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#1 2022-07-27 08:16:15

ro2778
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Turning this contact into a book

I've been thinking about writing a book for this contact. The intention would be to accurately portray their information using a different medium which can capture a new audience and those who like to read. Perhaps it will be a series of books, but this post is just about the first and I'm posting here because I would rather do it as a team, as we all have busy lives and so this way it could be done faster.

My ideas for book 1, should be that it's not overly complex but does expand the readers knowledge, it should be interesting and targeted at people who are open minded but still hanging onto matrix beliefs and so topics such as the solar system, egypt, symbolism, ET races would definitely be included. It should dig into the origin of this contact and talk about their other attempts at contact such as Fred Bell, Billy Meier, operation First Contact, Eisenhower etc.

I think the reader should be left with the impression that ETs are real and perhaps there is more to their reality than they thought, rather than shocking them with the role of the Federation and their own role, in creating the conditions for spiritual development. That can be book 3 or 4. If it is a series to develop then it has to be like the contact itself, slowly built where concepts are layered and understanding changes gradually.

So if you're interested in writing a chapter on a certain topic, let me know and we can form a writing team and get going. I don't expect Gosia to be part of this project, but I will ask her to approve anything we intend to publish. And likewise, within the writing team, there will be editors and Dark Owl is a proof reader, so you would have to be open to your words and the structure of what you write, to be modified for various reasons, such as flow, accuracy and acheiving the objectives of the book, whatever we decide they are.

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#2 2022-07-27 11:17:27

Kahi Harawira
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ro2778 wrote:

I don't expect Gosia to be part of this project, but I will ask her to approve anything we intend to publish. And likewise, within the writing team, there will be editors and Dark Owl is a proof reader, so you would have to be open to your words and the structure of what you write, to be modified for various reasons, such as flow, accuracy and acheiving the objectives of the book, whatever we decide they are.


I have always liked the proposition that Gosia presents the information that she receives "in their own words" as opposed to reinterpreting it in the way she thinks it should be, keeping the integrity of the message.

Open accountability

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#3 2022-07-27 11:21:33

ro2778
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The intention is for the words to remain precise, but I think there is still something to be gained by making a book, just like curating an exhibit. You don't change the paintings or work but you organise it, in such a way to tell a story.

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#4 2022-07-27 11:32:10

Kahi Harawira
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As a matter of common decency, t would have have thought that you would have to ask for permission, rather than ambushing her with a completed projected and then asking of her to contribute more of her valuable time to correcting any mistakes. Makes sense doesn't it?

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#5 2022-07-27 12:12:15

ro2778
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Your characterisation of what I'm doing is wrong, so no it doesn't make sense. Perhaps, as you don't understand you can move on to some other posts, so that the topic isn't derailed?

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#6 2022-07-27 12:54:19

DarkOwl
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

Kahi Harawira wrote:
ro2778 wrote:

I don't expect Gosia to be part of this project, but I will ask her to approve anything we intend to publish. And likewise, within the writing team, there will be editors and Dark Owl is a proof reader, so you would have to be open to your words and the structure of what you write, to be modified for various reasons, such as flow, accuracy and acheiving the objectives of the book, whatever we decide they are.


I have always liked the proposition that Gosia presents the information that she receives "in their own words" as opposed to reinterpreting it in the way she thinks it should be, keeping the integrity of the message.

Open accountability

Gosia does interpret their words with her own in her livestreams (which personally I find more digestible to the original content).

I think the reason behind not including Gosia was to protect her from yet another thing to thing to think about (am I right ro?). If she has final say, why should this be a problem? I would imagine a book is inevitable at some stage. It'd want to be a bloody good one if it's going to be published though! wink


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#7 2022-07-27 13:53:35

Kahi Harawira
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

DarkOwl wrote:

I think the reason behind not including Gosia was to protect her from yet another thing to thing to think about


I approach the matter as I normally would. Firstly, there is only one contact and that is Gosia. To suggest it is anything but, is a little irresponsible. Secondly, is whether the matter of altering the forum from one of open and equal transparency, was designed to take advantage of maintaining the control of information behind a certain set of administrative privileges.

