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#1 Re: English Forum » HELP TAYGETANS MAKE MONEY SO THEY DON"T HAVE TO GO » 2023-10-28 19:39:48

Mizar wrote:
Gosia wrote:

Anyone SHOULD notice it as they are all different people, with different opinions sometimes, personalities, and preferences on what to focus on. If you did not notice that, then there would be something wrong. Even the same person changes within years. I hope I am not the same now than 6 years ago. In some ways, I hope I have evolved into something different. smile

Mizar wrote:

yes, i always remember the first Swaruu and his incredible life and beautiful conciousness ,  and his friend Anneka, But the message of this team, is not the same.    Anyone who in not blnded by fanatism would notice this

I see with sadness how things have changed, they have not changed for the better, that is what I can tell you,
   and I think that the first Sw would never have agreed with the message that you are transmitting now.

Please be honest and tell the truth, what happened?

While the first sw empowered and taught its people to fight and make bows, you call to create paypal accounts and continue consuming from the matrix,

Moderator's Note:

Hello Mizar,

You are free to think and believe whatever you want about Swaruu or Gosia or the other crew members or the information they are sharing. What you think and believe is none of our business. What IS my business as a moderator however is to make sure that members don't break the agreement they made with the forum when they clicked 'Agree' when they register. Forum rules --> https://forum.swaruu.org/viewtopic.php?pid=211#p211


So to make it more clear who this forum is for and who can enter and participate in the forum, I am going to express this in the form of a simple question:

Do you believe this project is a deception, fraud, AI, a cabal psyop etc or do you believe it was real and genuine in the past but it has been hijacked by the cabal now?


If your answer is:

1. "YES"  or  2. "I DON'T KNOW YET, BUT I AM LEANING MORE TOWARDS YES"

then I want to make it very clear that this forum is not for you and you need to leave. And you can still continue believing that, we are not asking you to change what you believe about this contact, and you can still watch the videos if you want, but you can't enter and participate in the forum, because this forum is NOT for all the viewers of the videos.

It is only for the viewers who's answer to this question is either:

3. "NO"  or  4. "I DON'T KNOW YET, BUT I AM LEANING MORE TOWARDS NO"  or  5. "I DON'T KNOW YET"


So please think about this question and decide what you answer is and if it is 1. or 2. then you can't enter and participate in the forum, you can still watch the videos but this forum exclusively for the viewers that their answer is 5. or 4. or 3.

You can still find another place that is for all the viewers of the videos and you can join there and have your discussions there. And also people that are in the 3-5 category and can enter the forum are free to join those other places too and have discussions with the people that beleve this is a fraud or a psyop or whatever. We are not interested in preventing you from having those discussions, we are only not interested in having those discussions here in this forum.

This is not a public space this is a private space so it is our right to decide who this forum is for and what the focus and topic of the forum is, similar to how it is our right to decide to ask what your age is and if your age is for example below 15, we can decide that you cannot enter and participate in the forum.


I hope this is clear and I hope you understand. Thank you.



Hola Mizar,

Eres libre de pensar y creer lo que quieras sobre Swaruu o Gosia o los demás miembros de la tripulación o la información que comparten. Lo que usted piensa y cree no es asunto nuestro. Sin embargo, mi tarea como moderador es asegurarme de que los miembros no rompan el acuerdo que hicieron con el foro cuando hicieron clic en "Aceptar" al registrarse. Reglas del foro --> https://forum.swaruu.org/viewtopic.php?pid=211#p211


Entonces para que quede más claro para quién es este foro y quién puede entrar y participar en el foro, voy a expresar esto en forma de una simple pregunta:

¿Crees que este proyecto es un engaño, fraude, inteligencia artificial, una operación psicológica de la cábala, etc. o crees que fue real y genuino en el pasado pero ahora ha sido secuestrado por la cábala?


Si tu respuesta es:

1. “SÍ” o 2. “AÚN NO LO SÉ, PERO ME ESTOY INCLINANDO MÁS HACIA EL SÍ”

Entonces quiero dejar muy claro que este foro no es para ti y debes irte. Y aún puedes seguir creyendo eso, no te estamos pidiendo que cambies lo que crees sobre este contacto, y aún puedes ver los videos si quieres, pero no puedes entrar y participar en el foro, porque este foro NO es para todos los espectadores de los videos.

Es sólo para los espectadores cuya respuesta a esta pregunta es:

3. “NO” o 4. “AÚN NO LO SÉ, PERO ME ESTOY INCLINANDO MÁS HACIA EL NO” o 5. “AÚN NO LO SÉ”


Entonces, piense en esta pregunta y decida cuál es su respuesta y si es 1. o 2. entonces no puede ingresar ni participar en el foro, aún puede ver los videos, pero este foro es exclusivo para los espectadores cuya respuesta es. 5. o 4. o 3.

Aún puedes encontrar otro lugar que sea para todos los espectadores de los videos y puedes unirte allí y tener tus discusiones allí. Y también las personas que están en la categoría 3-5 y pueden ingresar al foro son libres de unirse también a esos otros lugares y tener conversaciones con las personas que creen que esto es un fraude, una operación psicológica o lo que sea. No estamos interesados en impedir que usted tenga esas discusiones, simplemente no estamos interesados en tener esas discusiones aquí en este foro.

