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#1 2022-09-08 09:21:59

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Exposition of narcissism

In brief what exactly is narcissism and what are the differences between narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy.

Narcissism is maniacal grandiose egocentric behavior and exclusive self gratification. A narcissist lacks empathy, narcissist is self entitled and always seek validation.
Other people for a such ego maniac are regarded as tools(for use), competition, enemies and nobodies(objects of contempt), even the people in own family are seen this way.

A narcissist is ready to do almost anything to other people for the sake of own self interest. Still may feel guilty and have remorse after going over other people. May have some kind of relative morals. 

Sociopath is a narcissist who become such during his life, for example life conditions as a child in abusive family of lack of family made him/her this way.

Psychopath is born a narcissist. Psychopath do not have morals and do not feel guilt and remorse. Psychopath do not have conscience. If such person have some self awareness and if is been honest when asked why is murdered people will have explanation and excuse but those will not fit as excusable according to law, sense of justice and sense of compassion.

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#2 2022-09-08 21:31:07

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

As usual Teal Swan has an excellent video on narcissism.


"In today's terms, narcissism means to derive gratification from vanity or egotistical admiration of one's own attributes. It is seen as a form of self-defeating pride. This is not a viewpoint that Teal agrees with. Teal explains that the most important thing when it comes to understanding narcissism is to separate self-love from selfishness. Most people think that narcissism is an extreme form of self-love. It is not. In fact, narcissism has nothing to do with self-love. It has to do with someone who perceives an extreme lack of self-sustaining resources, like love. In this episode of Ask Teal, Teal explains narcissism in depth. She then explains how a narcissist can find healing and what to do if you have attracted a narcissist into your llife"

Narcissism - Teal Swan

(Also Mitkobs this is the 1000th topic. Congratulations!!! You won a free cruise to Floston Paradise. https://youtube.com/watch?v=OGfYLRCJZ1c )

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#3 2022-09-09 03:29:08

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I appreciate your sense of humor Jupiter.

Yes, narcissists do not love themselves, they do not know what is love. May think that love is sex or going after own desires. They do not have spiritual side(may simulate of having). To be loving have to be spiritual.

For everything about Narcissism explained in great details can recommend Dr. Ramani - https://www.youtube.com/c/DoctorRamani

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#4 2022-09-09 08:03:04

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Yes, the perspectives provided by Mitkobs and by Teal Swan via Jupiter both have their place. If we ask the question 'What is a narcissist really, deep down?' then Teal's the person. But if we are dealing with what presents itself to us in a more general way, for example somebody in Hollywood, then recognising their destructive personality and calling it for what it is, not to get deceived and manipulated, then what Mitkobs writes is a god warning.

Personally, I am a bit of a softie, and dwelling too much on the damaged and traumatised depths of psychopaths isn't the route I take. If they express any wish for healing, any recognition of their wounded condition, then it's rather different. But if I go to George Soros or Hillary Clinton and suggest they go see Teal Swan to deal with their traumas, I probably won't get very far. Actually, there's no reason I should be more concerned about the emotional health of Soros than of the woman who works on the check-out in the supermarket, is there?

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#5 2022-09-09 08:45:01

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The term narcissist is polite way of calling somehow people who are evil. Someone that is perceived as evil because we recognize they are responsible for certain detrimental actions against us or against the society. And we wonder why they do it. Why someone will agree for example for some amount of money to participate in mass poisoning of people. What kind of person have to be to be OK with participating in mass murder or in mass deceive or in mass theft.

Before the term narcissist may had been used for people who are only egocentric, people who love their outlook, loving their image in the mirror to the point of blind self admiration. And they cannot accept that someone else is better than them in the regard of their self admiration. This is for me comical when I see such people, they are so self absorbed. They can talk only about themselves, never ask how you feel, how your things are going, never want to hear your opinion except if you praise them validating their manias.

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#6 2022-09-09 19:55:11

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This is part of a write up I did on another forum part of an exposition on ethics and morality of non profits.  It may be applicable here:

I had to add this section. I have struggled with the wording signifigantly...

Good and Evil

All the above said. What defines good and evil? Is one born evil or good? Does location, ethnicity, or creed determine good or bad?

