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#1 2022-03-24 23:08:27

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HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

"Holographic" - HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu


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"Second part of the subject where Yazhi Swaruu (Sophia) explains us how the Holistic Societies generate, and what is necessary for it to emerge on our planet."


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#2 2022-03-25 03:32:57

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An intergenerational solution. Makes perfect sense.

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#3 2022-03-25 08:11:08

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Hi JimiPickle,

Not sure about your reference there ("post 1573/1574"). I tried to look it up but it made no sense.

"The Great Awakening" is a generalized term for realizing how deep the influence by extraterrestrials have been upon Earth. I haven't delved much into the concept, but consider it focusing on the enabling aspects of new knowledge, where the old limited knowledge had disabling effects relative to the new perspective achieved. To awaken also points to waking up from sleep, which is not an irrelevant parallel in these times.

And "holistic" hardly means to eliminate duality, as all existence outside/below Source can be characterized by duality. This is because the mere formation of a concept introduces the separation from the opposite. - or what the concept is not. Imagine Source phrasing the concept of "I" - then there is something that is "not I." But this is a different form of duality that many are used to. People often thinks of duality more like extremes on a metric scale.

"The Great Reset" is understood as a deliberate engineered perceived reality of the remaining population upon Earth. To most of us here, it is also understood as erasing collective knowledge - to make the population manageable by the slave-masters.

"Negativity" will always be a relative term, but if this is understood as in relation to a fixed reference, like the shared informed consciousness among us here, any attempt to split that up or reduce it is justified to be called negative. As such it can also be a normative term, which points to morality. And then, to limit another being's potential for expansion and integration is justified to be called negative.

I can understand why this video was delayed. The focus may feel depressing, and we need to dig deep to find the reasons why Earth humans outside of the "reset" actually have a bright future. And I think there's reason to say that this perspective actually involves more than Earth humans... smile


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#4 2022-03-25 14:28:19

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Re: HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

It was a good listen, but I'm more interested in what wasn't said and I got the impression that a lot can't be said for strategic reasons. Even Gosia said it at one point, the consistent message is humanity must help itself, or at least the starseed faction and then any additional help that comes is a bonus but can't be assumed.

I'm glad that ethics and morals was simplified, I never understood the difference between the two and the idea that morals are just a fashion as laid down by religions was good information!

I'm slightly disappointed that there are no quick fixes. I guess being a human with a short life means you want to see changes happen rapidly, but it seems all sides are playing a complex, multigenerational game and I'm definitely not coming back after this life!

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#5 2022-03-25 14:55:07

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Re: HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

ro2778 wrote:

I'm slightly disappointed that there are no quick fixes. I guess being a human with a short life means you want to see changes happen rapidly, but it seems all sides are playing a complex, multigenerational game and I'm definitely not coming back after this life!

I don't see it as negative really:

There exist means that are able to speed up this process, after all, time is subjective only, right ? One example would be a global frequency raise, after which perceived time gets changed. But also other means exist, meaning that help in this can be given "from above" if so desired, though I agree that any help must be limited as to not prevent Humanity from growing from within, as otherwise the next fallback into low frequency systems would be predictable.

As for "multi-generational", this also directly ties to the perception of time and thus the consciousness level, but of course also to a healthy and life-giving environment (which is being worked on). It is general knowledge that the current Human life span is known to be artificially shortened to prevent the accumulation of wisdom in the "slaves". But all of this can be undone, both via changing one's lifestyle and one's consciousness level, but also by raising one's frequency high enough to no longer be needing to age - because the Human body can almost fully regenerate from anything if it is proper treated.

This means that both aspects can be countered if one is willing to investing oneself into personal growth.

Both of the above aspects require to utterly change away from fake-science and anything low frequency and gain at least a basic understanding of how the universe, life and consciousness operate, so these should be the first steps - and they will also lead to further consciousness-related benefits.


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#6 2022-03-25 15:26:47

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ro2778 wrote:

I'm glad that ethics and morals was simplified, I never understood the difference between the two and the idea that morals are just a fashion as laid down by religions was good information!


You point to the reason why I upon time took it as a challenge to investigate the two concepts. It resulted in getting into the habit of questioning all concepts I didn't fully understand, but realized I related to - consciously or sub(un)consciously.

The two concepts are often used uncritically and often with opposite meanings. A lawyer-firm may present a definition for each of them, while for instance a governmental institution define them in an opposite fashion. Even Universities differ in this.

I found that ethics is usually presented as used like a special case of moral, making the concept useless in discussions. And this in spite of both ethics and moral having been subject to extreme scrutiny by philosophers for at least 2000 years.

...perhaps an explanation for the confusion is found there... neutral


Edit: Whenever you read a fairy-tale which ends with something like "...in case of this and that, you better do so and so. If not something bad could happen to you..." - you have probably read a genuine fairy-tale from Europe, from the times of oral tradition. That ending is the moral of the tale, and probably the reason why the tale was told.