Este no es un espacio público, es un espacio privado, por lo que tenemos derecho a decidir para quién es este foro y cuál es el enfoque y tema del foro, de manera similar a como tenemos derecho a decidir preguntar cuál es su edad y Si su edad es, por ejemplo, inferior a 15 años, podemos decidir que no puede ingresar ni participar en el foro.


Espero que esto quede claro y espero que lo entiendas. Gracias.

#3 Re: English Forum » HELP TAYGETANS MAKE MONEY SO THEY DON"T HAVE TO GO » 2023-10-27 20:05:51

Mizar wrote:

... Anyone who in not blnded by fanatism would notice this

Moderator's note: You are implying here that we are blinded by fanaticism because we don't see things the same way you do.

You can disagree with what a member of the Toleka crew is sharing or what another member of the forum is sharing, but please do your best to keep the discussion about the content of the videos, or the content of the forum members' posts, and do your best to not make the discussion about the forum members themselves or about the crew members personally. In other words try to focus on discussing the message and not the messenger.

To avoid unnecessary personal conflicts and dramas and personal clashes, discussions about the messenger are allowed in the forum only if done in a genuinely respectful manner to the messenger, and I understand that is hard to do sometimes. If any of you want to freely have discussions about the messenger and not the message without any limitations, you can all still do that outside the forum. We are not trying to limit what you can discuss, we are only limiting what you can discuss HERE in our forum, outside the forum you can still discuss whatever you want with the other members of the forum. I hope you understand. Thank you.

#4 Re: English Forum » Meet Anna » 2023-10-27 01:30:47

TSD.9111 wrote:

... Since there are souls from the afterlife who were, say Arcturian, and tried to incarnate as a human. If you were to extract that fetus it would not evolve into an Arcturian i.e the Lyrian fetus (who by consciousness is an Arcturian) would finish its development into a Lyrian body that is used by a Arcturian star seed. This is just an example to try and understand how what you said may work out in some cases. ...

I am very curious too what happens when a non-Lyrian starseed gets extracted, maybe the Lyrian body will block those frequencies because they are not close vibrationally and they'll remain Lyrian or who knows maybe it'll lead to some form of a hybrid body but I doubt that's the case. But in the case of Lyrian races they all share the same Lyrian template including the terrestrial humans, so it is probably not that hard for one Lyrian body variant to transform into one of the other Lyrian body variants, but even then it makes sense that it would take a long period of time for that transformation to be completed, unless it is assisted by a medpod.

I am also curious about what happens after non-Lyrian starseeds wake up from their immersion, and especially if they are also from the more logical races, it must be much harder to integrate the memories of their life during their immersion with the memories of their "5D" lifetime.


TSD.9111 wrote:

... And to be clear, NONE of what I've said is based on judging or criticizing, I'm just talking about this story to learn more not disprove it or anything malicious. I suspect most everyone reading this feels this from me but saying for anyone new down the line smile

I think the majority of the people here are good at reading the intentions and the energy behind the language and can tell the difference. smile

#5 Re: English Forum » Meet Anna » 2023-10-26 22:48:24

TSD.9111 wrote:

Yes Ariya, I know and get all of what has been said. But its not adding up, not saying this to cast doubt on the veracity of what was shared, just in light of how the biology part was described and what we know here.
...

As we know for incarnations from an immersion pod the frequency of the mother and the fetus has to be adjusted to be compatible with the frequency of the incoming starseed. So that's why I think the DNA of the starseed does have a different template than the parents, even without a inpregnation from a Taygetan. And I think it ws mentioned in the transcript about the alien abductions that the grey gardeners are also "hired" from the higher planes too, to adjust the mother and the fetus and not only from the physical ETs.


Also Another point that it didn't occur to me to mention in my previous post is that the human DNA is suppressed Lyrian DNA, so after extraction the DNA will go back to it's original Lyrian form and not to Alfratan form, and the reason the Alfratans have two hemispheres is most likely because they maintain some ideas from the Earth collective unconscious.

And also I think what changes the DNA and the physiology is the gradual regaining of "5D" memories and ideas, and that's also why a Taygetan starseed would change to Taygetan DNA and an Alfratan starseed to an Alfratan DNA. So once the memories and ideas from your original collective unconscious come back to you the DNA will reflect that and then the physiology will change according to the DNA changes.


This is a very good video about DNA that comes to mind that I think is worth rewatching for more details on the DNA template issue:

DNA - Record of Who We Are - Extraterrestrial Perspective - Yazhi Swaruu

DNA - Registry of Who We Are - Questions from the Public - Yazhi Swaruu

#6 Re: English Forum » Meet Anna » 2023-10-26 22:03:31

TSD.9111 wrote:

Hey guys, since this video was released I've been thinking about it and trying to put things together but have gaps now.

Based on what we learned about Aneeka initially, she did not start out as a Taygetan in her first round of trying to incarnate on Earth.

...

