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#1 2022-05-30 04:52:33

Scott Summers
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Time to make a stand

Friends

Please see Cristiane’s video. Link here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T57acw42iMo

The Taygetan Disclosure is under relentless attack. Ironically, that in itself is a very good indicator of how effective it has been.

However, the time to remain silent supporters is over.

We have had 4 years of materials to make up our mind on whether the Taygetan Disclosure is legit.

If you don’t believe it now, more videos will not change your mind.

If you believe it, then may I kindly suggest that you need to push-back on these attacks.

“Turning the other cheek” is Roman Biblical bullshit. Do not fall into that trap. (If you were falsely accused of breaking the law, would you turn the other cheek or hire a good lawyer?)

Do it for the crew on the Toleka. Show that you care.

Time is running out for the Cabal. You have to pick a side.

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#2 2022-05-30 08:16:05

DarkOwl
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Re: Time to make a stand

I agree with Christina when she said she believed that the recent attacks will work out in favour of the Taygetans and had had the same thought myself. I'm not sure we really need to do anything except allow the attackers to shoot themselves in the foot. I've investigated just about every attack. I've listened to what ex-contactees have said (I've even read one of their books). I've read the leaked chat logs. I've seen the porn-star lookalikes.

Frankly I don't think there is anything to worry about. All i can see is the picture coming into much sharper focus. Challenges to ones point of view are always welcome in my book. If it stands on truth, it will prevail. If not, it will crumble, and rightfully so.

I see this contact going from strength to strength!


Most experiences are unsayable, they happen in a space that no word has ever entered    Rainer Maria Rilke

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#3 2022-05-30 09:07:35

Scott Summers
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Re: Time to make a stand

DarkOwl wrote:

I agree with Christina when she said she believed that the recent attacks will work out in favour of the Taygetans and had had the same thought myself. I'm not sure we really need to do anything except allow the attackers to shoot themselves in the foot. I've investigated just about every attack. I've listened to what ex-contactees have said (I've even read one of their books). I've read the leaked chat logs. I've seen the porn-star lookalikes.

Frankly I don't think there is anything to worry about. All i can see is the picture coming into much sharper focus. Challenges to ones point of view are always welcome in my book. If it stands on truth, it will prevail. If not, it will crumble, and rightfully so.

I see this contact going from strength to strength!

DarkOwl

Your points are absolutely valid. I agree with your analysis.

What I wish to add is that we’re looking at it from the point of view of us having grown up on Earth.

Basically, we’re kind of used to this nonsense.

We’re able to compartmentalise and brush it off. This kind of resilience is necessary to survive Earth.

The Taygetans did not grow up on Earth. They’re not as thick-skinned as us. They may know everything about Earth, but that’s not the same as growing up here.

This is not to put the Taygetans down in any way. The same point could be made about us if the positions were reversed.

Lastly, if we want to have peace from these ‘bullies’, sometimes we need to STAMP HARD and fracture some toes.

Then the jokers will leave us alone. Or at least think twice before pulling the same shit.

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#4 2022-05-30 09:31:33

mryang
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Re: Time to make a stand

Scott Summers wrote:

Friends

Please see Cristiane’s video. Link here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T57acw42iMo

1. The Taygetan Disclosure is under relentless attack
2. Do it for the crew on the Toleka. Show that you care.
3. Time is running out for the Cabal. You have to pick a side.

Can you be more specific:

1. What kind of attack? I see only opinions. If another opinion is regarded as an "attack" we are sorely misunderstanding the concept of a free dialogue.
2. Show how?
3a. In what way is the time running out?
3b. What sides are there?
3c. Why do we have to pick a side?

My questions might feel like they provoke, but I'm seriously curious and I want to give you my answers when I understand the matter deeper.


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#5 2022-05-30 09:43:21

Scott Summers
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Re: Time to make a stand

mryang wrote:
Scott Summers wrote:

Friends

Please see Cristiane’s video. Link here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T57acw42iMo

1. The Taygetan Disclosure is under relentless attack
2. Do it for the crew on the Toleka. Show that you care.
3. Time is running out for the Cabal. You have to pick a side.

