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Happy

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Re: The Grand Scheme

I don't know if it is possible to use the step council system from the beginning or if there need to be a transitional governance system as a first step that will prepare the ground for the implementation of a step council system.

Yes, Yazhi indicated possibly two generations (maybe more?) for the implementation, and a transition of sorts leading up to it.

Yazhi will hopefully touch more upon this later, but until then I imagine several possibilities for the "transition". It could mean both a temporal and a spatial gradient; meaning both one community slowly changing over time, and several communities, each under different but stable conditions.

As you say, a limited number of members of a 'folk' or community is likely necessary. I see a process not very different from the theoretical model of 'speciation by isolation' in the outdated theory of evolution. And it's possibly lacking in applicability here.

One question I've pondered somewhat upon is if isolation is important. I guess the answer is found in the effects of the dominant frequency. Imagine a local community with full flux of ideas and attitudes from massive migration. It'll be difficult to call it a community at all. If not, something else must define it's borders. And online, it seems obvious that communication is the defining attribute. How is isolation meaningful there?

But when the communication between the community and the 'world' is reduced below a threshold, I think it's reasonable to expect a development away from the dominant frequency.

Other difficult questions: What happens to the individual choice if he or she is uncertain about the reasons for living in that community? And will the individual’s consciousness/knowledge of the situation determine the effects of communication?

A constructed and theoretical approach like this feels too rigid to be of much use, however. And it makes no sense in online 'council-work'. But it contains aspects that can come in 'handy'.

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Jupiter 9

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Re: The Grand Scheme

I am looking into sociocracy and I think it is a good candidate for a transitional form of governance.

Two good not very long videos about it:

What is sociocracy?

Sociocracy in communities

What do you all think about this?

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"If you do feel pulled in, to save, protect, others, I would suggest to examine the energy of the “guardian” instead. Not the weaponized guardian, but the guardian like an impenetrable wall energy. No consequences to who tries to trespass, just an impossibility of getting through." - Inelia

Lyran

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Re: The Grand Scheme

I am looking into sociocracy and I think it is a good candidate for a transitional form of governance.

Two good not very long videos about it:

What is sociocracy?

Sociocracy in communities

What do you all think about this?

I've not read up but I have on ecosocialism. I'm no expert in ideology but it did have some positive sounding paradigm-altering elements.
I'll have a look Jupiter, Thanks ☺️
Lyran

Happy

Moderator

Re: The Grand Scheme

I am looking into sociocracy and I think it is a good candidate for a transitional form of governance.

Two good not very long videos about it:

What is sociocracy?

Sociocracy in communities

What do you all think about this?

Thank you, Jupiter!   I need some time to look into those. But I must admit that the name 'sociocratic' gives me a knee-jerk reaction, as the suffix ("-cracy") is translated to "rule by". Then the term itself becomes somewhat ideological and collectivistic - opposite individualistic - in nature. I also don't see many titles on economy in the site's playlists there, which is promising. The function of money in this can give a very good perspective on the thoughts behind it. There are other elements which come up, but I won't make any judgment before I get a better understanding of this. But thank you again!

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Gabriel

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Re: The Grand Scheme

The Federation has gone through a series of trial and error, experiments on this planet. This can be seen via their impluse to eradicate a developing species almost to the brink of extinction (when thing's do not go as planned), only to rejuvenate another as it seems pointless matrix, with the same or perhaps similar characteristics of the prior race of being's.

These ET group's must be well aware that their experimental system is flawed and this could be one of many possibilities by which creates this necessity for eradication, yet it appears that flawless utopian system they are seeking, is their main objective. The Federation has taken a keen liking to this planet. There must be a byproduct (where these ET groups will benefit) to all of this, in their maddness of creating a total slave race on the genetic level.

Just for the record, the Federation or the ETs didn't create a slave race, the reptilians are the ones that created the "adamic race" and other reptilian slave races.

Thank you. Also those reptiles, they are the Draco...Thuban comes to mind.

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mitkobs

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Re: The Grand Scheme

Whatever order of society people try to implement if the regressives are part the system(or in the vicinity like a potential counter force) they will sabotage and ruin it or twist-turn it to their advantage and make it work for them, will turn it into autocracy tyranny masked as democracy-communism-monarchy.

Jupiter 9

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Re: The Grand Scheme

Whatever order of society people try to implement if the regressives are part the system(or in the vicinity like a potential counter force) they will sabotage and ruin it or twist-turn it to their advantage and make it work for them, will turn it into autocracy tyranny masked as democracy-communism-monarchy.