Even after extraction from the Earth frequencies, your appearance and DNA and physiology changes (it takes up to 7 years naturally and about ~3 months in a medbed if I remember correctly). And we don't have much details about this, but my best guess is that if you are from a Lyrian based race your physiology and DNA will change back to your race frequency and not to an Alfratan physiology. The Alphratans have a different frequency that is a result of the Alfratan collective unconscious agreements and ideas.

So in this case Aneeka's frequency is Taygetan so her DNA and physiology will go back to the Taygetan DNA and physiology after extraction. So she is also a Taygetan by frequency, and the way I understand how someone can be called a Taygetan and have a Taygetan frequency if they incarnate from the afterlife, is that when Taygetans die they probably go to a Taygetan astral and they retain their Tay collective unconscious ideas and that's why they reincarnate back to Taygeta in their next life. And I vaguely remember it was mentioned that the Tays go to the same place when they die. So maybe the non-pod Taygetan starseeds make the plan to incarnate to Earth from the astral of Taygeta and so they still have the Taygetan frequency as their essence, and I think the Tays have technology that can read the soul frequency but I think they mentioned it is not accurate.


And I very vaguely remember being mentioned that Dhor Kalel was incarnated(or maybe it was a stepdown) in the family that Aneeka was going to be born and if she was not aborted she would have been his sister. But take this with a grain of sault cause I don't have time to go look for the transcript and I could be remembering this wrong.

And if the Tays have a way to read the soul frequency, I don't think that they have a record of the Taygetans starseed incarnated from the afterlife instead of from an immersion pod, so I also don't think they are tracking and monitoring those starseeds. So my theory is that the family that Aneeka was going to be born had Taygetan starseeds through immersion and they were closely monitoring them and that's how they ended up rescuing Aneeka's fetus. And maybe Aneeka's mother was a Taygetan starseed that they were monitoring closely and they were probably aware of the issues that led to the abortion.

#8 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-25 18:09:06

Scott Summers wrote:

(...)

Your awareness of global cultures is rare and stands in stark contrast to the bone-headed and self-aggrandising attitudes of other members (but pls note I say this in a non-judgmental way). wink

OK Scott if you are gonna be like this, then from now on I don't want you to talk to me or interact with me unless you do it in a genuinely respectful manner. I am not asking you to respect me, if you can't talk to me or about me how you would talk if you genuinely respected me, then at least simply ignore me and don't engage me for now, directly or indirectly as you did in this thread.

This is my boundary I am setting with you and if you don't respect it, then since I don't have an ability to block you only for myself, I will be reporting you to the other mod and complain that you are violating my boundaries and harassing me and then leave it to his discernment. And you can do the same if you want and set the same or a different boundary with me and communicate it to me, and then report me if I don't respect it and violate it.


And a good guideline for all of us, that can greatly help reduce unnecessary personal conflicts is, if you don't like another member or don't genuinely respect another member currently, then try to ignore them and not read their posts and avoid interacting with them as a short term solution and if you still read their posts and want to comment on one of their posts, then comment only on the content of their posts without making any personal reference to the poster, and without making comments about them personally. And if you can't let it go and you wanna have a discussion "about the messenger and not the message" then at least do it privately outside the forum. Discussions about the messenger and not the message are only allowed in the forum if they are done in a mutually respectful manner by all parties involved. And if you have something you wanna say to the mods then it's better to not do it publicly but say it privately using the report button or sending an email. This is a good guideline that if everyone follows it will reduce unnecessary personal conflicts and clashes and distractions in the forum. And if you see me not following this guideline myself you can call me out(but in a genuinely respectful manner of course haha).


MUTUAL RESPECT is one of the best guidelines and boundaries that if we all voluntarily agree to respect and do our best to follow, it can give us so much freedom to freely talk and discuss and disagree about almost anything without it leading to conflicts and dramas. There is always a way to express what we wanna say or our disagreement in a genuinely respectful manner both to the other members and to the people on board Toleka.

#9 Re: English Forum » New videos - Mari Swaruu » 2023-10-24 17:56:06

Yankee wrote:
Brahman wrote:

Light Beings, Demons, Part 4, Religion, Possessions and Star Seeds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r06ssH4LDU

At the end of the video Mari says that the demons' final plan is to control souls and use the planet. That's why the cabal use satanic rituals and symbols with the federation's permission. Is this the final plan of the federation as well?

My understanding is there is no final plan of the Federation here besides maintaining the Earth to be pretty much this way indefinitely, as a game of struggle, not meant to be pleasant or fair.

Overall I take the video as encouraging in what we can do to deal with demons and supposed psychological disorders. Whether we want the Earth to be such a game or not, the prospect of "beating" the game feels empowering to me, not by means of playing it the way most people do but by becoming a stronger soul who is more powerful than the demons and control mechanisms. Learning to navigate the astral more deliberately and effectively has always felt to me like a key part of that.

I'm disappointed that there is almost no discussion on this forum about Mari's astral series videos, which to me are among the most valuable videos that anyone on the team has published. They also get a fraction of the youtube views. I don't suppose there's somewhere else online that people are talking about them?

There are very few people participating in the forum so the posts in here don't get much engagement. There is also a telegram channel where some discussions are happening and there are a few more people participating in there. Although since it's a chat it's not the best platform for more in depth discussion but at least there are more people participating there and you get more engagement.