Can you be more specific:

1. What kind of attack? I see only opinions. If another opinion is regarded as an "attack" we are sorely misunderstanding the concept of a free dialogue.
2. Show how?
3a. In what way is the time running out?
3b. What sides are there?
3c. Why do we have to pick a side?

My questions might feel like they provoke, but I'm seriously curious and I want to give you my answers when I understand the matter deeper.

mryang

No offence taken at all.

If you see only opinions, then that’s fine. Others see something else, and that’s fine for them too.

My suggestion was for them and it’s fine if you see things differently.

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#6 2022-05-30 10:44:46

Robert369
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Re: Time to make a stand

mryang wrote:

1. What kind of attack? I see only opinions. If another opinion is regarded as an "attack" we are sorely misunderstanding the concept of a free dialogue.

I'd agree to this if the provided "opinion" wasn't intentionally spiced with lies and omissions and more than obviously follow an agenda, while spreading it with violence in every channel they can find and by that actively seek to badmouth the Taygetan content here with propaganda falseties.

If you call this "having an opinion", then I need to question your understanding of a "free dialogue", e.g. is spreading false propaganda merely a dialog too in your view ?


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#7 2022-05-30 12:57:33

mitkobs
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Re: Time to make a stand

These attacks should be expected before starting the communication. No need to dramatize. Also, no need to get attached to the communication from both sides - ground and orbit. Messages are passed and continue to get passed. Everyone interested on the ground will find them and knowledge will be applied.

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#8 2022-05-30 12:59:16

Rocketmidget
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Re: Time to make a stand

The pk girls drama was suprising but then again nothing is very suprising on this planet. Still read their info.
Attacks on taygetan info dont bother me , truth or what i know is my truth will be attacked here nonstop.
I told chris month ago id make a vid and have not. So many levels to all this i had a hard time putting what i think in 1 short vid but im going to do it now...i went back and forth in my mind of what exactly to say but whatever..say something!

Peace friends and remember..you are not a part of source, you are ALL of it.

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#9 2022-05-30 17:31:08

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Re: Time to make a stand

Genoveva wrote:

My suggestion: take a stand against every lie, manipulation or toxicity! Take a stand for yourself, but also for other beings. Simple as that.

I'm with Genoveva here smile

And i would ad to do so when YOU feel it is relevant for you.
With that i bring the relevance back to the free will of the individual and their respons-ability to handle consequences either way.
This emphasis on the collective (humanity), while blindsiding the role of the individual within the dynamic of them creating collectives has the potential of being overshadowed by the 'others'. The larger the "organism/organisation", the more complex that balance can become to 'control'. On the one hand i can see the argument of control as valid in order to provide a healthy environment for growth to expand, so it doesn't become cancerous by nature. On the other hand the 'leash' needs enough room for interests to explore.

But what harm is done here ? Yahzi decided to contact another human-with-a-tube-channel ?
Ooooh, big deal. The dynamic hasn't changed at all, just the field of influence perhaps. There are soo many contacts out here through channeling procedures for example. They provide information just as well, from their point of view.
Whoever wants to listen , can do so. Law of attraction with free will in motion.
In order to be trusted one needs to trust in the first place, no strings attached. It can bloom or wither, and then still it can change.

Emotion / Energy Motion is part of the 'equation', it is the color that feeds the ex-pe(e)r-(sc)ience.
To take the formula of 'Bashar (messenger) of the Sassani' :

#1. Act on your excitement, your passion, whatever is most exciting to you, in the moment. Do this every moment that you can.
#2. Do this to the best of your ability. Take it as far as you can go until you cannot take it any further.
#3. Act on your excitement/passion with absolutely no insistence, assumption or expectation of what the outcome should be.
#4. Choose to remain in a positive state regardless of what happens.
#5. Constantly investigate your belief systems. Release & replace the un-preferred beliefs: fear-based beliefs, and the beliefs not in alignment with who you prefer to be.