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#7 2022-03-25 17:52:17

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JimiPickle wrote:

My bad, post 1513 and 1514. The focus is not depressing to me and no consciousness is without a journey. Holistic, without duality is 1513. 1514 is something else. The reason I bring this up is the complementary views from above and below…

Thank you for your reply


https://forum.swaruu.org/viewtopic.php?id=1513

https://forum.swaruu.org/viewtopic.php?id=1514


Ouch. Of course! Thread 1513 & 1514. I should've seen it. Sorry about that. And thank you! smile


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#8 2022-03-25 19:28:40

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JimiPickle wrote:

Okay, you see the complimentary views. So, in order for a dualistic existence to awaken to CONSCIOUSNESS, total control must present itself. Meaning, the opposite of CONSCIOUSNESS must present itself. We know we will resist the effort of said control, but it must surface. Therefore, to achieve this holistic society, we ought to welcome the great reset; for without the reset, there can be no presentation of the opposite. Does this make sense?

This pretty much equals the GF's false belief of personal growth only happening through suffering; which clearly is indoctrinated by the regressive masters that run the 3D Matrix to keep their loosh supply going.

I will admit that this path will grow you at first - which is the bait to make people follow this nonsense -, but only to a certain level - after which it will block you from getting into full self-empowerment, path of which is not needing to suffer anymore but being able to grow from within only. Thus, it is a belief system that results in the self-limitation of the people, as that would be the end of any regressive control.

Truth is what Swaruu said at some point: We do not need suffering to grow, because we only need to realize the opposites but not experience them - especially not the extremes.

And this is why the 3D Matrix needs to go, along with all the false belief systems that foster suffering for the loosh creation and harvesting of the 3D Matrix masters behind all of it. And yes, I am aware that this implies that the GF portion that runs the 3D Matrix also are "loosh harvesters", and they (along with their regressive servants) will be starved out as soon as the loosh supply ends and the frequency of our planet raises.

For this to happen, people need to realize that it is their very own energy that they firstly turn into loosh (e.g. via subscribing to cabalistic fear-porn) instead of something positive, and then by doing so lower their very own frequency more and more - until everything they do creates loosh.

The way out is as simply as it can be: Stop participating in the Cabal loosh systems (which includes pretty much all of them), and instead do what one wants to do and live how one wants to live - without "I cannot because <add random convenience exuse>". If everyone did that, not only would the loosh farming and by that the loosh farmers and thus the 3D Matrix disappear, but at the same time the frequency of everyone and the environment will raise.


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#9 2022-03-25 19:30:54

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JimiPickle wrote:

Okay, you see the complimentary views. So, in order for a dualistic existence to awaken to CONSCIOUSNESS, total control must present itself. Meaning, the opposite of CONSCIOUSNESS must present itself. We know we will resist the effort of said control, but it must surface. Therefore, to achieve this holistic society, we ought to welcome the great reset; for without the reset, there can be no presentation of the opposite. Does this make sense?


Mmmm... I probably wouldn't phrase it so insistent as "must present itself." Knowing what's on the other side of the border, doesn't mean we reach for it. Only that we know this is where the border goes. Some of us have had lifetime upon lifetime to get to know evil. We don't need to let it materialize to realize how important it is to avoid it. We could have reached the phase of attunement with our higher selves ages ago with proper hands-on guidance. We weren't allowed that, due to some dubious agenda in the higher echelons. Now we know, and now we clearly see where the evil forces take us. But we won't do that. That is something we definitely will not allow. We're done with it. smile


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#10 2022-03-25 20:35:28

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Re: HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

I see it this way. We are here to help but only those who are ready to be helped. Those who are close to the consciousness level that create liberation from the 3D matrix. Everyone else, they will need more living and experiencing. And that is our role here. I do not like living on this planet with such limitations and such presence of evil. I will live and help until I can no matter the odds but that's it.
Definitely do not see possible of establishing any holistic society, not at least where I am. Here people wait someone else to lead, to make the first step, to sacrifice for the common cause, someone else to take all the responsibility. Most people only talk but no one do anything substantial in order change to happen. Maybe all are afraid for their lives and being hypocritical. It is hard to believe anyone with such behavior.

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#11 2022-03-25 21:41:28

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Re: HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

It is clear to me at least, that we are engaged in spiritual warfare. Battle lines which may not have been all that obvious that long ago, have been clarified. Nasty that the GF is directly involved in extermination of a species if that is what these bio-suits can be called. Our lives might well be shortened, but it is the tool with which we have been presented, to make the necessary modifications in order that the coming generations have something to build upon, to further advance forward in their own lifetimes.

Everyone has a place in this spiritual war. With the right kind of support and empowerment, what surprises me most is how ready the next generation is to fight in this endless struggle for freedom. It is natural leadership by the young ones. The strengthening of the environment in which they operate, to enable them to go further and achieve more than what we did, seems to have worked quite well for us over the generations.