Cosmic Agency Telegram Channel link: https://t.me/cosmicagency

There is also a Cosmic Agency Telegram Chat for chatting more freely on any CA related topic (while the CA telegram channel is mostly for commenting on the posts that Gosia posts there): https://t.me/+GgsiWpMshyw1NDNk

#10 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-23 16:59:34

Horton HaW wrote:

So glad I know nothing of this IM drama. LoL. Jupiter 9 your new name should be Jupiter A. 9. smile

I have one vague guess about what that could mean but I am not sure. So I'll interpret it as Awesome, or maybe Amazing? or maybe Adorable? hmm lol smile But if I guessed right then Jupiter S. 9 would be more accurate. smile

#11 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-23 16:39:00

Scott Summers wrote:

Jupiter

When you use the words “flaws” or “dysfunction”, you cannot weasel your way out by saying “there is no judgement” or no implication that it is wrong or bad.

No reasonable person reading those words could come to your conclusion.

If you truly meant no judgement, the words “attributes” or “characteristics” would be used. These are neutral descriptions.

And this post of yours contradicts your earlier post.

I’ve made my point. No interest in arguing or dragging this out. I’ll let the members decide for themselves.

I think your image of me is not entirely accurate, and you are not seeing me as I really am. One of my strengths since I was a child is that I am very non-judgmental. There really is no judgement energy behind my post and those words, so I am not trying to weasel my way out of anything. lol

I don't think having flaws or dysfunctions is sth bad or wrong and that's why I don't hesitate to use those words. If Swaruu has flaws why would I not use that word to decribe her. There is nothing wrong with Swaruu or the Tays having flaws, they are biological people incarnated in the material realm, of course they will have flaws and traumas and dysfunctions.

If I saw Swaruu stealing, I would say that she stole because that is the truth, but you can state what you saw without there being judgement or rejection in that statement. Yes one person can say the exact same statement using the exact same words but load some judgement and rejection in them, but another person can say the same thing without charging the statement with any judgement or rejection and it's just a factual statement, similar to how you would say some truth to a close friend without rejecting or judging them.

But in your defense the majority of people on this planet mean it in a judgmental way when they use words like that, so it's understandable that you would assume I am doing the same.

Anyway, let's move on.

#12 Re: English Forum » Don’t do it!!! » 2023-10-23 02:09:56

I have made this joke before but when I go back I am thinking on going outside the immersion pod building with a cardboard sign and just like people outside abortion clinics here, try to make people to change their mind and warn them that coming here is a sin and Jesus doesn't want them to come to Earth. lol big_smile

#13 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-23 01:56:10

Scott Summers wrote:

Ok, everyone here commenting on how the Taygetans and Swaruunians should not have been people pleasing.

They should have been more “human”, like a Terrestrial Human.

Firstly, it’s a valid opinion from the perspective of each member.

Here’s another opinion: Such views reflect the lack of worldly experience of each member. And I mean experience on Earth.

How so?

Has anyone here been to Japan? Done business in Japan?

If the answer is yes, you would immediately understand that the Taygetans and Swaruunians are very similar in “people pleasing attributes” to the Japanese.

Is it any wonder that the Taygetans had a colony in Japan? Any wonder that the Japanese language sounds a little similar to Taygetan language?

So, when you single out the Taygetans for not speaking “directly” like a European, you actually reveal your lack of understanding of global cultures (let alone ET cultures). The same applies to South Korean culture too.

I don't see anyone else commenting about that in this thread so I assume you are referring to my post. And if that's the case then you misunderstood what I am saying in my post.

When I talk about a people pleasing issue or flaws and dysfunctions, there is no judgement in it or implying that it's wrong or bad to be people pleasing, I am just talking about the fact that the Tays have people pleasing issues.

And I am in no way implying that the Tays or Swas should not have been people pleasing, or should have been more like a Terrestrial human, I don't know how you understood that from what I am saying. They are ETs so they "should" be what they are, ExtraTerrestrials. Why should they be like Terrestrial Humans. Again I am just talking without judgement about the fact that ETs don't fully understand the Terrestrials and the Terrestrials don't fully understand the ETs. I am not implying that the ETs should be more like Ts or the Ts should be more like ETs. 

If you reread my post you'll see that you assumed that I am doing what you say or that I am singling out the Tays. I love this crew and the Taygetans and the Swaruunians more than any of the other people in my life, so why would I judge them or patronize them or whatever? I don't know how I come off in the post but you have misunderstood me, I am adorable haha. lol smile

In case you weren't referring to my post just ignore this, smile but there is noone else talking about what you are referring to so who else could you be talking about.

#14 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-23 00:44:51

Ariya wrote:

Did Swaruu of Erra 'go along this misconception?' I don't believe she did.

Jupiter 9 wrote:

...
So I do understand that the ETs have a difficulty understanding our strange Terrestrial mentality and behavior, but I am still a bit surprised that even Swaruu of Erra went along with this misconception or even added to the misconception when she talked about the men-women ratio. Because even though she was still a Taygetan, Swaruu was not an average Taygetan and was a bit more expanded and had a Swaruunian side too. I guess one way to look at it is that she was half Taygetan half Swaruunian, so she had qualities from both and so she also had that heavily people pleasing issue and other "flaws" and dysfunctions. And also I probably mostly saw her more expanded side and overlooked her more physical human flawed side.
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This is what she said about the Taygetan population ratio:

Gosia: Ok. I understand you are mostly women?



