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#1 2022-06-08 09:13:40

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Discussion of Infiltration video published 7th June 2022

I've only watched this once and there is a lot of information in there, so feel that the best place to discuss elements of this video is on the forum. Therefore I'm inviting members of this community to post comments and have a chat about the various topics raised within the video:

https://youtu.be/I7lZpKbeLJs

In summary, two prior contactees (Estel'la and Cristina) who published a lot of high quality information on their youtube channel, Pleiadian Knowledge (which is still there as I write this), had a falling out with Athena, which on a superficial level seemed to be related to how Athena et al., were witholding information from Estel'la (or Ester in the video) about the death of her lover, Alahi, who was a scientist on the Toleka. However, when his death was investigated it was found that Estel'la wasn't who they originally believed her to be i.e., the daughter of Alenym from another timeline who had apparently travelled to this timeline to warn Alenym about the destruction of Taygetan society and then who later entered Earth from immersion as Stella of Erra. Instead, they discovered from drone and sensor data, which Alahi, had gathered in order to feel closer to Estel'la during a contact outage, that she was hiding her true nature, which was a trojan horse sent by some other agent with links to Taygetan society, called Starlette. When Alahi discovered this, the shock led to a fatal heart attack and the investigation into his death led to the discovery of Estel'la and Cristina's alterior motives. Their plan was to be extracted and return to Taygetan society, where they would ultimately become puppets of the wider cabal via Starlette so as to take over Taygetan society. The video follows the saga from beginning to end, piecing together the stories of Estel'la and Cristina on Earth, their stellar personas, the investigation by Taygetan intelligence and the role played by the Swaruunian's. We learn about the extent to which lives are intertwined across multiple incarnations and timelines and I suppose how grudges play out and how complex plans are formed when these people have access to Taygetan level technology. In the end Starlette's network was captured and are undergoing rehabilitation in Taygeta, although Starlette apparently died from the shock of her failure.

The accusation of the Taygetan photos being from porn stars, actresses and other people on Earth is addressed and morphs into a metaphysical topic on the nature of photos as well as a technological discussion on how characters and information can be inserted into the Earth matrix. The topic is one that can be expanded on in future, because it relates to how stepdowns build a history to make their stay on Earth plausible and links to immersion entry as well. We also discover that the stellar persona's of Estel'la and Cristina were both removed from immersion and arrested for their crimes. Cristina being Starlette in some form of immersion. This of course raises questions of who continues on in their biosuits today, as they are busy attacking this Taygetan contact.

Because there is so much information in this video then it worth hearing everyone's thoughts and what everyone took away from it, as we are all bound to have missed interesting points and the implications of those.

My original thought was, because Stella of Erra becomes the mother of Swaruu 1, that means, that Alenym from another timeline is the grandmother of Swaruu 1! Quite interesting... and it really shows how we can jump around through apparent time and our lives are intertwined. Indeed, this is also how the reltionship developed between Estel'la and Alahi, when Alahi apprently remembered being in a relationship with Estel'la from a previous incarnation. Although, the details of that will likely never be known because of course he's dead and I presume Estel'la will never tell the story.

Now that a lot more has been revealed, I do have compassion for those girls. Even though they may have been playing the role of double agents, and bought into some vendetta against Taygetan society that was harboured by their master, Starlette, in the end there is an element of tragedy in the love Alahi felt for Estel'la, and the realisation that a broken heart can cause someone close to die. That is something which is hard to carry and heal from, perhaps even now Estel'la and Cristina are learning new details that were previously unknown, including the exit from immersion of their stellar personas. Therefore it's hard to imagine what must be going through their minds at this time, but from my perspective, all these games we play with each other, are forgiven in the end. We exist to play in infinite ways and now they are their own individuals, just as legitimate as any other with just as much potenital to develop their lives and their next lives in any direction they choose.

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#2 2022-06-08 10:08:22

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Was surprised that there are rogue elements in Taygeta society like this Starlette character. And she gone very far in mischief and downfall. Even creating numerous clones on her ship of all the Taygeta crew with ultirior motives. Running narcotic operation on Earth and human trafficking, this is very very low.

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#3 2022-06-08 10:53:41

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Here is the chat between Estel'la and Athena on her return to Barcelona, about witholding the information until her safe return: https://ufile.io/s12m33nx

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#4 2022-06-08 14:10:15

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Re: Discussion of Infiltration video published 7th June 2022

mitkobs wrote:

Was surprised that there are rogue elements in Taygeta society like this Starlette character. And she gone very far in mischief and downfall. Even creating numerous clones on her ship of all the Taygeta crew with ultirior motives. Running narcotic operation on Earth and human trafficking, this is very very low.

