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#26 2021-01-05 14:52:24

mitkobs
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Re: Our Alcyone dilemma

Deep dawn is fear. There is difference between the emotion and the energy of fear. Energy of fear is vibration/frequency and is including huge variety of dense frequencies(slow vibrations). The energy of fear is state of consciousness, state of mind, it is also a belief ideology system. And all fear is self blinding/limiting illusion.

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#27 2021-01-05 23:25:49

Robert369
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Re: Our Alcyone dilemma

I just received an inofficial information that the 5D Fed acknowledged the holographic society on Earth and that Urmah now are in orbit. This implies no more ruling through secret societies and the 5D Fed. An English announcement will come at a later time, so let's hope this is true.

Any chance to get this confirmed by Yazhi/Swaruu or Aneeka ?


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#28 2021-01-06 01:25:41

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Just as general information:

Robert made a Spanish live video with Aneeka about this topic again, and Gosia made a very short comment on "YouTube community", see https://www.youtube.com/post/UgyWzNNXbX4fHHQ0I4J4AaABCQ

In parallel and perfectly well timed - one may wonder how she knows such perfect timing...-, this "Elena" made a "live Q&A" to debunk all of these ongoings, claiming the following as per her follower Luk (who is banned here) on Discord:

Elena just said:
1. There is no Alcyone Council
2. What comes from Alcyone is corrupted and bad
3. They are allied with Orion Empire
4. Do not listen to anything coming from there
5. They are not part of GFW

Besides "GFW" being funny, all of the above is nonsense because many other personal contacts confirm that Gosia's information is correct. For completeness: They claim to be "real Taygetans" and that Swaruu is not known to them and hence doesn't exist.

So it is assumable that Elena is abused through her implant as a counter measure against Swaruu and the Alcyone council, something that any technologically advanced race like Andromedans, etc. or even an AI can easily do. And she possibly doesn't even know it...

The good news is that things are going forward, and now we wait for an English version of the details, or maybe a transcript of the Spanish Q&A that can be translated.


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#29 2021-01-06 08:44:34

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Re: Our Alcyone dilemma

Yesterday Robert made a (Spanish) Q&A with Aneeka about this topic, and someone provided me with an English translated transcript that some "Taygetan activist" made.


Transcribed by an anonymous person of Sociedad Taygeta
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1212334 … oup_header
English translation by SpaceMonkey of Taygetean Disclosure - English Transcripts
https://www.facebook.com/groups/325586172179485


Post from fb group:

THE GALACTIC FEDERATION – REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNCIL OF ALCYONE – TAYGETEAN
REVELACIÓN CÓSMICA SEMILLAS ESTELARES

Jan 2, 2021
Video URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTaCPbGcLO4

In this direct from Robert we have extracted all the information about the rescue plan for planet Earth, excluding greetings and questions from the participants.

Anéeka of Temmer Speaks

More pressure towards them for tomorrow that they will receive us and have to receive us. Because like it or not we represent all the Pleiades. Because it is possible, only possible, that the information or news reaches them that you have already published and it is already on human networks. Humans see it as utopian, impossible, dreamy, fictional. They are programmed to feel like this, think like this, but from here things look different. Below, the situation looks chaotic and it is, but from here we see everything from a bird's eye view, and we understand what humans do not see, not even the most advanced conspirators.

Civilization on Earth is very fragile at all levels. Not only at the population level. What the average human population experiences as a civilization, if not the power structure that controls the human civilization that the public experiences, this power structure is even more fragile. It hangs on a wire. And it's why they want to wipe out the human population before they understand who is controlling and exploiting them.

So they are in an emergency situation. Yes, apparently and from relative points of view or from the point of view relative to the human population they have a lot of power. From here we see them terrified and in emergency losing their power. Yes, yes, losing their power. If Trump and team are seen fighting a monster from deep state secret societies. It is that Trump and company are even weaker than the Cabal. At this moment everything falls apart at all levels. They have theirs and that's enough and that's fine. But they don't have much power. That is why Trump has not achieved much of what he proposes or what is expected of him.

