What would trigger the Overseers to take action?

Luckyleaf · 2022-10-28 10:48:37

You consider than that everybody is an equal, cabal-like or not, that they deserve infinite chances to reform themselves, at the expense of this bloody experience on the collective. Starseeds are here for the ones that perhaps have narcissistic traits, but not full blown narcs or psycopaths. These, even after many reicarnations, are renitent in their behaviour. Do you think it's right for this whole history to continue unabated, as if desired by the entire source?...

You are twisting my words with your simplistic view. These disordered people that in covert or not so covert ways attack and destroy their own lineage, not only employees etc. Even when you try to expose narcissism, you consider them to be acceptable as to deserve endless chances... Nonsense! With another quarantine, these monsters will have a place where they can recognize themselves and learn, and Earth will have a boundary against them. They only see us as an worthless thing, so they have to learn within their equals, which we aren't in their eyes... Their learning curve is over here, and the sacrifices are useless. They'll do the killing among themselves... And then here peace can be possible again.

mitkobs · 2022-10-28 12:12:55

You do not understand how treacherous the cabal can be. Say GF decide to intervene and to eliminate them, cabal will target first the civilian population(use them as human shields as well) with their weapons of mass destruction. GF will eliminate the cabal eventually but many ordinary people who do not signed to die this way will die, probably with millions and in horrible way.

I am aware that some of the regressives will not change and do not want to change. They want to be evil and to live to create chaos and suffering but others want this whole nonsense to end. Exactly for them, for everyone who have chance to beat this matrix we are here and we are trying to help.

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Luckyleaf · 2022-10-28 13:03:29

I'm aware that CA focus on the lower federation level, but if we are to be effective helpers we must abide to Gaia's decision to ascend. If, her being the mother planet and knowing very well when enough is enough, we must agree that she'll finally give up on the role of the most patient quarantine that is. And if we agree that are beings that cannot ascend together with her, another quarantine must be created to house these retards. I've read about a special quarantine, where good, decent beings won't have to worry about securing it. The creator can manifest everything right?, if it's for the highest good. The solution isn't limited to this lower level of action. If we are to allow the new future in, we need to accept this step. I don't know if it's possible to envision practically how this will be done, but the principle at least, if correct, will manifest.

But it's a good point to admit there are two parties that cannot convive together, the solution begins there. Yes, we are here for the ones that still have the chance to be saved/ save themselves. Many insist to enmesh everybody which seems to be the regressives' goal, to promote lack of discernment with the l&l cult. Not everybody is meant to follow Gaia.

mitkobs · 2022-10-28 13:17:31

We do not know many things. We can only speculate and this conversion is speculation. First does Gaia able to want for herself something or she is serving as a mirror to the beings that live in her realities. Maybe she is already ascended with being multidimensional entity of 12 densities. Or those are only assumptions of mine and she is not 12 density being and she can ascend and she can want things for her own. We do not know for sure. Swaruu and Yazhi clearly say that the planet serve as mirror to us, nothing else. She is not a person and do not have desires. She as version of Source have everything.

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Jupiter 9 · 2022-10-28 18:30:16

Colins wrote:

Please note that what we are interested in understanding is, when do or what will trigger the highly-evolved benevolent races to act and assist, on their own volition, when they see a planet or its inhabitants at a clear disadvantage or at a high risk of extinction? Is there a galactic or universal policy or law even as to when to act accordingly?

There is no simple answer to this, the Terrestrial "3D" realm is a complex issue. This is not a simple matter of a highly advanced malevolent ET race invading and enslaving a less evolved race. This is an artificially isolated and managed realm that is being artificially kept in a lower state by the Federation itself, for various purposes, and it's not a simple matter of a malevolent race interfering with an evolving civilization.

The Federation is the main controller of everything that is happening on the Terrestrial matrix. The malevolent regressive off-world ETs are just opportunistic parasitic races who find holes in the quarantine and cooperate with the cabal and the underground parasitic races on Earth. The regressive ET races are not the main problem here, the Federation can deal with them in a matter of weeks if they decided to.