Swaruu (9): Our population is roughly 75% female, yes!



Gosia: Why is it mostly women? What happened to Ying and Yang?


Swaruu (9): We don't know the answer ourselves. There are many theories. It's more of a 50/50 when you look at it from a reproduction-only point of view as most women that are "in excess" are very old and not interested in having a mate.


https://swaruu.org/transcripts/1-extrat … who-are-we

Swaruu of Erra is clearly making an estimation here (she says ‘roughly’.) She also talks about at reproduction level it’s a 50/50 ratio. She later goes on to talk about there being a slight increase in the amount of females because of parthenogenesis and increase in natural life span of females.

Mari in the recent video, makes an estimation and arrives at most 60% female population. She says: “…there are slightly more women than men in the total population but not more than 10% at the most…”

These are both quite clearly estimations.  And not that different…. especially as Mari is referring in her video to the misinformation that there were 10 times more women than men.  She also said in her video that these misconceptions came about ‘before the Taygetans and Swaruu of Erra started talking to Robert and Gosia.’

I believe that Swaruu of Erra was diplomatic and had a gentle way of describing things. And undoubtedly there were times when she may have been very keen to help and please us humans. But in my opinion, this is not about her 'flaws and dysfunctions.'  Swaruu was not responsible for the disinformation that MED was peddling around.

That's not what I was trying to say. I am not saying or implying that Swaruu went along with the nonsense terrestrial mentality misconceptions and distortions that MED was spreading. I didn't even know about what MED was peddling about Taygetan men until I watched Mari's video, I have never wathed MED's stuff. What I am referring to is what Mari said in the middle of the video:

Mari: (...) and then as everything that Zadkiel had said was already in the air, my predecessors probably chose not to contradict him, making things even worse, again expressing their heavily people pleasing Taygetan qualities. I am no one to judge them but this was simply wrong, although I accept that I do not know all the circumstances around the reason why they may have chosen to perpetuate these misconceptions. (...)

And that's why because of what Swaruu had shared in the transcript that you linked, the way I understood it is that when Mari said this in the video, she was also referring to what was shared by Swaruu in that transcript. So how I interpreted is that Swaruu also probably chose not to contradict him and may have chosen to perpetuate these misconceptions by what she shared about the men-women situation. Maybe Mari was only referring to what was shared with MED but if you read the transcript you will see why I would think that she was also referring to what Swaruu said in the first video.

So that's why I say that even Swaruu "went along with this misconception or even added to the misconception when she talked about the men-women ratio", because as I said I have never watched the older french lady and didn't know about all the nonsense that she was spreading about men in Taygeta, but I did have some misconceptions about the male-female ratio situation in Taygeta from reading what Swaruu said in that transcript. And of course I didn't have the nonsense misconceptions that the interstellar mediator was spreading, but up until Mari's video I did have a misunderstanding that there is roughly a ~25% excess of women in Taygeta and that it's only balanced on the romantic couples level because the excess women had transcended romantic love and were not interested in romantic relationships. And it's mostly the rest of what Swaruu said in that transcript that combined with the 75-25 ratio, contributed to some of my misunderstanding on this.


Gosia: To be clear: old but still in a 20 year-old body, yes?

Swaruu (9): Some older women in a 20 year-old body and others in older looking bodies, it all depends on what they want to look like. The reason why most babies are female is also coming from the spirit side, so cloning doesn't work. Because there is no one to inhabit a male body if most souls are interested in being female. Everything here is for women (nearly everything). It's easier to have a project as a woman because you are more respected in a professional manner.

This shouldn't be I know, but it's how it is. A woman is very respected in science and art circles and men not so much so, because Taygetan men are mostly interested in love and relationships, romance, and sports-entertainment, and rarely in science and politics. As an example. So even if there are many more women here, most are not interested in men, when the men nearly all are interested in women. So it's balanced.

#15 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-22 17:30:58

It's obvious with the Billy Meier contact or the contact with the older french lady or the attempted contact with Alfred Weber or even the recent contact with the PK girls, and even the way the First Contact project was done, that the Taygetans don't fully understand the terrestrial humans. And if it was only the Taygetans then that wouldn't be that big of an issue, but what makes the ExtraTerrestrials and Terrestrials relationship and interaction even more of a mess, is that the rest of the ETs and the "5D Federation" don't understand the humans and life on Earth very well too. And it's understandable because everything is very very strange here and is very different than their ET societies and culture and mentality. As I have said before this planet is similar to Cyndriel and it's a very strange and exotic place but the "negative" disharmonious chaotic "crazy" version. lol

And that is why the Starseeds have a very important role to play in this relationship and interaction between Ts and ETs. We chose to incarnate and be born and grow up in the terrestrial matrix and be one of them, to understand from first hand experience what it is like to be a terrestrial human, with a terrestrial ego and a terrestrial mentality.