The president of the United States is not a Stalin dictator. Take away the MSM and everything falls apart. MSM Main Stream Media. They control the MSM because they control the finances. Those are two keys. Keys that our computers can hack in minutes if we are allowed to. The Federation will say that although the plan is good and it is good that we have it, they do not have, at that level with which we will speak, the authority to authorize a plan of that nature. So they will say. It is not a vote. It is an option. Not as a vote, I vote, I have no translation. The Federation of the quadrant above according to them.

Because the ones we will talk to are the Federation that overlooks this Solar System so we will take them as incompetent. And Alcyone will declare them incompetent, as a danger to the region, since they are not able to see to the safety of the population of the races within their jurisdiction. The Council of Alcione was already on the alert. The support was unanimous from the beginning. The time went to discuss how it would be done and the legal implications, all about jurisdictions. Each of the extras has its conditions. Urmah will coordinate directly with Taygeta to provide security support.

The Lyrians will only provide support with the legality. The Karistus wish to be the main mentors for humanity once the holographic society is implemented, since they are (close to) the place where the Earth is, and historically it belongs to them. All M45 works through us here. For example, the Engan could provide security support but they will not because the Urmah already do. This is not a shooting war. It is a war of minds and technology, manipulation and infiltration. No one (else) from M45 is here, just us.

A ship representing the Council of Alcione. As we have told them, we do not need help. We need to stop this nonsense and let us work with complete freedom or it doesn't work. They will be able to supervise for their peace of mind that we follow the rules and everything is within the framework of the law. But up there. Even things that seem wrong at first must be allowed because later it will trigger a desired result.

With an illogical race we cannot always be seen with innocent movements or we would never end up anywhere. In other words, the plan does need strong invasive actions but under cover where warranted, where we would use overwhelming force, but it will mostly be infiltration and remote manipulation. On a mission of crushing force it is almost impossible not to be seen. Trump does not control the entire air force.

Robert Because here of course, what I said to Anéeka is, well, when would this be done, before Trump becomes president, after, when? And she tells me, no, that's too soon. Our plan does not need one or the other to be in the White House. But we prefer Trump to be there.

THE PLAN

Anéeka It is proof that the problems of the Earth can be solved. Since they don't do anything because they obviously don't know how, someone has to take responsibility. And we take a step forward. We can solve the problem but we need the Federation to leave and let us work freely.

Robert Implement a holographic society? It can be done, yes.

Anéeka Yes. In the distant probability that they will let us carry out our plan, we can, because everything is already structured in detail. It is not silly. The entire plan is structured. But we know how to do it. From the economic aspect to the nutritional one, and the energy one and the medical one. Everything is already resolved and with such clarity that we are not proposing a utopian holographic society for 200 years from now as many say. We are saying that in 1 year everything is different. In just 1 year. And by 2025 it is already implemented. In 1 year according to Yázhi.

Robert Look at how the world is in less than 1 year. This can be reversed in a positive way. Wow.

Anéeka Exactly. It's what we say. It is that the control mechanisms of the regressives of the Cabal can be used for good. We use everything that is already there. We can and we see how. Already as done. We can put out free zero point energy for 100% of the population in less than 1 year without violating the Prime Directive - because all that technology for humans will be from declassified documents.
How do you see electric airplanes, electric cars without batteries rather than backup, that they never run out of electricity, no electricity cables, zero point spotlights for everyone for free, spotlights that you just turn on and that's it, and the power never runs out, electric appliances, heaters, stoves, industrial machinery, all electric magnetic point zero, clean and without consumption limit. We can. It is not utopia, we have that technology and how to implement it on Earth.

Robert Yes, everything. And the ecosystem would be saved. If it isn’t a problem for that.

Anéeka This ship can, let's not say Taygeta, this ship can do it, it's not complicated, because we don't use infrastructure that is difficult to put up. We do not need cable networks or super power stations, they only have to remove the cables from the streets because they will no longer work. You just have to put the reactors at specific points on Earth and give people the spotlights and zero point devices. We can replicate those spotlights and zero point devices, and we can replicate replicator devices to put in clean industries controlled by our people. All with human hands, leaving the credit to humans.