There was not any rogue in taygetan society. Starlette was not taygetan. Ive watched this about 4 times already.

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#5 2022-06-08 14:43:30

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I'd like to add that there are plenty of Regressive out there who are trying to infiltrate any and all star systems in our galaxy (and also beyond), so this occurrence isn't exactly special albeit surprising to see how close to a possible success it came.

And for the record, dozens of star systems in our galaxy have been taken over in the recent past without the GF noticing, as they were busy with their own mind-control. Now that this is over and the GF folks is slowly coming to their senses again (just like more and more people on Earth), the GF hopefully will soon be able to liberate those occupied star systems.

Thank you Gosia for this outstanding video presentation, and I am offering a private chat on these topics if so desired.


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#6 2022-06-08 14:48:06

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Rocketmidget thank you for correcting me. I got it wrong. She is linked with Taygeta but not from Taygeta, that what is said exactly in the video.

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#7 2022-06-08 15:05:13

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Your welcome friend.

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#8 2022-06-08 18:20:54

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Brahman wrote:

Isn't the information put out in the video (about cabal) in danger of being removed from youtube? I mean the Taygetans are in danger too. Otherwise the cabal puppets PK girls might notify them of this video since it concerns their involvement.

I imagine that a squabble between "contactees" is small potatoes to the Cabal compared to vaccines or the Ukraine, especially when it's mostly taking place in the Spanish-speaking world. I was a little surprised how many people in the comments had no idea who "Ester" and "Marina" even are.

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#9 2022-06-08 19:05:41

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Brahman wrote:

Isn't the information put out in the video (about cabal) in danger of being removed from youtube? I mean the Taygetans are in danger too. Otherwise the cabal puppets PK girls might notify them of this video since it concerns their involvement.

The cabal knows full well about all of this. The past 2 years they were trying to use this to infinltrate taygeta.

They never have a problem with real truth being out there. Who believes it anyway?
Oh..a few thousans people. Im sure they arent shaking in their boots yet.

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#10 2022-06-08 19:41:54

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Brahman wrote:

Isn't the information put out in the video (about cabal) in danger of being removed from youtube? I mean the Taygetans are in danger too. Otherwise the cabal puppets PK girls might notify them of this video since it concerns their involvement.

Probably not as much as you'd think. The entire Cosmic Agency channel is basically "allowed" to continue on their own platforms because the information comes from ET's. Normies avoid things like that like the plague. It's far too out there for them to even begin to consider the content as being valid. The purpose of this contact is for the seeds and whatnot to know the truth and spread the information through softer methods.

On a highly positive note, I have observed many of the things the Taygetans have taught making vague appearances on places like Reddit and 4chan... like not a post directly about Cosmic Agency... but perhaps someone saying something like "We're not victims"... something they've told us many times. I think their impact is much much greater than we realize.

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#11 2022-06-08 21:35:21

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The death of Alahi was not wasted. It overturned the elements within the GF who have consistently insisted that the GF must not get directly involved citing all kinds of excuses as a means of dismissing any suggestion of intervention.

It has given Alenym (and Taygeta in general) the opportunity, impetus and the platform to identify and to push back against those who might be supporting the interstellar invasion of Taygeta, not only vindicating previous Taygetan concerns but now forcing the GF to step back to question why they even exist.

Alenym turned out to be right and the GF turned out to be wrong. The death of Alahi was not wasted.

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#12 2022-06-08 21:41:26

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Thanks, Gosia, Robert and all who help. That video, watched with as open a mind as I am capable of, removed a lot of doubt I was not aware I had.  The night after I got a very brief and clear response to a deep question I only indirectly asked by my usual bedtime prayer “spirit, show me what I need to know”.

The day before, I had shared a summary from the automated video transcript, edited for clarity.