No, we are all born equal with a blank slate. The experiences of our lives fill our slate and determine our perception of good and evil. ie, prejudice and hate are instilled, not innate

But what happens if what we view as good is actually evil and evil is actually good?

Generally good means to be someone that is efficient, useful, or beneficial to others. Evil generally means being morally bad or causing harm or misfortune. Being bad is not the same as being bad as being bad implies being of poor or inferior quality. Being mean or cruel is to lack consideration and niceties for others. Leibniz says that there ar e three forms of evil in the world: moral, physical/natural, and metaphysical.

So what does this all mean? Good and evil are the results of ones actions and fruits of their labor from the view point of others, and is not an internally applied term. But since the benefit or lack thereof is the defining trait of good versus evil, the social contract and ability to adhere to it determines what one is, and sadly such a definition means good and evil and their applicable definition varies based upon location, culture, time period, and intrapersonal relationships. Feelings do not define good and evil, but can be used to justify one or the other by an offender.

Matthew 7:1(NIV) puts it best: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. So basically the moment you judge someone, you must come to terms with how to proceed next. Or as Edmund Burke may or may not have put it(attriubtion and origins outside of him are of scholarly debate,) "The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing."

But how do you confront evil?
The Bible:
Ephesians 6:10-18 (NIV)
The Armor of God
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,
15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

Your bible version may vary slightly on wording.

Most scriptural references state you are to confront evil, and once that is done it is upon the evil doer to change. Just be prepared for violence as some tend to get physical when confronted. Generally reference how to deal with toxic and mean people when trying to figure out how to handle or address an evil or mean person.


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#7 2022-09-10 03:19:40

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According to Yazhi evil is subjective and is everyone who is against our personal or communal interests.

Then comes another problem. The personal interest and the communal interest.
It changes with changing own vibration in spiritual progression.

When in low vibration the interest tend to be egocentric and everyone in this sense try to pull the blanket only for them to have it and without consideration that other may need it too. And they call each other evil because see others interfering in their interests.

When we are expanding spiritually we tend to become stronger as group and people are unified under spiritual and universal truths, so called higher ideals. And such bonds are indestructible because you know Who You Are. And everyone regressive who try to interfere in this sacred union is seen as regressive, as someone without knowledge, someone blind who is confronting because is blind for the more expanded version of the reality.

And there are also beings - tulpas, who are created out of darkness and they do not know anything else than survival. They live in fear, see everyone as enemies and only way to have a bit of peace for them is to dominate, to have power and control. Which is extreme regressive. So they are born this way - psychopaths, evil. They do not know anything better. Never seen a good example in their miserable lives.

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#8 2022-09-10 06:04:04

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So what are these tulpas psychopaths, how they are created from Darkness. The first lie, the first theft, the first murder, the first infidelity, the first pride, sloth, lust, wrath, envy, the seven sins. This is how they are created. They correspond to one or a group of these sins/dark passions/. Then exponentially this thing had gained momentum and becoming significant and threatening to everyone involved, who allowed to themselves such passions and allowed to themselves to lie, steal, murder and so on.
Every dark passion have its own top demonical entities and an army of followers and is living because the real people are indulging in these passions. For the demonical part is parasitizing. For the real souls is suffering because they are the main target of these parasites. They in the first place created them so have to deal with them. And the only way is to change themselves, to decide not to indulge more in these passions and learn to live more harmoniously.   

This is only a theory of mine, not pretending of the whole truth.

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#9 2022-09-10 10:27:29

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Agree. In another words the tulpa is the answer to such negative energies. You make choice to become wrathful then Source is giving you a mirror image of your own wrath as a being that can challenge you for the consequences of your wrath. And that goes with everything else in this lane of thought.

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#10 2022-09-10 11:06:01

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Infinity is everything, infinity contains everything possible. You make a choice, and like you said all is already there created(there is no time or space), but your choice is bringing your attention to what is already there. We are perfect match to our behavior-beliefs-values-deeds.

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#11 2022-09-10 16:31:04

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Congratulations !!! mitkobs. It's the 1000th post of the English forum and, and your 1000th post !!!