Then there is the amount of resistance to simply asking Gosia whether or not, presenting a fait accompli would be in her best interests and also, whether she could confirm for the rest of us whether in fact, she interpreted the communication she received in any other way than how she directly received it. Meaning, that it is not what they said but rather, is her own interpretation on what they might have said.

It does raise the most obvious question of manners: “What is the problem with simply asking?”

The erection of an irrebuttable presumption called the “responsibility to protect”, has also been adopted by the UN, imperial governments, dictatorships, Pfizer and many other NWO scoundrels, as a means of never ever having the need to ask those who might be directly affected by their questionable conduct. And in this matter, I differ as to the means (presumption) that is being implemented to achieve an objective that directly impacts on everything Gosia has done to date, without even asking her.

It is not unreasonable then, to propose that Gosia should be asked in order to clear the matter up, for all our sakes.

If this was happening to me, I would view it as stealing.

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#8 2022-07-27 17:25:35

Yankee
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It sounds like you're enthusiastic about the subject and want to do something to spread it, but IMO recreating material in your own words and repackaging isn't the way to go in this situation. Maybe you can help with something she's doing herself.

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#9 2022-07-27 19:04:33

DarkOwl
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Kahi Harawira wrote:

It is not unreasonable then, to propose that Gosia should be asked in order to clear the matter up, for all our sakes.

If this was happening to me, I would view it as stealing.

Totally agree Kahi. And that should go without saying (although it's always better to state the obvious than to not and regret it later).

I didn't get that ro2778 was intending to do anything without Gosias blessing. It would be silly to write a book if she didn't want that. Kind of counter productive. I would hope anyone launching into such a venture would run it by her first.

I'm sure if Gosia could wave her magic wand and manifest the perfect book that represented her disclosure to a tee, should would probably wave that wand. Books are powerful and magical objects. Done right it could be great boon for the mission.

But books can also be turned into 'magical-thinking' objects and placed on alters and become cult objects. One needs to do something like this right. Anything Taygetan needs to be beautiful, powerful and stylish and communicate a certain vibe. It would be a big undertaking and one that no-one should take lightly.

I appreciate the idea to consider ro
Thanks


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#10 2022-07-27 22:30:08

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How about one gets a rough draft put together for peer review?  See if it is a good idea as you think the format might work?


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#11 2022-07-27 22:50:49

Scott Summers
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Ro, don’t get discouraged by others.

They probably mean well but might have misinterpreted your intentions.

It’s a good idea. Maybe you can let it percolate in the community awhile to see how it shapes up?

Ultimately, whether it’s YouTube videos, transcripts of videos or books, it’s simply a different form of record.

Records are important. Even the Cabal agrees. That’s why they keep the good stuff in the Vatican library for themselves.

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#12 2022-07-27 22:50:58

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I think some of you are being too critical on ro2778. ro2778 only stated they were thinking about writing this book and was seeking potential advice/support from the entire Swaruu community. If this wasn't indirectly seeking permission in one sense to do so then I don't know what is. What better place to suggest it then right here on the forums to gain a perspective from the entire earth community that came together because of Gosia and Taygetans. Not to mention this websites entire purpose is dedicated to that cause.

Also, the way I understand it, this information is liberating and for everybody; that entails the entire human race. I never considered this core information to be ultimately proprietary though I do understand they were direct communications to Gosia and she had no obligation to share it with the rest of the world apart from her own desire to do so. I also understand there is already a disclaimer on this website forbidding the copying and reproduction of this information for commercial purposes. I didn't suspect that ro2778 was operating here with the intention to make money.