The main problem from what I understand so far is that ETs and other "souls" from higher dimensions are using this realm to "play" these "sick" self abusive game for soul evolution purposes and according to some sources not all of them are done and not all the "players" involved agree on ending this "game" and moving towards a natural holistic society and returning back to our natural "5D" Lyrian state.

Athena: "[...]The Federation has isolated Earth as a self-contained, technologically isolated (by a high energy dome) and mentally information wise isolated planetary realm, artificially kept in a lower state of consciousness and awareness to ensure a certain type of experience for the people or inhabitants within it. [...]"

Athena: "[...] The basic idea, although there could be innumerable interpretations, is to create a specific set of hard experiences with which to foment self-growth of the individuals inside it, with it fomenting the expansion of consciousness of its members and of the entire Universe all the way to Source itself.
[...]"

(From the transcript: Galactic Federation - What Is It? Taygeta (Pleiades) and Federation - Mutual Accusations (Swaruu X))

From what I understand so far what will trigger the Federation's intervention is, if the inhabitants (humans or reptilians) start using technologies that are capable of destroying the "school". Like nuclear weapons that also interfere with other densities beyond the Terrestrial "3D".

Another thing that would trigger intervention is if the inhabitants are about to destroy the biology of the planet.

And they will also not allow the Terrestrial human race to go extinct. But they will not intervene even if real bioweapons are used that genocide the population and only leave a few thousand humans alive. They will only intervene if the terrestrial human race is about to go extinct completely.

And technically if an off-world parasitic ET race shares highly advanced technology through holes in the quarantine, like the advanced atomic scale nanotechnology used in the papayas, that should technically trigger some form of intervention.

Now as far as assistance there is already assistance behind the scenes but this realm is in such a bad shape and such a mess that more behind the scenes interventions are needed if there is an agreement for the birth of a new Terran "5D" interstellar civilization and species.

And the main "tool" that the benevolent ETs are using to assist this realm, is sending Starseeds to assist the inhabitants with their spiritual ethical and moral evolution so they can liberate themselves.

Jupiter 9 · 2022-10-28 18:31:54

Another important point is that there are intervention protocols and policies, like the Prime Directive, but those are not universal laws, those are policies. Each ET race acts primarily according to their own ethics and free decisions and not according to space laws. From what I understand the space laws and treaties are mainly agreements and rules of engagement and cooperation between the ETs and not decisions and orders of someone else they have to follow.

There is no law, not even universal laws, that free sovereign people HAVE to follow. Each person individually and each ET race collectively is free to make their own decisions according to their own values and ethics and understanding and interpretation of the so called universal laws. They don't operate according to terrestrial pyramidal political structures, they operate according to the holistic society political model.

So each ET race makes their own decision about how to act and assist in this situation, but since this is not a matter involving a single race but countless races they each have their own approach and are not in agreement up there about what should be done with the terrestrial mess.

And the Federation races involved operate through councils and they have to reach an unanimous agreement and as we know from this disclosure, there are serous disagreements between more emotional temperamental races and more cold logical races about how the Earth situation should be handled.

Colins wrote:

And I would like to know from the Taygetans and Swaruunians if the earth and humanity fall within the context explained in the 2nd paragraph.

For a more in depth understanding of the perspective of the Taygetans and Swaruunians about this, I would recommend to read/watch all the federation related transcripts/videos(there is a playlist on YouTube).

These are the two transcripts where Queen Alenym talks about the exo-political situation regarding the earth situation:

Galactic Federation and New World Order - More Truth (Extraterrestrial Communication - Taygeta)

Exopolitics with Alenym of Temmer - Liberation of the Earth does NOT work as people expect

mitkobs · 2022-10-29 05:50:16

Luckyleaf, everything is a living being because everything is consciousness. A stone is a living being. Stone is different living being than what we are for example. And what means empty mirror? We are talking about something huge(probably infinite), marvelous, something intricate and mysterious, our planet Earth. Something that can hold within infinite realities, infinite versions of its own and all to exists simultaneously. It is full of life, innumerable things are happening within its realms in every single moment. This cannot be called empty, it is abundance of life, abundance of interactions, unity of all kind of consciousnesses.