Surprise. You win an extraordinary trip to the City of a Thousand Planets.
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#12 2022-09-10 19:38:28

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mitkobs wrote:

According to Yazhi evil is subjective and is everyone who is against our personal or communal interests.

Then comes another problem. The personal interest and the communal interest.
It changes with changing own vibration in spiritual progression.

When in low vibration the interest tend to be egocentric and everyone in this sense try to pull the blanket only for them to have it and without consideration that other may need it too. And they call each other evil because see others interfering in their interests.

When we are expanding spiritually we tend to become stronger as group and people are unified under spiritual and universal truths, so called higher ideals. And such bonds are indestructible because you know Who You Are. And everyone regressive who try to interfere in this sacred union is seen as regressive, as someone without knowledge, someone blind who is confronting because is blind for the more expanded version of the reality.

And there are also beings - tulpas, who are created out of darkness and they do not know anything else than survival. They live in fear, see everyone as enemies and only way to have a bit of peace for them is to dominate, to have power and control. Which is extreme regressive. So they are born this way - psychopaths, evil. They do not know anything better. Never seen a good example in their miserable lives.

That was also a conclusion I came to and found as well and you are not wrong.

Morality or evil really is subjective. 

All together evil is generally defined as going against the public good.

One must be careful however as utilitarianism, "for the greater good," type thought processes are not used as that is how evil itself can convince and justify others to join them in being evil.

This in part is why I think the higher dimensional beings do not involve themselves, generally speaking, in the lower planes.  Any involvement would literally lower their frequency and affect them personally.

Most of my conclusive reading has been to banish anyone with a significantly lower frequency that has no capacity to up their frequency, ie be able to change for the betterment of ones self.

I would also add it is not to say to become a hermit and abscond all social contact, it is more to vet everything carefully, skillfully, and willfully to ensure you are not involved in any unneccessary entanglements that could lower your frequency.


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#13 2022-09-11 04:14:12

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The most evil think they are right for what they do. Some of them might think they do good with doing the most cruel things one can imagine. From their narrow point of view, the point of view of a narcissistic ego-personality they are right. But if the most cruel thing is done to you, you will not excuse them for doing it. You will want justice and will want explanation why. From a bit higher perspective justice is always served automatically one way or another and there is total explanation of all possible scenarios why one is doing cruel things.

Evil people can twist the most higher notions and to make them serve their cause. They for example twist divine Love and everyone can see what kind of low vibration significance is given to it by them. They can take whatever virtue and twist it, mask it, blackened it, making it to look another way and serve low vibration purposes. This is the moral relativism. If it serves me is moral, if do not is not moral.

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#14 2022-09-11 08:05:20

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

So, could what we loosely term non-emotional races be referred to as psychopaths? Are Maitre, generally speaking, hive-mind psychopaths?

I notice that David Icke uses the word 'psychopath' a lot. However, the Swaruus employ the word rarely - if at all?

'Psychopath' seems to be a term that only makes sense for 'emotional races'. It denotes entities that function in a way that is aberrant to the ways of emotional beings. The problem is that non-emotional beings, being non-emotional, have no feeling for the hurt, harm, and distress they cause to emotional beings. Therefore they consider it fair game to interfere with, invade, inflict cruelty on, other races. This is the problem with the non-emotional.

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#15 2022-09-11 09:11:22

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Every living being with neurological system that is broadcasted by Source experience pain when is wounded or will not stay living for long.

if you cut a non emotional ET will bleed and will have pain. Psychopath lacks empathy. Psychopath will suffer and bleed like everyone else but will not be considering if others are suffering and bleeding. That is the difference in my opinion. 

Some ET's might turned themselves into robots or semi-robots and may not have any feelings and emotions of pain and suffering. With them when something is not right will be a malfunctioning, not pain, something in the circuits boards and internal electronic systems.

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#16 2022-09-11 19:25:41

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07wideeyes wrote:

So, could what we loosely term non-emotional races be referred to as psychopaths? Are Maitre, generally speaking, hive-mind psychopaths?

I notice that David Icke uses the word 'psychopath' a lot. However, the Swaruus employ the word rarely - if at all?