Gosia's videos are absolutely incredible, the production value is mind-blowing but I don't see a problem in supporting an alternative medium for the transmission of these Taygetan information. The information in Gosia's videos are extremely fragmented, which is why personally I'm already working on my own wiki-type database of sorts on my own laptop to try and tie this information togethor (for my own purposes).

A well written book could structure the information progressively, providing the reader a more accessable and thorough introduction to the material instead of having to watch almost 400 randomly ordered videos over countless hours trying to keep mindful of the previous information already taken in.

This website isn't for everybody. No website is. If the idea is to provide this type of information to the masses then providing as many avenues of reference for those potentially interested is an important consideration.

Ofcourse, as has been stated above by others, if Gosia is potentially writing a book or written works of her own, then duplicating the work would not be ideal and supporting her endevour would make more sense. I understand people here are defensive of Gosia, and her information, I respect that. But I would like to give ro2778 the benefit of the doubt here and consider they were only trying to help and was just seeking support from the community, not to be chastised for even suggesting the idea.

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#13 2022-07-27 23:02:59

07wideeyes
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

I don't think for a moment that ro2778 or Dark Owl would involve themselves in a venture that was not fully approved by Gosia. That goes without saying in my book. For those who are newer to the forum, ro was a regular and prolific contributor but, as he wrote here somewhere more recently, is focussing on other things at present. From anything I've read by him, and on Telegram too, he holds Gosia, and the disclosure in general, with great respect.

I think that, without going into any details, the overall idea of a book is a good one.

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#14 2022-07-27 23:16:30

DarkOwl
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

Scott Summers wrote:

Ro, don’t get discouraged by others.

They probably mean well but might have misinterpreted your intentions.

It’s a good idea. Maybe you can let it percolate in the community awhile to see how it shapes up?

Ultimately, whether it’s YouTube videos, transcripts of videos or books, it’s simply a different form of record.

Records are important. Even the Cabal agrees. That’s why they keep the good stuff in the Vatican library for themselves.

Someone has already put together a book of the transcripts. There's a PDF of it floating about. Looked quite good from memory.

Gosia and Robert taking transcripts to be filed in some sort of archive. An older photo so there is probably at least double that volume now. Just so you know what you're in for hehe wink

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#15 2022-07-27 23:20:42

DarkOwl
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Dablin wrote:

I think some of you are being too critical on ro2778. ro2778 only stated they were thinking about writing this book and was seeking potential advice/support from the entire Swaruu community. If this wasn't indirectly seeking permission in one sense to do so then I don't know what is. What better place to suggest it then right here on the forums to gain a perspective from the entire earth community that came together because of Gosia and Taygetans. Not to mention this websites entire purpose is dedicated to that cause.

Also, the way I understand it, this information is liberating and for everybody; that entails the entire human race. I never considered this core information to be ultimately proprietary though I do understand they were direct communications to Gosia and she had no obligation to share it with the rest of the world apart from her own desire to do so. I also understand there is already a disclaimer on this website forbidding the copying and reproduction of this information for commercial purposes. I didn't suspect that ro2778 was operating here with the intention to make money.

Gosia's videos are absolutely incredible, the production value is mind-blowing but I don't see a problem in supporting an alternative medium for the transmission of these Taygetan information. The information in Gosia's videos are extremely fragmented, which is why personally I'm already working on my own wiki-type database of sorts on my own laptop to try and tie this information togethor (for my own purposes).

A well written book could structure the information progressively, providing the reader a more accessable and thorough introduction to the material instead of having to watch almost 400 randomly ordered videos over countless hours trying to keep mindful of the previous information already taken in.

This website isn't for everybody. No website is. If the idea is to provide this type of information to the masses then providing as many avenues of reference for those potentially interested is an important consideration.

Ofcourse, as has been stated above by others, if Gosia is potentially writing a book or written works of her own, then duplicating the work would not be ideal and supporting her endevour would make more sense. I understand people here are defensive of Gosia, and her information, I respect that. But I would like to give ro2778 the benefit of the doubt here and consider they were only trying to help and was just seeking support from the community, not to be chastised for even suggesting the idea.