In my book no One is excempt from this, so that includes Yahzi Swaruu (and alternates lol), Anneeka, etcetera ... aswell.
If it doesn't work out, there's all-ways another way, and you and me.
 
"Al is de leugen nog zo snel, de waarheid achterhaalt hem wel" ... is a saying here in my language wich translates (roughly) to:
"Even if the lie is so fast, truth will catch up at last".

I do recognise that i can only speak for myself and will refrain myself to judge others, as i may not be aware of more expanded contexts. The role of arbiter/parent/etc is that of protection to provide that 'leash' to be fair. As long we are playing the game 'in' timespace, the more we expand in spacetime. And so we act in the moment to the best of our ability, and accept the consequences.

... Oh God, i'm lecturing ... runs away 

Love you guys wink

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#10 2022-05-30 18:07:50

07wideeyes
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Re: Time to make a stand

Hey, good to hear from you Bigfeet! Especially since you have many good things to say in this post of yours.

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#11 2022-05-30 23:17:23

DebraRenee
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Re: Time to make a stand

Scott Summers wrote:

What I wish to add is that we’re looking at it from the point of view of us having grown up on Earth.

Basically, we’re kind of used to this nonsense.

We’re able to compartmentalise and brush it off. This kind of resilience is necessary to survive Earth.

The Taygetans did not grow up on Earth. They’re not as thick-skinned as us. They may know everything about Earth, but that’s not the same as growing up here.

This is not to put the Taygetans down in any way. The same point could be made about us if the positions were reversed.


I get a weird feeling this is the reason they are doing what they are doing...hurt the Team so bad they don't want to talk to or be involved with anyone down here. It's the only thing that makes sense because they keep the real information on their channels so they have no doubts it true. It's like a hit below the belt type move. "we didn't get what we want so no one will get it"... My take is that people who matter will see through it easily. Most important action I want to take is letting the Taygetans and Swaruuians know their contact is of real value to a lot of us down here and we love and support them in every way.

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#12 2022-05-30 23:22:24

Scott Summers
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DebraRenee wrote:

I get a weird feeling this is the reason they are doing what they are doing...hurt the Team so bad they don't want to talk to or be involved with anyone down here. It's the only thing that makes sense because they keep the real information on their channels so they have no doubts it true. It's like a hit below the belt type move. "we didn't get what we want so no one will get it"... My take is that people who matter will see through it easily. Most important action I want to take is letting the Taygetans and Swaruuians know their contact is of real value to a lot of us down here and we love and support them in every way.


You are spot-on.

If someone did this to your family, would you stand up for them?

Or would you say “it’s just another opinion?”

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#13 2022-05-30 23:35:23

DebraRenee
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Re: Time to make a stand

Scott Summers wrote:

You are spot-on.

If someone did this to your family, would you stand up for them?

Or would you say “it’s just another opinion?”


Best way to expose a liar is to let them expose themselves. They are stepping in it big time, building a web of lies that will trap themselves. It’s only a matter of waiting…as far as they are concerned. That is not my take on what we do for the Team. They need our support, they need to know that what they have been doing is not a waste of time and they are reaching the ones that matter. I think work like the Messages to Humanity channel…others make channels, post videos telling the Team how much they mean to us. They need to hear it directly from us. The liars will expose themselves, the important thing here is showing the Team how important they are…that’s where energy should go, lifting them up…supporting them…giving them strength, they’ve sure done it for us…in my humble opinion…

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#14 2022-05-31 07:30:13

DarkOwl
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Re: Time to make a stand

Scott Summers wrote:

DarkOwl

Your points are absolutely valid. I agree with your analysis.

What I wish to add is that we’re looking at it from the point of view of us having grown up on Earth.

Basically, we’re kind of used to this nonsense.

We’re able to compartmentalise and brush it off. This kind of resilience is necessary to survive Earth.

The Taygetans did not grow up on Earth. They’re not as thick-skinned as us. They may know everything about Earth, but that’s not the same as growing up here.