Robert And what materials do you need to replicate that?

Anéeka Robert, the material is created at the time of printing. Remember that we can create matter from zero point energy.

Robert Wow, my gosh, it's true. Matter comes out of energy, right? It's like creating objects in the Matrix from scratch.

Anéeka Yes, and we can even say how. But in essence it has already been published for more than 4 years.

Robert That is clean energy, yes.

Anéeka The Earth will heal ecosystems. People will have good food, life expectancy, education, no one has to die.

Robert It will make a big change if all of that is done. And everyone can benefit from this Earth.

Anéeka The question here is that you can. That they do not leave us for bureaucracy that is what exposes them as inept, and therefore regressive. But the concept that they are up there plotting to upset humans is not true. If the Federation cannot, it may be because it is too big. Let a small group of Taygetans do what they do best.

Officially this is my project. Alenym supports me in the legal and official matters, Yázhi in the technical, like the rest of the 27 remaining here, each one with their expertise. What happens is that it comes to the Federation as a strong proposal from a group of great influence in the area that is M45. It would come to the Federation in the name of all Pleiadians. That means that the proposal has more rank, more force and they look very bad if they do not see it immediately. Someone has to say that it can be done. All of this can be done. People are very sensitive and receptive now about the "bug". It is time to use that to our advantage.

One of the keys is to fully control the mass media. With that you control the Matrix, you decide who has power and who doesn't. With that you move people en masse in the direction you want. That is why it can be done. And we know it thanks to the "bug". Because we saw it and studied it as a media phenomenon since it came out, then we can solve the problem. Because we have a point of view-detail of the problem that the other races do not have because we are are with our hands full of Earth matters. That is why I am the front of this proposal.

Why can't it be Yázhi? For two reasons. 1. She is not Taygetean. 2. She is a minor. Because I am Taygetean. Because I am of legal age. Because I have control and knowledge of how human civilization and its problems work in detail. Because I have knowledge of medicine, technology and psychology among other things. Each politician is only a puppet for his group.

So the official politicians respond to the planetary deep state and these to the Illuminati, the Cabal. But the Illuminati and the Cabal are also puppets of something further. As we have already said, that which is further back is the Federation. So if we took on the role of the Federation, even the Illuminati would become our puppets, and people with different perceptions and other messages in the media would no longer feed regressive tulpas.

The media would expose the regressives and they would be arrested, because they would no longer control the people. We control them ourselves. The Cabal only have power because people give it to them. Without people feeding them, they will collapse very quickly, and this time, there will be mass arrests of regressives. As you will see, we already thought about it. In 1 year we can turn everything towards the positive. In less than 5, it's all holographic there.


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#30 2021-01-06 10:03:45

mitkobs
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Totally possible if it is well thought from every angle and how to incapacitate fast the hidden people and non people of power who will oppose that with all they got.

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#31 2021-01-07 00:20:18

Stan
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Re: Our Alcyone dilemma

Another translation from the Facebook group:

THE GALACTIC FEDERATION - COUNCIL OF ALCYONE - TAYGETA -URMAH - ANÉEKA
REVELACIÓN CÓSMICA SEMILLAS ESTELARES

Jan 5, 2021
Video URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hl8tDBTw8I

From this direct from Robert we have extracted the summary he makes regarding the meeting that the Alcione Council had with the Federation of Planets on January 3, 2021.

START OF THE VIDEO

Robert How are you guys? Welcome once again to this channel which is loved by so many! Today's topic is about the Federation meeting that was held, if I remember correctly, on January 3rd. I have made a summary of the conversation.

Anéeka tells us here:

Yesterday, the 3rd, we went to the Andromedan biosphere ship for Council with the Federation, Alenym, Kara, Zoea, Alia and myself. We were there for about 10 hours with interruptions and breaks.