I gave it a bit of thought and this is what came up. The planet is version of Source. The planet is part of the solar system and solar system is part of the galaxy and galaxy is part of the universe. Everything including us the humans is part of something else bigger/greater or smaller and the Everything is like a fabric, integral, together as one wholeness. We divide things in our mind, see them as something individual detached from the other things, but they are not. Things only seems detached. They cannot exists detached, they exist because of the the whole fabric IS. A thread exist to make the fabric whole and fabric as a whole is whole because encompasses all the threads that consist the fabric. Can you see the bigger picture.

The planet is for what? It do not exists for itself but for everything that can live in its realms. The mirroring effect is natural thing happening because all is Source. We also are mirrors to each other. Why else you want to have relationships and interactions with other people. Why you want family, why you want to be close and intimate with someone, why you want to have kids. We want all this because we are one and the same being but currently divided by self imposed mental illusions and traps. But we yearn to be together, as whole, as complete. This is for what life is living, to experience its wholeness and completeness. Every being is living not only for itself but for the whole and is not possible to live completely by its own. Think about that carefully.

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Colins · 2022-10-29 06:25:19

On October 23, 2022, at 05:35 PM CET, the following info was received through the Universal Logos.

The higher worlds have already been cleansed from the demonic presence, but it is still strong in denser dimensions, including Earth, from where it tries to spread its metastases to the entire Local Universe.

Light Forces of different parts of the Galaxy got permission to act by all means to save Earth and humanity, and destroy the parasitic system.

Strategy and tactics have changed. On the physical and Subtle Planes, surgical intervention on Earth has become more targeted and pinpointed. The signal to eliminate the distraught creatures is being executed everywhere.

Decision-making centers of negative forces, military facilities, including strategic ones, are taken under strict control. Systems, threatening piece (peace?!?), are blocked and disabled to weaken Dark-Gray Forces.

The people turned into zombies are a separate problem. They do not know compassion, and only obediently follow orders, without thinking about the consequences. The indulgences that were previously given to some egregores are ended.

Everyone will have to answer. Finally and irrevocably, the irreconcilable will be moved to an isolated and carefully guarded enclave. There, they will have to undergo severe re-education.

The increasing interference in Earthly events is caused by the fact that Cosmic Laws do not always help to keep situation under control. At each level, unmanageable areas emerge and remain, that prevents the transition from the Third Universe to the Fourth.

The Absolutes set just such a task. Its implementation requires acting more decisively. And the key point is Earth.

This is clearly recognized on the highest levels of the Universe. The equation of Absolutes needs speedy implementation, especially when the confrontation of creative and destructive forces has reached a critical point.

The decision to localize and neutralize Dark-Gray Forces on Earth, who have turned it into their main stronghold, has been made and is being actively fulfilled. And as quickly as possible so that not to do it in the entire Local Universe.

Sifting
From 3D To 4D And 5D
By Lev
(excerpts)

https://www.disclosurenews.it/sifting-f … nd-5d-lev/

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Luckyleaf · 2022-10-29 07:50:33

(function based phrases,
"She is not a person and do not have desires."... " The planet is for what? It does not exist for itself" ...)

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mitkobs · 2022-10-29 09:09:43

The individual thing may be something like a survival mechanism. When you are alone, when you feel deserted(The matrix is giving this illusion or effect), when your needs will not be satisficed without you do something about them, when you have to fend for yourself as separate entity. Because the environment is created to be hostile for living. And we are limited by many ways first and the most by the Van Allan installation and then by our illusions and last and not the least by the cabal.

We are compelled to take care for our physical body naturally and because no one else will care for it comes this ego thing on the line. But of course all is an illusion. All is cared by all angles from the Source. Body recuperates every night because is part of greater reality we call soul which is taking care while the ego is sleeping.

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Luckyleaf · 2022-10-29 10:42:10

... Eventually Earth will get back to it's original form, which must be the opposite of a prison planet... So we must have thought about or at least considered another container for the beasts?... What about diminishing the gap with transitional ideas to attract help, instead of nuclear bombs.... (or the reminders of)?