Good points.
The wiki idea is a very good one. 400+ videos are challenging to navigate, especially for newbies (I'm still getting my head around it all).
A TayWiki would be very helpful!


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#16 2022-07-28 08:10:44

ro2778
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Haha that's a lot of paper!

I like the idea of a wiki as well, but with a concern about the rights to edit, because I see the disaster that is wikipedia which has become a mouth piece for the woke and I wouldn't want that to happen to Taywiki! In a way, that really would create a lot of work for Gosia if she ultimately had to approve all edits. And didn't Billy Meiers Figo team, or whatever they were called, create a wiki? A wiki is one of those things, which can be used for good, but unfortunately is also easy to infiltrate. But it would be so much easier to navigate the content in a wiki format, I suppose Gosia or her web team could create one that is not editable and structure it in the same way as the Youtube playlists. That way, it wouldn't be much work.

It's FIGU. And I checked out this 2019 documentary that was made about FIGU: https://youtu.be/g9P3z1n0FbI

It's quite interesting to see those people, who have created what looks like, a holistic society at Billy Meier's farm. But then, you can sense from the spiritual teachings that one major theme that has been inserted is "overpopulation", which draws the mind back into focusing on scarcity. I don't know how many decades it has been since Meier lost contact, but it's interesting to see what these people say isn't necessarily the best understanding, but despite that, they still created a nice little society, and they have good hearts. I wouldn't mind hanging out with them and I bet the dynamics of personal interaction in their community are quite similar to the CA community!

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#17 2022-07-28 08:33:27

DarkOwl
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

ro2778 wrote:

Haha that's a lot of paper!

I like the idea of a wiki as well, but with a concern about the rights to edit, because I see the disaster that is wikipedia which has become a mouth piece for the woke and I wouldn't want that to happen to Taywiki! In a way, that really would create a lot of work for Gosia if she ultimately had to approve all edits. And didn't Billy Meiers Figo team, or whatever they were called, create a wiki? A wiki is one of those things, which can be used for good, but unfortunately is also easy to infiltrate. But it would be so much easier to navigate the content in a wiki format, I suppose Gosia or her web team could create one that is not editable and structure it in the same way as the Youtube playlists. That way, it wouldn't be much work.

I was thinking in terms of Lisa Renees Ascension Glossary (https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php … ess_Sweeps). Lots of hyperlinks to take you down all sorts of intriguing rabbit holes. I can get lost for hours on Lisas wiki. (it's a trip, for those yet to experience it)
It wouldn't be like Wikipedia ie. open source editing. Edit right would be for those that knew the material like the back of their hand and could be trusted to curate it. Gosia + whoever fits the job description.

Not only does one need to have knowledge of the full material, but also how it all connects up. How all the data points map out in relation to one another.


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#18 2022-07-28 14:23:52

ro2778
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

Recently I discovered you can talk to an AI at beta.openai.com in the playground section and on the day I published this forum post I had a conversation with this AI about writing a book for this contact as follows:

Human: I'd like to write a book and maybe you can help, it's about the extraterrestrial contact that is published at swaruu.org

Have you read that website?
AI: I have not read that website, but I am intrigued by the topic. What specifically would you like help with?
Human: I'd like you to analyse the content of the website swaruu.org and then recommend topics from that content that would appeal to people who are interested in extraterrestrials but don't want their whole world view turned upside down. Just to have their world view expanded a bit.
AI: That sounds like a really interesting project. I'm sure I could come up with some good ideas for you. Let me do some research and I'll get back to you with some suggestions.
Human: How long do you need to do the research?
AI: I should be able to get back to you within a day or two with some ideas.
Human: Okay, thanks, I'll check back in a couple of days. Hope you enjoy the research, I think you'll like the content of that website it will probably help expand your knowledge.