But in order to be a terrestrial human we needed to veil our ET experiences, and because of that just like the ET's don't understand very well the Ts, the terrestrial starseeds don't understand very well the ETs. And that's why the Swaruunians have a very important role to play in this too, because they understand well both the Terrestrials and the ExtraTerrestrials. And they are invaluable guide both for the ETs that don't understand very well the Terrestrial life and reality, and for the starseeds that don't understand very well the ETs and the ET life and reality. And they play a key catalytic role in helping both the ETs and the Starseeds on the ground to bridge and reunite the ET and Terrestrial worlds.


So I do understand that the ETs have a difficulty understanding our strange Terrestrial mentality and behavior, but I am still a bit surprised that even Swaruu of Erra went along with this misconception or even added to the misconception when she talked about the men-women ratio. Because even though she was still a Taygetan, Swaruu was not an average Taygetan and was a bit more expanded and had a Swaruunian side too. I guess one way to look at it is that she was half Taygetan half Swaruunian, so she had qualities from both and so she also had that heavily people pleasing issue and other "flaws" and dysfunctions. And also I probably mostly saw her more expanded side and overlooked her more physical human flawed side.

Anyway I am glad Mari and the rest of the Swaruunians are clearing any misconceptions and mistakes in what was shared previously. smile

#16 Re: English Forum » No Men in Taygeta? (Mari Swa) » 2023-10-22 15:24:28

Ferndog5D wrote:

I remember watching the Galactic Messages on GAIA , Who are the Taygetans?  I believe the roles of the males were down played  because males were not as interested in politics and traveling around the galaxy. Also here your website banner is 80% female which farther pushes the point of female domination in your society.  QUESTION   Does the sex of a newborn Taygetan get mutually decided before birth?

I think the sex of the baby is decided by the soul/katra so I don't think that the Taygetan parents are involved in choosing the sex of the child. But what is probably happening is that the souls/katras of the parents preplan the sex of their children when they are on the other side where they make their lifeplan, and the katra of the child preplans the sex of the body and everything else in their lifeplan, and then reads all the lifeplans of the available parents and then makes contracts/agreements with the katras of parents and other family members that are compatible with it's lifeplan.

So the way I understand it so far, I would say that everything is always mutually decided through soul contracts/agreements between everyone involved, but in the afterlife level and not on the physical. And I think for Taygetans this is not just intellectual knowledge or a theory but they understand how soulplans and reincarnation works so I think they know that whatever the gender of the child is, it's not an accident and it's all part of prebirth katra contracts/agreements. And that's why I think that they would also not be genetically changing the sex of the child by altering the DNA of the fertilized egg, because that would be interfering with the intention and plans of the involved souls in the afterlife/in-between-life.   


And as a sidenote I am not sure about this but I assume that the Taygetans too besides remembering about 3 past lifetimes at about 13 years old, they also have memories of the inbetween life, like the Swaruunians do. Or maybe they remember some things from the in the in between life but their contracts and lifeplans are veiled because knowing too much of the lifeplan would ruin the experience.

#17 Re: English Forum » False History, Space & Earth, Tartaria, Cabal, Lies & the GF - Mari S. » 2023-10-22 14:38:26

I can see the similarities but it's different than James' voice so I don't think this is James. smile

#18 Re: English Forum » Meet Anna » 2023-10-19 20:04:20

Meridianwoman wrote:

When I had the opportunity to meet with like-minded people in October, we discussed the same thing.
The conclusion we came up with, was that the soul of Aneeka was extracted from the unborn baby, and was put into a Taygetan baby.  And perhaps that baby was made.  The Taygetans are skilled geneticists.

Aneeka was very tall, so she probably was not human but Taygetan.

I found the transcript where Aneeka mentioned that and added it in my previous post. So as Aneeka explains it was not a soul extraction but the aborted fetus didn't die and the Taygetans extracted it and put it in a medical pod where it finished it's development. smile

#19 Re: English Forum » HELP TAYGETANS MAKE MONEY SO THEY DON"T HAVE TO GO » 2023-10-19 18:59:22

Meridianwoman wrote:

Jupiter wrote:
"Mari has added a donation link in the description of her latest Spanish video so it seems Mari will be taking donations like Gosia too. I guess this is one way the Swaruunians can generate some extra money besides the YouTube ad revenue. If it weren't for the above context, I would be confused about why would they really need the money, but with the above explanation it all fits and makes sense, so I personally don't really see an issue with Mari adding a donation link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6AtB-wE1AU"
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This is wonderful!  Thank you Jupiter for finding the link in Mari's Spanish channel make donations!

"Donaciones en Pesos Mexicanos".  Do you know if how if there is a way to send a donation with another currency besides Mexican Pesos?  I  tried to navigate to find 'type of currency' but don't understand enough Spanish. 
https://link.mercadopago.com.mx/swaruuoficial

Sorry, I don't speak spanish to and I don't know this service, it seems it's only available in Latin American countries. I think it's better to wait for more info about this, maybe Mari will comment on this or maybe Gosia will make a post about it. smile

#20 Re: English Forum » Meet Anna » 2023-10-19 18:35:57

So now we know who the second human on board is. And what makes this even more fascinating is that Aneeka also tried to enter Earth as a starseed but her mother had an abortion and if I remember correctly that was in Mexico too. So it turns out her soul tried again and did have an incarnation on Earth, or maybe her soul already knew she was going to be aborted and her fetus taken to Taygeta, so she incarnated twice and the abortion and rescue of the fetus by the Tays was part of the soul plan. It makes you wonder what kind of complex soul plans and soul journeys are each of us part of.