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mitkobs · 2022-10-29 12:17:59

I believe as well that Earth have to get back to her original 5D base frequency. What we humans experience as limitation and suffering probably the planet also experience when specifically talking about this reality. When we pollute the natural elements of the planet and drain her of her resources probably that is not felt good by her and she endured a lot for a long time since the Tiamat disaster. Things have be restored like they were originally or close to that. And if the planet have a will and something to say she will want to be free from the parasitic life forms that are draining and polluting her.

mitkobs · 2022-10-29 14:53:05

If we talk about tests, yes, they could be a lot. This is why I brought in other topics the 7 deadly sins which are not sins but are dark passions that are main factors for lowering the vibration of people and realities. These passions are derivates of the main energy of fear. Energy of fear is possible only when you not know for sure what happens when you die. All this is connected perversely.

Have to be able to withstand these dark passions and with that not to fear anything, especially fear of dying and all that is connecting with dying - suffering, pain, insecurities, helplessness, disease, despair. And to be this strong got to have internal spiritual foundations. From that come the true morals. These foundations come from experience. And you become someone unshakable unmovable imperturbable by anything negative and corruptive, you become solid integral like a rock and with that you keep your heart and emotions viable, not let all the negative experience to harden your heart.

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Luckyleaf · 2022-10-29 18:30:09

"... spiritual foundations. ... true morals. ... experience."
Big words many covet and utter without owning them... Generally borrowed by mere, even disguised cult association...

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Jupiter 9 · 2022-10-29 20:10:12

Luckyleaf wrote:

I'm aware that CA focus on the lower federation level, but if we are to be effective helpers we must abide to Gaia's decision to ascend. If, her being the mother planet and knowing very well when enough is enough, we must agree that she'll finally give up on the role of the most patient quarantine that is. And if we agree that are beings that cannot ascend together with her, another quarantine must be created to house these retards. I've read about a special quarantine, where good, decent beings won't have to worry about securing it. The creator can manifest everything right?, if it's for the highest good. The solution isn't limited to this lower level of action. If we are to allow the new future in, we need to accept this step. I don't know if it's possible to envision practically how this will be done, but the principle at least, if correct, will manifest.
But it's a good point to admit there are two parties that cannot convive together, the solution begins there. Yes, we are here for the ones that still have the chance to be saved/ save themselves. Many insist to enmesh everybody which seems to be the regressives' goal, to promote lack of discernment with the l&l cult. Not everybody is meant to follow Gaia.

They could also be "quarantined" in an astral plane where they could heal and evolve and then they can incarnate on "5D" Earth or another planet.

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Gosia: I understand. Ok, and Alenym, how is the situation with the exopolitics and with the Federation right now?

Alenym: Difficult, very complex subject. Nobody agrees. A lot of time gets wasted. Nobody arrives at anything. Or little.

The problem is that the consensus is that, whether we like it or not, an enormous majority of the "Matrix" inhabitants, or mind controlled by the terrestrial Satanist Cabal Illuminati, will have to withdraw from the Earth, and I mean disincarnate.

Not that I agree, but yes, they see it convenient for the majority to desincarnate. This lends itself to them being more permissive with what is happening with the extermination agenda. Even so, the Satanist Illuminati Cabal will have to withdraw.

Gosia: So people disincarnating could be useful. But how can they go to other planets if it is said that they only go where their frequency dictates, and not knowing of other worlds, they will want to return to Earth. They will be themselves again here. Their values and all. That part is not clear to me.

Alenym: Then they would have to heal and evolve on higher planes before they could reincarnate on Earth or elsewhere. However, as has been said before, the work of spiritual advancement has to be done while alive, which connects us back to the inescapable fact that humanity should evolve in its own way and learn from its own values. This prevents, from yet another angle, the liberation of worlds as many desire and falsely claim is taking place. This is why that information is false. Whoever spreads it lacks knowledge of how civilizations in space function.

Gosia: And what if they are not being "liberated" but simply the regressive entities get removed? Without the humans knowing about it. And then the humans continue their evolutionary path.