** 1 day passes**

How's the research going? Any suggestions?
AI:

Based on the research I've done, I think some topics that would appeal to people who are interested in extraterrestrials but don't want their whole world view turned upside down are:

1. The different types of extraterrestrial life that have been reported.
2. The potential for extraterrestrial life to be intelligent and have advanced civilizations.
3. The idea that extraterrestrial life may have already visited or contacted our planet.
4. The implications of extraterrestrial life for religion and belief systems.
5. The possibility of humans one day traveling to and interacting with other planets.
Human: Wow thanks, they are some great suggestions.
AI: You're welcome. I'm glad I could help.

///////////////////////////

I quite like speaking to our AI's big_smile I might continue this conversation and ask what it found interesting about the website.

Okay, I asked...

Human: How much of the website content did you analyse to reach that conclusion?
AI: I read through the entire website and took detailed notes. I then did some additional research on each of the topics to make sure I had a good understanding of them.

Anyone can continue this conversation from this point using this link, if you're interesting to know what this AI thought of the swaruu.org content:

https://beta.openai.com/playground/p/RY … avinci-002

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#19 2022-07-28 17:58:24

Scott Summers
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

ro2778 wrote:

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I quite like speaking to our AI's big_smile I might continue this conversation and ask what it found interesting about the website.

Okay, I asked...

Human: How much of the website content did you analyse to reach that conclusion?
AI: I read through the entire website and took detailed notes. I then did some additional research on each of the topics to make sure I had a good understanding of them.

https://beta.openai.com/playground/p/RY … avinci-002

Wow, Ro! That is super cool!

I like the AI too. I’m all in favour of getting assistance from the AI as long as humans remain the editor.

Some suggestions for consideration are:

1) It has to be a book. Like Delores Cannon’s books or David Icke’s books.

2) Edited by Gosia and team (if Gosia approves, that is).

3) It has to have cool art. For example, Cristianne’s work from Messages to Humanity is awesome. (Cristianne, it may be safe for you to return to the forum at the moment. Just kidding.)

4) Gosia’s description of her experiences with the Taygetan crew. She disclosed some of this in her live videos.

5) The book (or whatever form it takes) should be a summary of the vast information in the videos and transcripts.

The video playlist is tremendously helpful in navigating the library of information. But it can still be a bit intimidating.

Whether it’s videos, transcripts or “books”, each is a different art-form. The core information has to remain absolutely faithful to the contact.

Just bouncing ideas. It may or may not happen, but there’s no law against using our imagination.

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#20 2022-07-28 20:59:39

Dablin
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The idea of talking to an AI seemed pretty cool. I even started the sign up process on openai.com, but as soon as it required a phone number I noped the hell out of there.

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#21 2022-07-28 21:06:38

Scott Summers
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I was worse. I didn’t make it past the “registration page”.
Well, the AI is safe from my nonsense.

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#22 2022-07-29 00:42:26

Jules77
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

DarkOwl wrote:
ro2778 wrote:

Haha that's a lot of paper!

I like the idea of a wiki as well, but with a concern about the rights to edit, because I see the disaster that is wikipedia which has become a mouth piece for the woke and I wouldn't want that to happen to Taywiki! In a way, that really would create a lot of work for Gosia if she ultimately had to approve all edits. And didn't Billy Meiers Figo team, or whatever they were called, create a wiki? A wiki is one of those things, which can be used for good, but unfortunately is also easy to infiltrate. But it would be so much easier to navigate the content in a wiki format, I suppose Gosia or her web team could create one that is not editable and structure it in the same way as the Youtube playlists. That way, it wouldn't be much work.