'Psychopath' seems to be a term that only makes sense for 'emotional races'. It denotes entities that function in a way that is aberrant to the ways of emotional beings. The problem is that non-emotional beings, being non-emotional, have no feeling for the hurt, harm, and distress they cause to emotional beings. Therefore they consider it fair game to interfere with, invade, inflict cruelty on, other races. This is the problem with the non-emotional.

It is more of an issue of perception.  THe higher level beings do not engage for they know that no matter what they do someone gets affected in a non positive way at some point. 

They can be above emotions but if they are on a higher plane they understand interactions will cause some reaction, possibly pain, and even if that is to improve things the lower level beings do not understand why and it really causes a malfunction.

The whole Psychopathy with non-emotional beings I really think applies to hive mind like consicousnesses and lower planer beings that removed emotions from their existences.  These are typcically the beings the cabal and what not use to ill gotten ends against us.  Usage of it or excessive usage means that those beings are interfereing or have interactions with you in some manner.  And usually it means you have negative energy influences in your existential plane somewhere...

that is why higher plane beings do not interfere and are very, very selective when they do so.  The Swaruus do not use if at all as they are above it but have enough lower planar understandings that they avoid it at all costs as their goal is to raise frequencies, not lower them.


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#17 2022-09-12 04:35:22

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Higher beings do not interfere directly because they see the bigger picture, they see the future and beyond this future, way ahead. They know that all is in control and predestined in ways. They care a lot about us being here in the pit and that is the only thing why they still try to interfere invisibly. They do not want us to fall in vibration and to suffer unnecessarily and are making everything possible from their side.

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#18 2022-09-12 13:49:43

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Little expanding on the benevolent non emotional star races. They are not completely non emotional but more reserved in expressing emotion. This may happened like with Andromedans because of the strong belief in karma, because emotion is a creative force and negative emotions can be a downfall. So they made themselves to be less emotional in order not to do mistakes with sudden expressing of emotion. And emotion becomes rationalized. They know what is joy, what is sorrow, what is love and are fallowing internally what these indicators are showing, just do not express it, do not show it on the face(and body language). They may laugh within but without actually making sounds and grimaces of laughing. And you never know if they are laughing or they are content, always with a poker face. In 5D there is telepathic connection and thus you can sense other beings mood when they do not express emotions and do not talk with voice.

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#19 2022-09-12 16:00:35

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Benevolence could be a choice, a way to live.

Maybe is hard to imagine and accept how they are able not to express emotions because for us is something natural. It comes hand in hand with the thinking mind. For them is rationalizing everything.

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#20 2022-09-15 07:47:07

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What is evil. I put more thought on it and here's another way of seeing it. It's the violence. Violence is to force physically or mentally other beings with free will to go your way, to do your things without their conscious clear consent. Violence is a very broad term for all kind of abuse.

Then good is to respect other beings free will and their choices and wishes.

But that is not all. When the beings cannot make many own choices due to lack of consciousness others who have more consciousness can take role to guide them. That do not make them evil. It is depending to what they guide them, what will be the result of the guiding. If leads to their deterioration, falling in vibration, regressing then is evil and if leads to their expanding in consciousness is good.

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#21 2022-09-16 04:40:24

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Narcissist likes to manipulate ruthlessly for the sake of own good. One of the ways they manipulate is with gaslighting. Gaslighting is to manipulate the reality of other people. They gaslight with lying, misdirection, denial and contradiction. The result of gaslighting is to make you doubt in your own reality. When they do gaslighting on naïve, unsecure and unstable people on regular basis they can make people literally psychotic and crazy, believing in a reality that is not real. 

For example the most striking one - the plandemic. With cabal mass medias of lies and deception they done it on a global scale. Made believe billions of people there is a super deadly disease on the loose in order to poison people with their cure vax. Media is used generally for this, to shape the reality in mass. Gaslighting on mass scale is also known as propaganda.

Every narcissist do it when they are manipulating. If you caught them doing it and call them out they will become very angry at you and lash out on you in many ways. They may blame you, call you names, shouting at you, not letting you to speak and explain, and deflecting from the theme of conversation. They do that almost intuitively and naturally in order to conceal their lies and the whole operation of manipulation.