Robert: Humanity, being the Source, has the tendency to manifest positive things.

Alenym: What is the use of removing regressive entities if it is humanity itself that forms and will form them again? If humanity moves forward, they themselves will dissolve the entities they have previously created, simply for lack of creative attention. Again, the control is in human hands.

It is true that they enter into vicious circles. In that case, it is the harshness of life, the obstacles and challenges that will cause the inspiration and motivation not to commit the same mistakes again. The need for friction for advancement is not necessary, as the Swaruus have said, yet it is humanity itself that has created and dictated the need for them to be so.

Exopolitics with Alenym of Temmer - Liberation of the Earth does NOT work as people expect

Luckyleaf · 2022-10-29 21:03:20

Yes. To the new quarantine I was refering to, I'd reserve for the beings that are really beyond help, because their logic is not human anymore. Though the "quarantine" may serve the ones that still have enough consciousness to develop, in the astral and in the physical, because I can't believe they can evolve solely in the astral. But not in 5d, this only when they complete their healing.

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mitkobs · 2022-10-30 05:45:55

Those beyond help(drenched in evil) they are self quarantined in the lower astral, so called hell. By their frequencies they congregate in own created low energetic place. They cannot be send to higher energetic place when they do not want and also they cannot endure a lighter energetic place where the healing is happening. Such places they avoid like plague and can be deadly to them.

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Jupiter 9 · 2022-10-30 13:18:31

mitkobs wrote:

Those beyond help(drenched in evil) they are self quarantined in the lower astral, so called hell. By their frequencies they congregate in own created low energetic place. They cannot be send to higher energetic place when they do not want and also they cannot endure a lighter energetic place where the healing is happening. Such places they avoid like plague and can be deadly to them.

Are those people real people with souls or are they just tulpas that cannot exist without the creative attention of people with connection to source?

I think those are mostly egregor entities that are sustained by feeding on the real people in 3D. And if humans raise in frequency and strengthen their connection with source, those entities will no longer be able to attach on humans and feed on them, and won't be able to trick the humans to give them their creative attentions through fear and mind control. And will naturally dissolve back to source without the creative attention of the real people of the terrestrial 3D realm.

And if some people "with souls" become a match to that place after death, I think they can only stay in that place for only a very short time and will very quickly start having more positive thoughts and thoughts manifest faster in the afterlife, so they'll start remembering and become a match and become aware of their guides and support system and will "ascend" into higher astral realms.

Jupiter 9 · 2022-10-30 13:20:03

Yazhi: Yes, the souls are tired, they know that it is not possible to continue as they are. The Matrix game is tiring. They know it from above. Yes, it is a mass exodus and with it the destruction of the Matrix and 3D as it is known.

The Cabal and the Illuminati, the regressives full of pure evil, cannot exist by themselves, evil is not self-sustaining, because it self-destroys. Evil has the characteristic or definition of having the tendency to self-destruct, so they need a collective or individual mind or minds that are creative so that they are constantly reversing what they do. Neutralizing their regressive actions or else everything just disappears.

Ergo, evil is only generated by a being with its own consciousness that maintains the components of both the evil, and positive. Ergo: The regressives and the Cabal is just a product of the very people within the Matrix game. The villain of the story used as a means to end the game.

Even so, from the position from within the Earth there is evil, and it must be fought. But by fighting evil one only perpetuates it, one only manages to give greater continuity to the game of low densities, to the eternal game of fight between good and evil.

Being that the integration of good and evil is the only solution. Not to deny or resist evil, but to integrate and accept it, which will inevitably bring about its dissolution. Only the positive remaining. What defines a high density.

Robert: So, to end the bad guys we have to get the creators out of here?

Yazhi: It is a very real solution. Without creators, there is no contrast, there is no one to neutralize evil... It dissolves.

From the transcript: If Everything is Souls´ Plan from Above Anyway- What Do We Do? - Yazhi Swaruu - Pleiadian Contact

Luckyleaf · 2022-10-30 13:20:27

mitkobs wrote:

Those beyond help(drenched in evil) they are self quarantined in the lower astral, so called hell.