While it is clear that developing individual consciousness is important for the individual and developing collective consciousness is important for the collective, intergenerational consciousness (in my opinion) is important for survival. Just my two cents

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#12 2022-03-26 04:49:31

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33:00 into the video:  inside humans "what manages them turns out to be  a whole range or zoo of entities or species using the same bio-suit, which increases the difficulty of what we wish to achieve."

Years ago I was with about ten of my friends and I got them all to do lightworking with me. One person sat on a chair while the rest of us made a circle of people around the chair, and sent them love for 3-4 minutes, palms of our hands facing the person in the middle. It was too much for the entities, they could not stand the love coming to them from ten people at once. They left. Two people in the group could see or sense ghosts, and they both exclaimed that about a dozen or so entities came out of each of us. One of them exclaimed that we needed to open a window to let all the entities out of the house. We all felt great for about three days after that.   Each person got a turn in the middle.
Previous to that I had tried it using 6 people for about 30 seconds and it did not achieve the desired effect. I wonder what would happen if 15 or more people were used.

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#13 2022-03-26 06:57:08

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In my opinion the absence of a holistic society is not the main issue.   I think the structure of a system (of the organisation of society ) is not very important.

If i look in history, there are many different forms of society in which the people live in harmony and beauty.  I think the optimal structure of society depends from the situation (for example, is it a rural culture, it is a primitive culture, is it a city - state and so on.)

I don't agree with Yazhi's statement that it is the same brainwashing now as before.

No. In the old days humans ever have had the ability to feel the beauty  of creation and the  holiness of life.  Yes there were a kind of mind control, but the ability to connect with the higher feelings was given. Now it is taken from the humans, genetically.

The new genetically modified human feels nothing when he sees an old tree. For him it is only a piece of wood. He doesn't see the beauty, he is not touched by the majesty.

And I think this lack of ability to feel such higher feelings is the main problem, not the manner in which a society is organized.

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#14 2022-03-27 02:06:00

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Re: HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

A "holistic" society and the ability to feel the "majesty" and energies of a very old tree go hand in hand. So yes the structure of the society is important, but the nature of these societies comes from within and without. The inner and outer can/will synergize or desynergize the capacities of empathy/intuition to feel "higher" energies. Imposing one's will can be detrimental to feeling the depth of energies in any lifeform, so assuming a warring attitude deconstructs these capacities. So in that sense the structure of society can downgrade these capacities and as such is important to change for progressive dynamics, or if these impositions remain will serve to further regress a system, which from the standpoint of a learning process (if it is seen as such) can bring about progression later, but this is a gamble, as it's a bottomless pit in exploration. But it is also true for "lighter" and "higher" systems having no end.

Also living in harmony with nature and beauty is a form of holistic society, but of course those two descriptions are infinitely open for interpretation and exploration. So saying living in harmony with nature and beauty can mean being part of a warring system/tribe/society, if one values dominating and loves seeing someone submit to one's will.

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#15 2022-03-27 13:25:41

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Re: HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

JimiPickle wrote:

Happy, won’t the loosh farming and suffering continue under the current effort?


As of now, loosh farming is ominous all over the planet.


JimiPickle wrote:

The longer they control the masses the longer the suffering. We cannot stop it because we choose not to stop seeing it. Their is no evil, that is just our dualistic mind stepping in to judge.


Yes, but "evil" is a relative term, and we can judge an act as evil. It is possible to understand evil as the inter-species/inter-personal version of "regressive", which does not emphasize the interpersonal relationship, but in itself is the tendency to self-destruct according to Swaruu of Erra/Yazhi.


JimiPickle wrote:

Swaruu has disdain for their efforts because it traps so many into a perpetual cycle of suffering. The experience of duality ends when we step away from chasing light and dark, good and evil etc. The CONSCIOUSNESS that is with us is not the doer. The (ego/mind/I) is the doer and if the doer continues to seek the conflicts of duality, then the CONSCIOUSNESS with us will be along for the ride and see that the ride is not with us.


There is a difference between "Ego" and "Self"/"I." Remember, we relate to the world and our own being both consciously and sub(un)consciously. The sum of those could possibly be seen as "Ego," while the "Self" could be seen as the conscious part only.

None of us wish to relate to our tulpas, yet they have a bad tendency to appear when we unconsciously activate the opposites of our consciously adopted polarized concepts/creations. We can transform the "ego" into "Self," however, with so-called shadow-work. Then we become enabled by our active choices and enlightenment from the conscious definition/understanding of ourselves.

As such, our enabled efforts to withstand evil is a result of knowing both good and evil, because that is where we draw the line. We don't abandon our physical being by leaving our bodies out of the equation. We are both body and soul. - both a physical body and consciousness.


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