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#22 2022-09-17 06:30:35

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Let's get back to the nature kingdom and animals. Is the predator animals evil when they violently kill other animals for food? They are made this way, to be predators and they need to eat. They cannot eat vegetations. They do not have choice. They are constricted in their reality to be predators.

What is the difference - again with humans who act like predators and excusing themselves with bringing as defense the natural kingdom. Humans have choices and they can eat plants and be totally fine and healthy. We as humans are not constricted like the animals are. We can live without violence, with 0 violence and all can be fine for everyone. But for that to be possible values and morals have to change.

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#23 2022-09-17 18:38:43

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mitkobs wrote:

Let's get back to the nature kingdom and animals. Is the predator animals evil when they violently kill other animals for food? They are made this way, to be predators and they need to eat. They cannot eat vegetations. They do not have choice. They are constricted in their reality to be predators.

What is the difference - again with humans who act like predators and excusing themselves with bringing as defense the natural kingdom. Humans have choices and they can eat plants and be totally fine and healthy. We as humans are not constricted like the animals are. We can live without violence, with 0 violence and all can be fine for everyone. But for that to be possible values and morals have to change.

A great question.  And as far as my readings go and my limited understanding is that good is generally defined as benefitting a group of people the person is around and associates with, evil is harming, impairing, or otherwise stopping said area and group from being positive and productive.

Now some animals like to play with their food or prey.  Some could call that choosing to be evil rather than going in for a quick painless kill.  To that I would say there is not much difference from humans as an analogy.  And even in herds and packs there are pecking orders and social structures and sometimes even it goes wonky in groups with animals with no human interactions. 

Take cats for example, they are buttholes.  And we know that the egyptian dieties were not cats as all the Egyptian monuments are still standing.

A human is born as a blank slate and at that moment after birth we are all born equal.  It is EVERYTHING that happens afterwards that makes us all unique and different growth wise.  Evil does not understand what evil is if all they know is evil.  That is why there is the story of Sodom and Gamorra, they did not understand their wickedness and were destroyed as a result as a message to others if wickedness and evil is not constrained. 

If one is only surrounded by good and has no concept of evil, when they run into evil and depravity, such a person could get preyed upon and worse yet murdered. 

It is all about upbringing really and it is about what I like to call cultural maturity and cultural evolution.  Culture is separate from race, but typically it is tied in origins as coming from a specific race of peoples.  As such it is possible for a person to grow up in a culture that has racial ties to a specific group and in actions, manners, speech you can not tell the difference of race, so culture is not racial it is a group dynamic.


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#24 2022-09-17 20:08:31

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

We are not born blank slates and equals. There is a history of experiences that is us prior the incarnation and we take it with us.

Animals can be cruel yes, but is it a choice or simple lack of empathy toward the prey. Eagle when eating a snake do not kill it first, and the snake wiggles in pain while being eaten alive piece by piece. The snake itself is not merciful towards its own prey. Injecting all kind of nasty venoms that is killing sometimes slowly and painfully the victim. And swallowing it the whole alive or not afterwards. They are not evil, they are made this way. They may seem cruel but from our point of view.

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#25 2022-09-18 05:57:39

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mitkobs wrote:

We are not born blank slates and equals. There is a history of experiences that is us prior the incarnation and we take it with us.

Animals can be cruel yes, but is it a choice or simple lack of empathy toward the prey. Eagle when eating a snake do not kill it first, and the snake wiggles in pain while being eaten alive piece by piece. The snake itself is not merciful towards its own prey. Injecting all kind of nasty venoms that is killing sometimes slowly and painfully the victim. And swallowing it the whole alive or not afterwards. They are not evil, they are made this way. They may seem cruel but from our point of view.

That history of experiences is lost sometime once we are part of the matrix long enough.  It can be regained with proper mental exercises in life later.  In that you are correct.  My statement is more for the unawakened and not really relavent heare and in fact completely contradictory.  My approach on things has allowed me to slowly spark awakeness in others and foster a thirst in growth and knowledge in the arena that this group is all about. 

regaining the information of prior incarnations is a journey many try to undertake, but never enough do it.


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