1:50:42 final comments

the cabal and their puppets work in a myriad of different ways and have a variety of resources at their disposal to discredit who they find dangerous and who they want to terminate

taygetans and swaruunians especially are dangerous to them because they are rebellious brave and dare to give humanity what they like to know about how things work

they are the only race among all extraterrestrials that i know of that has shared such an enormous magnitude of stellar information and knowledge something that according to the cabal humans are not supposed to know

they will rightly be discredited and with full force not only by attacking our work here but also by trying to reach them directly with trojan horses as was the case with ester and marina by the way they almost succeeded

so that is the story of the immense infiltration into our contact

i know that after this video there will be many questions and that there are missing elements to understand more
this story like so many others there is always more but we also hope that many of the questions were explained and that you have a better understanding of the forces behind or some of them that are trying to hinder this project

surely there are only some of these forces others will always appear which by the way must be because otherwise it would mean that our work has no effect

i wonder are we really ready for contact with extraterrestrial races especially with human appearance or will they end up in playboy again and again as yazhi said

when will we be mature enough to see that this kind of evidence does not hold up and that there is so much more behind

are we ready to understand that the world outside of earth is not all love and peace are we ready to face the fact that the terrestrial reality is very much linked with the extraterrestrial one and what forms both is something enormously complex
1:53:36
i think that is awakened as we all feel we all still have a lot to learn


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#13 2022-06-08 22:28:38

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Don't take what I'm about to say as a statement or a solidified opinion, it is a line of questions that I just don't know the answers to. In this situation, the Taygetans have taken direct action against the perpetrators, and even against cabal members who were in league with the perpetrators. Can and will they only do this when their own society is threatened and when ET persons with links to Alcyone council societies are involved? What about the perpetrators of the genocide/reset plan, or the child rapists and murderers who harvest adrenochrome? Does anything go as long as long as their own society isn't threatened by it, or do they take other actions directly on humanity's behalf but it's too sensitive to disclose? Is humanity truly viewed as a civilization that needs help and guidance, or as a problem that needs to be contained?

I think that it would be in everyone's best interest if more was done against the cabal, and if any of the federation races are actually outraged over the illegal reset, they should get themselves involved in no uncertain terms. The cabal is not here to learn and reform, it is impossible for them to learn lessons as long as they hold power. They are not here as a learning experience for wishy-washy humans, as those humans can't learn a damned thing under extreme manipulation and total control. They need to be removed, or problems will continue for everyone.

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#14 2022-06-08 23:53:16

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Who is Marina? I know Christina and Estella, the 2 girls running the YouTube channel Pleiadian Knowledge.

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#15 2022-06-09 00:07:44

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Crystal Dragon wrote:

Don't take what I'm about to say as a statement or a solidified opinion, it is a line of questions that I just don't know the answers to. In this situation, the Taygetans have taken direct action against the perpetrators, and even against cabal members who were in league with the perpetrators. Can and will they only do this when their own society is threatened and when ET persons with links to Alcyone council societies are involved? What about the perpetrators of the genocide/reset plan, or the child rapists and murderers who harvest adrenochrome? Does anything go as long as long as their own society isn't threatened by it, or do they take other actions directly on humanity's behalf but it's too sensitive to disclose? Is humanity truly viewed as a civilization that needs help and guidance, or as a problem that needs to be contained?

It would be my guess that the Prime Directive doesn't come into play when defending one's self. It does when dealing with other civilizations. What Starlette was doing was a direct threat to Alenym herself and the Taygetan civilization.

It's also been said before that the biggest problem on Earth is not the controllers, rather the consciousness of humanity as a whole. We are manifesting our own nightmares. If you remove the monsters that run Earth, the consciousness that exists among the population that allowed them to gain that power in the first place is still there. You will only replace one monster with another.

Also, we can't assume to know what the Taygetans have done or haven't done beyond what we get told. None of us would've known about this had the PK girls never attacked Cosmic Agency.

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#16 2022-06-09 00:09:43

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Exploringsoul wrote:

Who is Marina? I know Christina and Estella, the 2 girls running the YouTube channel Pleiadian Knowledge.

"Ester" and "Marina" are the names Gosia chose to substitute for Estella and Cristina in the video as to not use their real names.

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#17 2022-06-09 00:27:51

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Tigerhawk wrote:
Crystal Dragon wrote:

Don't take what I'm about to say as a statement or a solidified opinion, it is a line of questions that I just don't know the answers to. In this situation, the Taygetans have taken direct action against the perpetrators, and even against cabal members who were in league with the perpetrators. Can and will they only do this when their own society is threatened and when ET persons with links to Alcyone council societies are involved? What about the perpetrators of the genocide/reset plan, or the child rapists and murderers who harvest adrenochrome? Does anything go as long as long as their own society isn't threatened by it, or do they take other actions directly on humanity's behalf but it's too sensitive to disclose? Is humanity truly viewed as a civilization that needs help and guidance, or as a problem that needs to be contained?