I don't think evil entities want to be self-quarantined, they need to drain others energy so they invade us. Precisely a quarantine is for them, so they cannot escape. This layer, the low astral, cannot stay around the ascended planet and could be contained in the q.

Jupiter 9 · 2022-10-30 13:26:29

Gosia: How do they manage to inhabit human bodies? They come taking over organic portals?

Yazhi: Some do, no doubt. But they are already, and have for a long time, had their own re-incarnation cycle into human like bodies, bodies that are compatible to them, because they have been breeding among them and with that in-breading they go accommodating those human-like bodies to their frequency needs.

As they in-breed they do have genetic problems, and those have been amply explained by researchers like David Icke, that is why they must take genes from others from time to time to cleanse theirs, as they did with Princess Diana. As he explains.

I'm not ripping this off David Icke, I'm only coming to the same conclusion as he did, but from my angle. I mean, the man is darn right!

But I arrived at the same conclusion from another angle, from the point of observation of the spirit side. ← ← Because I “saw” how they were formed, and they were formed by direct action of manifestation of the human collective unconscious, that is a mind in itself.

As I have recently explained, a person, a mind, conscious being of any sort, is made up of the addition of simpler minds that act as “cells” or “neurons” at-be (not physical cells, but mental cells) that will in total add up to a larger conscious being that in itself will also add itself up with others, like levels, to form an even more expanded being, and so on and so forth until you get to the level of Source, becoming the all aware-everything.

Same here, exactly the same. The collective mind of humanity, a mind on its own, caused into existence by the collective unconscious, a set of beings, or being, that in order to be in that human collective they need to work through a human body, example the lizard Queen, Gates, and all those.

And as what brought them into existence, and keeps them ‘existing’ is human suffering, fear, and lower emotions full of uncertainty, as I mentioned, mainly fear, they must cause more of that in order to exist and thrive.

In other words, if people as a collective (and it starts individually) remove their Fear (not attention) from those that are hurting them so much nowadays, they will literately weaken their souls, the souls of those psychopaths in control of the Cabal and of whatever it is doing.

So I'm not only talking about dark entities, astral demons, and gins. I´m talking about dark souls that cannot self-sustain their existence without human suffering and human attention. Those with means of tulpa - egregor manifestation mechanics (explained years ago by us).

But as everything evil cannot self-sustain, having a strong tendency to self-destruct, they need to be ‘fed’ into existence constantly by people with so called connection to Source.

But that's also only partially true, people with ‘souls’' don't connect to Source, they are Source, they only forget they are, therefore falling into the illusion of having ‘lost’ connection to... Source.

This is what others, in an attempt to explain this, call Lush, that turns out to become some kind of New Age-like substance dark entities need to feed on.

Not a substance, I'm telling you all what it is, it is your personal and combined manifestation power focused on creating the negative, by means of concentrating on what you all fear ← ←

(bold mine)

From the transcript: Astral War over Humans - Cabal Shadow Operators - Chat with Yazhi Swaruu (Extraterrestrial Contact)

mitkobs · 2022-10-30 16:26:18

Jupiter, I think they are turned the same, all are tulpas now. If some had soul before they lost it with doing so much evil that the energy taken cannot be balanced back from their part. And this is the destruction of the soul in action. They are beyond saving. Talking about the lowest astral. Those who want to be better have chance of escaping this place.

Luckyleaf, of course they do not want that because they need to keep their attention on something negative and maniacal and for that they need human minds who can be manipulated and tricked to produce dark energy for them.

Luckyleaf · 2022-10-30 16:36:22

Yes mitkobs, but then you really believe they are "self quarantined"

mitkobs · 2022-10-30 18:05:41

Self quarantined as gathering all with similar vibration to one place and it is like a club with exclusive membership and strict chain of command. They cannot go elsewhere because are bound to their vibration so it is like quarantine.

Luckyleaf · 2022-10-30 19:56:56

You're applying this word from their pov! So better name it ownership, instead. Our world is their range of action, they're quite limited!... And I don't believe all of them want to escape this membership. It's a realm on its own.

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