This is not to put the Taygetans down in any way. The same point could be made about us if the positions were reversed.

Lastly, if we want to have peace from these ‘bullies’, sometimes we need to STAMP HARD and fracture some toes.

Then the jokers will leave us alone. Or at least think twice before pulling the same shit.

Totally agree Scott! I should have said in my previous post that I totally get your sense of wanting to protect the Taygetans from earth BS. I do too!!

And if toes need stomping to do so, so be it. But then there's this from the Art Of War which is what I had in mind.

When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way.

Foot stomp is still locked and loaded but wink


Most experiences are unsayable, they happen in a space that no word has ever entered    Rainer Maria Rilke

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#15 2022-05-31 09:30:10

Gosia
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Don´t worry guys, I am already preparing a video where everything will be understood more. It may come as a shocker but we are not going to restrain ourselves more, we will show you all eveything we have. We refrained ourselves for the whole year, trying to be "ethical" and not "lower to their level" and get distracted, giving them the opportunity to leave on their own quietly. But those days are over, and I am sorry in advance to everyone that you need to go through this and have me waste my time on this instead of continue to give you valuable information. Unfortunately, it´s time to show to the world the whole story around those two infiltrators (yes, thats what they have been since the beginning). I feel we have no other option. Stay tuned! If you see me absent these days from making videos, it´s because I am preparing a special defense video-documentary. Thank you all!

DarkOwl wrote:
Scott Summers wrote:

DarkOwl

Your points are absolutely valid. I agree with your analysis.

What I wish to add is that we’re looking at it from the point of view of us having grown up on Earth.

Basically, we’re kind of used to this nonsense.

We’re able to compartmentalise and brush it off. This kind of resilience is necessary to survive Earth.

The Taygetans did not grow up on Earth. They’re not as thick-skinned as us. They may know everything about Earth, but that’s not the same as growing up here.

This is not to put the Taygetans down in any way. The same point could be made about us if the positions were reversed.

Lastly, if we want to have peace from these ‘bullies’, sometimes we need to STAMP HARD and fracture some toes.

Then the jokers will leave us alone. Or at least think twice before pulling the same shit.

Totally agree Scott! I should have said in my previous post that I totally get your sense of wanting to protect the Taygetans from earth BS. I do too!!

And if toes need stomping to do so, so be it. But then there's this from the Art Of War which is what I had in mind.

When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way.

Foot stomp is still locked and loaded but wink

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#16 2022-05-31 09:49:03

07wideeyes
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Love you, Gosia!!  xx

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#17 2022-05-31 11:10:58

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As someone who both feels an extremely strong resonance with the Taygetans, their culture, and their information and, paradoxically, as someone who's been vocally critical of their policies from time to time, I have investigated this contact from every angle and considered every theory myself with what evidence I have and what discernment and logic I am capable of. I've given it a lot of thought. I have even looked at the angles that it could be a cabal disinformation and mind control psy-op, or manipulation by negative ET's.

If this were a cabal mind-control psy-op, it would stretch the limit of what the cabal are capable of, let alone some random cult of internet trolls, as has been the accusation from some ET related online communities that I do not personally find to be of high quality or sharp discernment. From my own personal experiences and that of others, I can say with certainty that it would be impossible for random trolls, and if it were a cabal psy-op, it would involve much more than chat bots and photoshopped porn stars, and would require synthetic telepathy, astral and dream manipulation, and implantation of false memories among other sophisticated means of deception and would have had to be planned out and active over a span much longer than 2008 until now. It would require an extreme level of sophistication and organization, as well as heavy use of technologies that are at the absolute pinnacle of alleged cabal capability. While something like this is not completely impossible, this explanation is a stretch and just doesn't quite intuitively feel right to me. I also had my own concerns about a couple of the accusations by the PK girls, particularly about the failure to fulfil extraction contracts, but I also saw glaring inconsistencies with quite a few of their other accusations, which seem contrived rather than based on real, experiential evidence.