I am also very curious to hear some of Anna's experiences onboard after extraction. Suriko's extraction is one of my favorite videos, that description was so vivid in my imagination that it was like I was there watching them on the Suzy and on the Viera. Although I guess that might be like torture to hear for all the people that want to be extracted, so maybe that's not such a good idea lol. smile

Aneeka: (...) In my particular case, it is not that I did not meet the requirements, I entered momentarily, but the circumstances within my short incarnation pushed me to leave early, as I see it. I was aborted at 3 months of gestation. Already very large and formed.

I have strange memories of that, feeling inside a hot water bottle, feelings or concepts of rejection. Of great sadness. Of despair. I did not die there since I was extracted as what would be called an abduction of my race. As a baby not fully formed or only 33% formed, I finished my development in a Medical Pod in Temmer. But already entirely with other genetics, in my DNA too, fully activated as a Taygetean. That is, I am not human, I have 24 chromosomes.

I viewed it as a failed attempt to enter the Earth as a starseed. But today Yázhi explains to me that what I lived was the necessary experience for me. That is why I am here today. Because I care about you, because I have an affinity, and I know I could very well have been on your side. I was about to be a Mexican woman, born in CDMX, I would be about 47 years old today.

Quote from: Pleyades - Taygeta - Questions from the Public for Anéeka of Temmer

#21 Re: English Forum » HELP TAYGETANS MAKE MONEY SO THEY DON"T HAVE TO GO » 2023-10-19 15:40:19

Jupiter 9 wrote:

What I don't fully understand is why would they heavily depend on resources they must get from Earth, since it's very easy for the resupply ship to jump back and forth between Taygeta and Earth. And I think a potential explanation for this is what Mari says at 9:58

(...) Most extraterrestrial groups and races do not need anything from Earth, others need only a few things such as resources they take directly or whatever, and others who are more invested in understanding humans and their culture need a lot from Earth and that is the case of my group and I.

We need food, resources and so on and we must pay for them and that does not make us any less extraterrestrial and it is proof of nothing else other than proof that we need money as you do, and as I said above we come from a moneyless Society but we are not there now we are here, so we depend on Earth and all its stuff including your grocery stores. (...)

So most ETs don't really need anything from Earth and don't depend on Earth or only need very few things, and this potential explanation of why the Toleka is more dependent on resources from Earth actually would make sense. And maybe they also want to understand humans and our culture using the original things and resources from Earth and not replicated ones.


And I'm sure they'll figure it out on their own. If someone is doing well financially and wants to support the Team, it's better in my opinion to support Gosia and Robert, the sky crew are supersmart and wise advanced interstellar ETs with advanced AI, they can easily find an ethical way to generate the money. Worst case scenario, one or more of them could come as a step down and get a high paying job to generate the money. Problem solved. lol smile If and when they decide to leave, it will definitely not be because of as a simple thing as the federation cutting the financial support. That would be a bit comical knowing the Toleka crew and their history, especially the Swaruus. smile

And I think the main reason Mari mentioned this, is to point out that the Federation is treating them like this because they are disobedient, and she even mentions that they are going to become even more resilient and continue to be here in spite of the lack of Federation support, so they will generate the money on their own and they aren't going anywhere. But I am sure they will appreciate the offer and willingness of support and assistance. <3 smile

(...) We know that the Galactic Federation removed all their support because we are quite disobedient as a group, at least in part, because we are so over-communicative through these YouTube channels.

We prefer to become even more resilient and continue to be here seeding information and taking care of our starseeds, even in spite of our lack of Galactic Federation support. This is something that all of you must understand about what is going on with me and my group. (...)

Mari has added a donation link in the description of her latest Spanish video so it seems Mari will be taking donations like Gosia too. I guess this is one way the Swaruunians can generate some extra money besides the YouTube ad revenue. If it weren't for the above context, I would be confused about why would they really need the money, but with the above explanation it all fits and makes sense, so I personally don't really see an issue with Mari adding a donation link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6AtB-wE1AU

#22 Re: English Forum » HELP TAYGETANS MAKE MONEY SO THEY DON"T HAVE TO GO » 2023-10-18 21:27:10

What I don't fully understand is why would they heavily depend on resources they must get from Earth, since it's very easy for the resupply ship to jump back and forth between Taygeta and Earth. And I think a potential explanation for this is what Mari says at 9:58

(...) Most extraterrestrial groups and races do not need anything from Earth, others need only a few things such as resources they take directly or whatever, and others who are more invested in understanding humans and their culture need a lot from Earth and that is the case of my group and I.

We need food, resources and so on and we must pay for them and that does not make us any less extraterrestrial and it is proof of nothing else other than proof that we need money as you do, and as I said above we come from a moneyless Society but we are not there now we are here, so we depend on Earth and all its stuff including your grocery stores. (...)