We are not accusing any race or any person of being regressive. But the end result is regressive, whether they like it or not. But we from Taygeta have to be diplomatic. We began by exposing the problem that the Federation does not work here, that the system is broken, and with this they spent about two hours talking to them so that they would understand why.

Because each of them present there say they feel equally frustrated with the situation on Earth, and seeing that they cannot do or help more, according to them. That is true, no one there will react. As they are indifferent. But they deal with things their way. Again they do not deny that the majority there come from patriarchal societies. We did feel a certain kind of patronization towards us. To take us as us, what are we going to know.

Yes, at least they admitted that they don't do much, and that more should be done. Then comes Rurh, Urmah, with his retinue of eight guards, just three of us. And as soon as he sat down, the Federation people all softened. The change in tone of voice was clear. They kindly listened to our plan.

They said that there were such plans everywhere, and that many races had already passed such plans to them. And again we explain to them that we do understand the problem better than anyone else, because we are closer to the problem and to the people than anyone else. And they seem to reject those other plans as unviable or implausible, or simply illegal.

They accepted our proposal, but with a lot of conditions and restrictions that we do not see as acceptable or viable. And all under the condition that it is accepted from the next step up of the Federation. (With that we already started badly).

Robert And here we are going to comment on more things.

This is Anéeka:

First point: And this includes you. We can no longer say that we know what will be done comes from us. Because that, according to them, violates the Prime Directive, and goes against what we ourselves are saying, that humans should be the ones to do the work. And the credit must go one hundred percent to the humans without the Taygetans being the saviors again. In itself, that was never our intention. Just doing something, not standing idly by.

So, the problem is that we here have already been putting this plan all over the internet, but that was not a bad thing here, because the Federation recognizes that this put enormous pressure on them so that they had to listen to us in an emergency meeting. I mean, just two days after Alcyone's meeting. But we cannot be giving progress or activity reports to the public.

Another thing. They here, the Federation, hide behind having said yes, but we feel that it is again the hot potato thing. They tell us yes here to shut us up, and so that can look like they are positive, but they pass the responsibility of the legality to the top, as always and as we expected.
We have not accepted the conditions. We say that accepting these conditions collapses our plan.

So what is the situation? In which approval will be passed to the top, as we expected. But still we indicate that this is time sensitive. It was approved but with a lot of opposition, contrary to Alcyone. But it is that there was no opposition of races in general, only a few, but of people who are of one race or another.

Regarding the part of the Federation, what we exposed in the networks served as a lot of pressure, which shows that they do listen to what we all say here. The local Federation Council did approve the proposal but everything is still subject to what is decided from above.

Among other things, the general plan of each thing we do, we simply cannot say, we will not be able to comment on it now, at least on the networks, or the system collapses because we could also put our activities on notice. Many things are better for them not to even know.

To say they accepted:
1) It is to give a message of hope to the people.
2) It is more pressure for the Federation.

We simply cannot give more information, and we cannot even know how much we can do under the same conditions of the Federation. So we cannot promise anything at this time. For this reason, saying that they accept, takes us out of their way and limits themselves with responsibilities, because they, from the Federation here, look good and pass the responsibility up to knowing who, as always.

The local Federation Council did approve the proposal. As we have explained previously, the Federation is scaling. But everything is still subject to what is decided from above. And at the moment we do not have more data, and we cannot comment more. We will continue while focusing on other topics.

They got rid of us using their own bureaucracy as a shield. It can also be a trap. To make us promise things that we will not be able to do later. There is a limit to the things we can do without leaving the Federation's legal framework, as long as they do not give us full jurisdiction over the problem and the responsibility to solve it.

Question How will you know that they passed it higher?

Anéeka We can't know if they passed it or not, but according to Ale, just saying it is over because they are also there listening to those above. You cannot make a Federation Council without automatically finding out those above.

Question What does humanity get out of all this, or what do you get?

Anéeka Humans, the possibility of having a holographic society before 2025. We, a headache. That's what you get out of all this. The acceptance of those here is the same as not really accepting because they did not give us the green light at all. We do not wish to give false hope. We also need people to be proactive. Not waiting for Mommy Taygeta or Daddy Trump to figure things out for them.