Based on all of the angles I've looked at logically and intuitively and all of my personal experiences and considerations, it is my belief that the Taygetan contact is real, and that they are who they say they are. There is a difference between believing and knowing or being able to prove as 100% undeniable fact, but I do believe this to be true. Additionally, although I personally believe that more should be done on behalf of humanity and starseeds and more drastic measures should be taken towards a timeline of disclosure, open contact, prevention of a reset, and formation of a holistic, galactic Earth society, I will concede that no other 5d society has done more towards those goals than the Taygetans.

This is my opinion as someone who resonates strongly with the Taygetans and feels that I am more than likely directly immersed here from a Taygetan incarnation, yet who is completely his own authority, and sometimes has opinions that contrast with current Taygetan policies towards Earth, and feel that I would do some things differently in regards to Earth if I were not immersed and still active in my former role in their society. Take that for whatever it's worth.

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#18 2022-05-31 13:16:07

Cocreatr
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Quick reply

"Penny Bradley on the largely secret human presence in space, and on the reaction our rather barbaric behavior out there elicits in the much more advanced races that make up the galactic 'authority'..." -- Sepp Hasslberger

Video premiered 2022-05-28 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x5rXMcby_Fc

Going to watch later and edit here if I see the need…

Edit: starting the video, trying to put on cc closed captioning, my finger touched the screen at 1:28, that is 1h 28m. Yes, it is a long video. So from there I watched, fascinated, and a good bit skeptical a few minutes until the moderator’s outro, “subscribe, …” etc.

Sharing this for those who just want a quick impression. If you want your personal intro, put your own finger to the timeline wherever you feel guided to.

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#19 2022-05-31 22:21:32

DarkOwl
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Gosia wrote:

Don´t worry guys, I am already preparing a video where everything will be understood more. It may come as a shocker but we are not going to restrain ourselves more, we will show you all eveything we have. We refrained ourselves for the whole year, trying to be "ethical" and not "lower to their level" and get distracted, giving them the opportunity to leave on their own quietly. But those days are over, and I am sorry in advance to everyone that you need to go through this and have me waste my time on this instead of continue to give you valuable information. Unfortunately, it´s time to show to the world the whole story around those two infiltrators (yes, thats what they have been since the beginning). I feel we have no other option. Stay tuned! If you see me absent these days from making videos, it´s because I am preparing a special defense video-documentary. Thank you all!

That's awesome Gosia! Just last night I was thinking a 'foot stomp' would come in the form of a well laid out video, exposing all. If I had video editing skills I would have liked to have made one myself, based on my limited (but still valid) view of the situation from a 'punters' point of view. The evidence for the Taygetans and against our attackers is mounting!!

Don't be sorry you have to do this. This community 100% supports you in all you do!! I'm sure it's not wasted time and will only work in our favour. Your restraint and measured responses to all past attacks hasn't gone unnoticed but obviously enough is enough.

And yes, echoing 07wideeeyes, we do very much love and support you here... 1000%!!


Most experiences are unsayable, they happen in a space that no word has ever entered    Rainer Maria Rilke

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#20 2022-05-31 22:39:49

DarkOwl
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Crystal Dragon wrote:

As someone who both feels an extremely strong resonance with the Taygetans, their culture, and their information and, paradoxically, as someone who's been vocally critical of their policies from time to time, I have investigated this contact from every angle and considered every theory myself with what evidence I have and what discernment and logic I am capable of. I've given it a lot of thought. I have even looked at the angles that it could be a cabal disinformation and mind control psy-op, or manipulation by negative ET's.