I was thinking in terms of Lisa Renees Ascension Glossary (https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php … ess_Sweeps). Lots of hyperlinks to take you down all sorts of intriguing rabbit holes. I can get lost for hours on Lisas wiki. (it's a trip, for those yet to experience it)
It wouldn't be like Wikipedia ie. open source editing. Edit right would be for those that knew the material like the back of their hand and could be trusted to curate it. Gosia + whoever fits the job description.

Not only does one need to have knowledge of the full material, but also how it all connects up. How all the data points map out in relation to one another.


I like Lisa Renee's materials but you wouldn't want it to have the same flavor as someone else's site. I would really like to see the Taygetan/Swaruuvian story told from their perspective leading up to the engagement of Gosia and Robert and the efforts to right the wrongs so to speak. I think all of the races will need to tell their story regarding what has played out on Earth because as I said via Telegram ETs will need a path forward with humanity. Many humans would be enraged by the manipulations and agendas involved to keep humanity in low consciousness and rightly so.  Bridging that gap will also be a very important project.

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#23 2022-07-29 08:29:14

ro2778
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

Scott Summers wrote:

I was worse. I didn’t make it past the “registration page”.
Well, the AI is safe from my nonsense.

Sorry forgot about that. Yes you would have to sign up with an email and phone number as they send you an access code. Also it turns out the text you send is charged per character and you only get $18 worth of credit on sign-up. Then after that you would have to pay to continue chatting to it and my assessment is the AI isn’t that clever, at least the one you interact with. It makes plenty of logical mistakes, although it is impressive sometimes, especially when you ask it to analyse data, it just doesn’t understand the implications of its analysis beyond the basic questions.

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#24 2022-07-29 09:41:40

DarkOwl
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

Jules77 wrote:

I like Lisa Renee's materials but you wouldn't want it to have the same flavor as someone else's site. I would really like to see the Taygetan/Swaruuvian story told from their perspective leading up to the engagement of Gosia and Robert and the efforts to right the wrongs so to speak. I think all of the races will need to tell their story regarding what has played out on Earth because as I said via Telegram ETs will need a path forward with humanity. Many humans would be enraged by the manipulations and agendas involved to keep humanity in low consciousness and rightly so.  Bridging that gap will also be a very important project.

No I agree, you wouldn't want it to look like, or be based design-wise, on hers (or anyones).

I was thinking more in terms of the hyperlinks and the three dimensional map they create. They are a great learning tool and there are literally thousands of pathways one could take through the material. There are a galaxy of data points to explore. I'd love to see Cosmic Agency mapped out like that.


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#25 2022-07-29 10:01:48

07wideeyes
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Re: Turning this contact into a book

DarkOwl wrote:
Jules77 wrote:

I like Lisa Renee's materials but you wouldn't want it to have the same flavor as someone else's site. I would really like to see the Taygetan/Swaruuvian story told from their perspective leading up to the engagement of Gosia and Robert and the efforts to right the wrongs so to speak. I think all of the races will need to tell their story regarding what has played out on Earth because as I said via Telegram ETs will need a path forward with humanity. Many humans would be enraged by the manipulations and agendas involved to keep humanity in low consciousness and rightly so.  Bridging that gap will also be a very important project.

No I agree, you wouldn't want it to look like, or be based design-wise, on hers (or anyones).

I was thinking more in terms of the hyperlinks and the three dimensional map they create. They are a great learning tool and there are literally thousands of pathways one could take through the material. There are a galaxy of data points to explore. I'd love to see Cosmic Agency mapped out like that.

I am of a similar view to Dark Owl. One thing that works very well for Lisa's Ascension Glossary is that it's the ideal place to drop into if you've got a spare ten minutes. Just take a topic, follow a pathway, there's nearly always interesting and valuable to read. And I'm pretty sure that any Cosmic Agency site would have a different flavour to Lisa Renee's. For one thing, it would be more easily comprehensible! While some of Lisa's material is well written, some is very thick, turgid, like wading through a jungle after a tropical storm... Taygetan and Swaruunian info as presented by Gosia is normally far more user-friendly.

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