It would be my guess that the Prime Directive doesn't come into play when defending one's self. It does when dealing with other civilizations. What Starlette was doing was a direct threat to Alenym herself and the Taygetan civilization.

It's also been said before that the biggest problem on Earth is not the controllers, rather the consciousness of humanity as a whole. We are manifesting our own nightmares. If you remove the monsters that run Earth, the consciousness that exists among the population that allowed them to gain that power in the first place is still there. You will only replace one monster with another.

Also, we can't assume to know what the Taygetans have done or haven't done beyond what we get told. None of us would've known about this had the PK girls never attacked Cosmic Agency.

It's true that we can't know for sure what the Taygetans are doing on humanity's behalf, some of it would be sensitive information. The prime directive is a convenient lie that only supports the tyranny. It has been broken by the cabal and regressives too many times to count. Genocide with ET graphene tech is a major breach of the non-existent prime directive. The average person disbelieves in black magic even more than visitation by ET's, yet it is used against them daily by the cabal. Humanity is manifesting what they are being manipulated to manifest by the cabal. Take the cabal away and provide some guidance and mentorship, and humanity would indeed stop manifesting such things. To say otherwise is a cynical and fallacious judgement against the core spirit of humanity and a justification of the oppressors.

The masses are only manifesting what they have been conditioned to accept by underhanded manipulation and control. Take away the bubble, and they will actually be able to observe an alternative to their nightmares. They will actually have a choice. The consciousness of humanity is not inherently regressive, it has been hijacked and entrained by a predatory elite. The biggest problems come from the top down, and they would very much like everyone to believe that the "masses" are the problem. They would very much like everyone to believe that every human being is a sociopath just like them. The "consciousness of humanity as a whole" is imperfect, but it is not to blame for the full extent of the tyranny here. This is exploitation, plain and simple. The forces exploiting them have ET technology and metaphysical knowledge at their disposal which completely nullifies any idea of a "prime directive".

If this was a world where the governments and cabals had the same average technology and lack of metaphysical knowledge as the masses, there would be a solid argument for a "prime directive", and some logical argument that the population was manifesting their own oppression in one way or another. That is not the case here at all. To think that if freed from the cabal, given a choice, and given an example and guidance of the truth, humanity would just manifest another tyranny is failure to see the true value of the human spirit, and failure to see the problem for what it is. That sort of mentality is what keeps the cabal in power. It's a cheap psychological tactic that sociopaths use to control their victims by making the victims believe that they are bad, dirty, and broken and deserve to be treated in such a way. It's pure gaslighting, and as starseeds and observing 5d scoieties that came to help, we need to stop believing it or we will become part of the problem. We need to stop believing that humanity deserves this and that the average person is responsible for all of this. It runs completely counter to our purpose here.

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#18 2022-06-09 01:01:49

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Re: Discussion of Infiltration video published 7th June 2022

Tigerhawk wrote:
Exploringsoul wrote:

Who is Marina? I know Christina and Estella, the 2 girls running the YouTube channel Pleiadian Knowledge.

"Ester" and "Marina" are the names Gosia chose to substitute for Estella and Cristina in the video as to not use their real names.

Thanks. The 2 girls look so innocent.

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#19 2022-06-09 03:38:34

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Crystal Dragon are you familial with the book Animal farm by George Orwell? The book is allegory for liberating people with victim-perpetrator mentality and from victims some become perpetrators and others become even bigger victims. It is written to criticize the communist regime that was established in Russia by Bolsheviks but in the core shows the mentality of the mass and its flaws and to what leads.

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#20 2022-06-09 04:10:45

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It was  chilling to watch the video.  The two hour video had a big impact on me, as the story shows how higher evolved people have more responsibility, more complicated lives, and can be perpetually haunted by soul entanglement.   The strategic plan of Starlet to interact with the two Earth girls, shows the cryptic and sublime effect of war of the minds and consciousness.

Another lesson I learned is that during the high alert emergency, the Taygetans never expected or sought outside help. They immediately got to work and tried to fix the problems before it gets worse.
On the other hand, our humanity are not as mature in times of crisis.  We tend to seeks divine intervention through religions and wishful thinking.  Or we let duality interfere with common sense, and start to blame someone, parents,or another country, another planet, etc.