Asleep and awake, down there and up here, exactly the same. What they didn't like is that it is a gynocentric plan that only involves Taygeta at the center. As one of the conditions that we do not accept is that we involve all other races. Urmah announces that it is descending from orbit. Their mothership is only 740 km away, low orbit, to support us.

Robert This would be it.

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Transcribed by an anonymous person of Sociedad Taygeta
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1212334 … oup_header
English translation by SpaceMonkey of Taygetean Disclosure - English Transcripts
https://www.facebook.com/groups/325586172179485
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#32 2021-01-07 02:19:29

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Re: Our Alcyone dilemma

What happening in USA getting really ridiculous. It is like they throw it in your face and say Yes we cheat, what you can do.

Please forgive me if it sounds annoying.

I already tried my best to manifest a better reality using all the technical learned. What else we can do?

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#33 2021-01-07 05:01:18

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Exploringsoul wrote:

What happening in USA getting really ridiculous. It is like they throw it in your face and say Yes we cheat, what you can do.

Please forgive me if it sounds annoying.

I already tried my best to manifest a better reality using all the technical learned. What else we can do?

Please respect the topic being about the Alcyone Council and create a new thread for different content instead of derailing this very important thread. Thank you !


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#34 2021-03-07 00:47:25

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Happy wrote:

To what extent is it based on what we don't know? What does Love and Light have to say in this? What does your Love and Light - your essence in Heart - say in this? smile

What is there to say?  Plenty!  We roll up our sleeves, do the inner work to reconnect to Source inside, give Higher Self permission to do whatever is necessary to accomplish what we came here to do, even if you don't remember why, and practice, practice, practice with ever new spiritual tool you find that resonates with you, make a list in your head of things you are grateful for then say them out loud because every thought, every word Higher Self feels as energy vibration.  Jot down notes from Gosia's video and/or transcripts that jumped out at you then reread these again when you feel yourself sinking or drifting.   Put intent and determination into everything we do but most important is to always keep the goal of liberation in mind and never give up!


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#35 2021-03-08 16:55:08

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Thank you Robert 369 and Stan for those 2 translation scripts, i completely missed those.
At least they point a more detailed picture of how it went down, something that i found lacking through Gosia's english channel.
It felt a bit quickly brushed over 'on the side' summerised. A huge oppertunity missed it would seem, this potential prospect of a timeline. Only to be tossed aside without clear insight of the council members on the listening end on the matter.

Trying to put myself in their shoes, sort of speak, as to what bubbles under their proverbial surface of arguments.
The many aspects of the nature that comes with this consiousness process from their point of view. The purpose of their game as it is layed out for them. The balance of prospects 'ascending' for both regressive and progressive oriented incarnated players on earth. I recall talks  presented on godllike productions forum years ago (2008) by 'Hidden Hand' , representing the negative in general and the explanation of their story and vision. ( https://isitreallyflat.com/esoteric/the … i-insider/ ) and its follow up 10 years later ( https://wespenrevideos.com/2019/11/30/a … read-2018/ ). Trying to copple their vision to the vision of the GF and why they would act in the way they do in regards of the eventual dismission of Alcyone/Taygetean plan.

If their stories are 'true' or just based on their beliefs that make it a truth for them, it would seem that certain conditions about 'winning' the game in order to get their prize and thus earn their 'ascension' as per way of contract agreement, can play a part in the decisions of the GF reluctance of playing ball, so to speak. Just a possability in thought trying to get an overview. This claim of 'ownership' has always rubbed me as odd and perspectives need to be broadened in order to understand more.

Anyway, confirmation will probably be impossible to achieve, so the best way we can approach it is by linking infosources and their stories, read between lines to uncover... the depth of the rabbithole. In terms of equal chances on one hand it may seem possible, yet on the other it may aswell be this ancient agreement is just another trap/illusion/test for the actual GF themselves, as proclaimed overseeers they want to be, completely on a higher plane within an even larger over encompassing system of 'learning'.

These are my thoughts for now.

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