We've gone through a similar process Dragon (which makes accusations of this being a cult laughable!). Questioning everything is not very cult-like behaviour LOL

If this were a cabal mind-control psy-op, it would stretch the limit of what the cabal are capable of, let alone some random cult of internet trolls, as has been the accusation from some ET related online communities that I do not personally find to be of high quality or sharp discernment. From my own personal experiences and that of others, I can say with certainty that it would be impossible for random trolls, and if it were a cabal psy-op, it would involve much more than chat bots and photoshopped porn stars, and would require synthetic telepathy, astral and dream manipulation, and implantation of false memories among other sophisticated means of deception and would have had to be planned out and active over a span much longer than 2008 until now. It would require an extreme level of sophistication and organization, as well as heavy use of technologies that are at the absolute pinnacle of alleged cabal capability. While something like this is not completely impossible, this explanation is a stretch and just doesn't quite intuitively feel right to me. I also had my own concerns about a couple of the accusations by the PK girls, particularly about the failure to fulfil extraction contracts, but I also saw glaring inconsistencies with quite a few of their other accusations, which seem contrived rather than based on real, experiential evidence.

Once again, I've had similar thought processes. As a psy-op, it would take levels of sophistication never seen before and to what end? There would be signs of cult-making and subtle disempowerment but I see none of that (quite the opposite!). And yes, the extraction process re. the PK girls raised some questions for me too but based on everything else they said and the manner they said it, I can't give it too much weight (and why were they asking to be extracted anyway is what I'd like to know!)

This is my opinion as someone who resonates strongly with the Taygetans and feels that I am more than likely directly immersed here from a Taygetan incarnation, yet who is completely his own authority, and sometimes has opinions that contrast with current Taygetan policies towards Earth, and feel that I would do some things differently in regards to Earth if I were not immersed and still active in my former role in their society. Take that for whatever it's worth.

I was just thinking the other day I'd like to ask the forum who strongly suspected they were Taygetan. Personally, if I wasn't Taygetan I'd be very surprised. The resonance with all aspects of this contact is waaayy too deep for it to be otherwise, is how I feel.


Most experiences are unsayable, they happen in a space that no word has ever entered    Rainer Maria Rilke

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#21 2022-05-31 22:42:25

Gosia
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Re: Time to make a stand

Thank you! SOOOO Appreciated. And to all who show support smile

DarkOwl wrote:
Gosia wrote:

Don´t worry guys, I am already preparing a video where everything will be understood more. It may come as a shocker but we are not going to restrain ourselves more, we will show you all eveything we have. We refrained ourselves for the whole year, trying to be "ethical" and not "lower to their level" and get distracted, giving them the opportunity to leave on their own quietly. But those days are over, and I am sorry in advance to everyone that you need to go through this and have me waste my time on this instead of continue to give you valuable information. Unfortunately, it´s time to show to the world the whole story around those two infiltrators (yes, thats what they have been since the beginning). I feel we have no other option. Stay tuned! If you see me absent these days from making videos, it´s because I am preparing a special defense video-documentary. Thank you all!

That's awesome Gosia! Just last night I was thinking a 'foot stomp' would come in the form of a well laid out video, exposing all. If I had video editing skills I would have liked to have made one myself, based on my limited (but still valid) view of the situation from a 'punters' point of view. The evidence for the Taygetans and against our attackers is mounting!!

Don't be sorry you have to do this. This community 100% supports you in all you do!! I'm sure it's not wasted time and will only work in our favour. Your restraint and measured responses to all past attacks hasn't gone unnoticed but obviously enough is enough.

And yes, echoing 07wideeeyes, we do very much love and support you here... 1000%!!

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#22 2022-05-31 22:58:03

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Gosia,

I had no idea where to post this, so I hope that it gets to you.  After watching the video in the first post, it seemed the best place to post.  Please understand that I keep my digital footprint as small as possible, and reaching out is very uncomfortable for me.  I really appreciate your work, the information that you and the Swaruus have provided, and that I have spent the last four months consuming.  I have been on a very intense learning journey for about 6 months.  I can provide more detail if you would like.

After two weeks of conversations and dreams, it is very clear that I've been in contact with Yahzi, but not by internet.  I don't know how to contact her by internet, and she keeps telling me I need to contact you.  I hope there is a way for you to share that information off line.  I just want to help, and maybe verify that I'm not nuts.

Please feel free to delete this after you have made your decision either way.

Thank you so much for your time and energy that you provide to be a conduit as part of the Taygetan team.

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