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#21 2022-06-09 04:25:40

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mitkobs wrote:

Crystal Dragon are you familial with the book Animal farm by George Orwell? The book is allegory for liberating people with victim-perpetrator mentality and from victims some become perpetrators and others become even bigger victims. It is written to criticize the communist regime that was established in Russia by Bolsheviks but in the core shows the mentality of the mass and its flaws and to what leads.

I am familiar with it and have read it and analyzed it thoroughly in high school. It is an over simplified way to look at the Earth situation, taking multiple densities, illegal technologies, hidden knowledge, and the fact that this planet is not a developing civilization but a post-apocalyptic reset world since Atlantis into consideration. I understand the points of that story and how it applies to 3d cycles of tyrants and rebels, rebels becoming tyrants all over again, and so on. Just like the Orion Black League rebellion that I was once a part of more or less became the federation that now tyrannizes this solar system in much the same way that the Orion overlords controlled their empire. The situation of Earth as a whole is much more complex. Even in the context of that story, how would a continuation of oppression help? I say give people a chance to be free, and give them guidance and an example of what's right. If they fail after that and create the same cycle, then they are truly responsible, until then they are simply being manipulated and have never been given a chance. Are we not here to do our best to give them that chance, rather than justifying their oppression?

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#22 2022-06-09 04:51:54

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Do you think that our galactic selves did not experimented already what to what leads. They done it all. They can travel time, observe different scenarios of developing civilizations and intervene in key points. They removed tyrants, changed regimes searching the reasons why the timelines are going in such direction. They know more than we think and seen more than we can figure out right now. This is ongoing battle with the dark side, of preventing the dark side to infiltrate and take over. If they were not concerned about us they will not be around the planet and doing what they do.

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#23 2022-06-09 05:14:12

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mitkobs wrote:

Do you think that our galactic selves did not experimented already what to what leads. They done it all. They can travel time, observe different scenarios of developing civilizations and intervene in key points. They removed tyrants, changed regimes searching the reasons why the timelines are going in such direction. They know more than we think and seen more than we can figure out right now. This is ongoing battle with the dark side, of preventing the dark side to infiltrate and take over. If they were not concerned about us they will not be around the planet and doing what they do.

5d are not gods or angels. They don't even know who they can trust or make reliable contact with. As far as what we experience from 3d, unless they themselves have been immersed or have significant recall of an Earth past life, they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. They have absolutely not "done it all". That is a big part of why they sent people from their civilizations to incarnate here, to learn the truth firsthand through direct experience, precisely because they don't know better than us who are "down here in the trenches". I'm sure that some of them are legitimately concerned about us, but they can make mistakes too. Many are not concerned about us at all, they simply want to run their games and experiments without empathy.

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#24 2022-06-09 05:25:34

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Not talking about everybody in 5D but the most advanced ones like Taygeta. If you have the capabilities and technology they have you will explore as well what is possible and trying to learn more and expand more. This is what they do and that is leading to greater understanding. You will go in all directions and clearing points, making the reasoning, seeing the cause in effect in action. With that they know more than us here in many venues of knowledge and can make better informed decisions for us here who are under a dome of ignorance.

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#25 2022-06-09 05:49:53

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mitkobs wrote:

Not talking about everybody in 5D but the most advanced ones like Taygeta. If you have the capabilities and technology they have you will explore as well what is possible and trying to learn more and expand more. This is what they do and that is leading to greater understanding. You will go in all directions and clearing points, making the reasoning, seeing the cause in effect in action. With that they know more than us here in many venues of knowledge and can make better informed decisions for us here who are under a dome of ignorance.

I don't doubt that those are the intentions of the Taygetans. I don't doubt that they are exploring alternate timelines and things from a non-linear perspective. In some ways, yes, they do know more than us. In other ways, they do not, otherwise they would not immerse members of their society, some who have played very important roles, here on Earth. It takes a merger of those perspectives to get a clearer picture. Starseeds immersed in 3d don't have the full picture, and neither do those who stay in 5d and explore timelines. This is part of why I'm a proponent of greater contact, despite the risks. Reaching out to the masses on Facebook in 2008 was destined for failure. They should have reached out to their own starseeds on an individual basis first and foremost. There are many that are willing to help, some very much so, and those people are limited in their ability to do so based on the actions of idiots and infiltrators. I don't consider myself perfect, but I do not consider myself and other starseeds ignorant. Our first-hand perspective of being here is valuable, otherwise we would have just stayed home.

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