So most ETs don't really need anything from Earth and don't depend on Earth or only need very few things, and this potential explanation of why the Toleka is more dependent on resources from Earth actually would make sense. And maybe they also want to understand humans and our culture using the original things and resources from Earth and not replicated ones.


And I'm sure they'll figure it out on their own. If someone is doing well financially and wants to support the Team, it's better in my opinion to support Gosia and Robert, the sky crew are supersmart and wise advanced interstellar ETs with advanced AI, they can easily find an ethical way to generate the money. Worst case scenario, one or more of them could come as a step down and get a high paying job to generate the money. Problem solved. lol smile If and when they decide to leave, it will definitely not be because of as a simple thing as the federation cutting the financial support. That would be a bit comical knowing the Toleka crew and their history, especially the Swaruus. smile

And I think the main reason Mari mentioned this, is to point out that the Federation is treating them like this because they are disobedient, and she even mentions that they are going to become even more resilient and continue to be here in spite of the lack of Federation support, so they will generate the money on their own and they aren't going anywhere. But I am sure they will appreciate the offer and willingness of support and assistance. <3 smile

(...) We know that the Galactic Federation removed all their support because we are quite disobedient as a group, at least in part, because we are so over-communicative through these YouTube channels.

We prefer to become even more resilient and continue to be here seeding information and taking care of our starseeds, even in spite of our lack of Galactic Federation support. This is something that all of you must understand about what is going on with me and my group. (...)

#23 Re: English Forum » THE LIGHT SYSTEM - THE PYRAMID CODE PART 2/ MORE DISCUSSIONS ON EXIT » 2023-10-14 16:02:55

And one last thing that came to mind is if things escalate to that degree then why not exit through "die fighting" instead of exit through suicide. That's an exit too. I personally don't think that it will come to that for us that are aware and awake, but even in the worst case scenario where it comes to that, then I prefer to exit fighting till my last breath and try to outsmart them and still win even in the last minute and exit them from the planet instead of me exiting the planet. Even in the worst case scenario they can only break my body but they can't touch me because I am not in my body and my memories and identity and ego is not in my body, the body cells are just antennas to my memories and identity and the ego that is in the ether. And nothing outside my body can touch and harm me, it can only trick me into using my own power of my mind to harm myself.

And one thing that is always extremely empowering for me, is thinking in terms of multiple lifetimes instead of just a single lifetime. And when I think of this fight in terms of more than one lifetime, then the death of this body is not the end of this consciousness "war" if I am not finished, and I can walk in another body with my memories intact and continue the fight where I left of or hop into a spaceship and come continue the fight from orbit with all the fighting experience of this lifetime. The Swaruus are a great example of that, the cabal did burn them at the stake or ambush them and kill them many times throughout history, but they are still here and a pain in the butt for the regressive forces. If you think about it this way you can see that it is not that easy to get rid of us, and if they take us out physically doesn't mean that they won and have gotten rid of us. That's why as Yazhi once said the cabal gets defeated in all timelines and it's more about the amount of pain and suffering humanity will endure before defeating them.


Yazhi: "But... we all die any way! It's not about dying or not, but about dying well, with a meaning. I'm a lioness, I´d rather die fighting than being submissive."

Yazhi: "They can stab me, make me explode, burn me alive, whatever. But I'm still here and I'm not broken!"

This is another great video to re-watch in times of crisis: Yazhi Swaruu and Gosia - JOAN MANIFESTO - Message for the Starseeds in the Times of Crisis

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#24 Re: English Forum » THE LIGHT SYSTEM - THE PYRAMID CODE PART 2/ MORE DISCUSSIONS ON EXIT » 2023-10-14 15:34:33

There is a video with Swaruu's perspective on suicide where she makes some points and one of the points that the Swaruunians have made a few times is that exiting through suicide may cause you to want to re-incarnate and redo this until you beat the game.

Suicide - Why it is NOT a Good Idea - Swaruu (Extraterrestrial Contact - Pleiades - Taygeta)


I only once very briefly had a thought of exiting through suicide in 2020, when I found myself in a complete deadend and was being pushed to my limits on all fronts. But I only entertained that idea very briefly for only a few minutes so I can't say that is enough to be able to really get in the shoes of the people who struggle with suicidal thoughts, so since I can't speak from experience I will recommend instead to watch this video from Teal who does have personal experience with suicide attempts. I think this is a good video to re-watch every time you are at that point "on the edge of the cliff" where you are seriously re-thinking about using suicide to exit this hellhole, and it has some very practical advice for when you are feeling suicidal.

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What To Do if you are Suicidal - Teal Swan

#25 Re: English Forum » Mari Swaruu’s Community Announcement - Stop Drinking Alcohol » 2023-10-12 15:46:31

mes333 wrote:

(...) @Pymander I agree coffee, green tea and chocolate with caffeine is a whole other tricky problem. Perhaps Mari will tell us more about caffeine and it’s issues too?

Yazhi talked about coffee and caffeine in this video:

(A public service announcement: smile Don't watch the video if you don't plan on stopping drinking coffee or at least switching to decaf: Teal Swan: Don't Do Shadow Work if You Don't Plan on Actually Making Changes)


Nutrition and Diet - Chatting with Swaruu, Aneeka, and Yazhi about Food

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