That's why we, the "other 1%", are here for. We are uncorruptible and uncontrollable and we cannot be manipulated, and we will bootstrap the new system starting with very small communities and we will guard it from the "cabal 1%" that will try to infiltrate and corrupt it, until everyone else reaches a stage in their spiritual and ethical development where they become uncorruptible too. The cabal can't stop us, they can kill us but we will just walk in to another body and pick up from where we left of or hop in to a starship and continue our work from orbit.

We are the elite corps, special forces reinforcements that are here to make this a fair fight. We are the positive 1% that are here to counter the negative 1% so this fight is fair and balanced. We are the ones that can be the key to turning the tide in favor of humanity and not the white hats controlled opposition. We are the "uncontrolled opposition", we are elite corps special forces ET-Human hybrids and good luck corrupting and stopping us. And killing us won't work, they burned Joan of Arc at the stake, how is that working out for them haha  

Inelia Benz: [...] It is easy to be sucked into a battle field. The energy of the savior, the martyr, the soldier, the warrior, the commander, is strong is some of us here. But it implies a lowering of vibration, as all war and conflict is low vibrational by nature. If you do feel pulled in, to save, protect, others, I would suggest to examine the energy of the “guardian” instead. Not the weaponized guardian, but the guardian like an impenetrable wall energy. No consequences to who tries to trespass, just an impossibility of getting through.

We are bridges for people to pass through into the new paradigm. But it appears that soon, many of us will become a wall to stop the old paradigm from polluting the new. A wall that is so clear, so awake that cannot be infused with, manipulated, or corrupted by programs or judgments, or temptations. [...]

From the article: The Splitting of the Worlds – Coming to a planet near You!

Yazhi: [...] But being that the positive races are the dominant ones in quantity on Earth, it could be summarized that there are two great groups of beings that form the Terrestrial 3D Matrix:

1.) The positive ones as a mass set
2.) The regressive ones, also as a mass set

Today with the appearance of an enormous amount of starseeds (coupled with other complex causes) a separation of two worlds has been created on Earth, those who desire the positive and to progress towards more Holistic Societies, and those who desire to perfect the dystopian regressive transhumanist Matrix.

So this is the nature of the struggle from the soul level, two very large forces clashing right now. Where the vast majority are under the control of the regressive tendencies, either actively or just as pawns for following the system. As explained in the movie-documentary Matrix, anyone still connected to the Matrix will be an agent of the system and with it, will defend it.

But although in a minority of numbers, there is another large progressive mass that desires the development of a more just Society with Holistic tendencies, mostly due to the influence of people-souls (for lack of a better name) in the form of starseeds that, although few in number, their planetary range of influence is much greater than that of the regressives, creating now a real and strong struggle between 500 sheep-zombies controlled by Cabal-Controller Egregors against 5 Urmah lions armed to the teeth (excuse the simile). So even if the starseeds are at a numerical disadvantage of 10,000 against 1, the strength of the fight is very intense, not to say balanced.

The battle is more than anything spiritual, of consciences, of mind against mind. And it is only reflected in the physical world with the current chaos. The action is on the spiritual side. But it is fought also from the physical side as we are doing together now It looks like little, IT IS NOT.

It is everything. The struggle is of minds, of knowledge. Remembering once again that those against whom you fight is against yourselves, which is then reflected as Egregors like the Cabal. This is of utmost importance.

Removing that defeatist, deterministic human mentality, the mentality of small children who depend on authorities to solve their existence, will automatically eliminate the Cabal and the rest of the Egregors that afflict humanity today. They are only their reflection. This is noticed and seen simply because the Cabal depends on humanity to give them power. If they do not cooperate then nothing will feed the Cabal and it will have to disappear.

Those who support the Cabal are more Egregors, and personal Tulpas, which we can also describe as regressive hybrids, which are just more arms of the Cabal which, I insist, is only a reflection of the human mentality.

When people say that there are those with a lot of power who are repressing them, mostly old decrepit mummies who only live by taking adrenochrome... I will tell them: Who gave them that power if not the people themselves by obeying? What in their minds they regard as authorities but are only a product of their mentality of delegating their own power. [...]

From the video: "Holographic" - HOLISTIC Society - Transitional Societies are Possible - Yazhi Swaruu

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"If you do feel pulled in, to save, protect, others, I would suggest to examine the energy of the “guardian” instead. Not the weaponized guardian, but the guardian like an impenetrable wall energy. No consequences to who tries to trespass, just an impossibility of getting through." - Inelia

Luckyleaf

Member

Re: The Grand Scheme

Obsession with 3d hinders the way of grasping a transition to a better future not far away...dampening the thread to not start a fire, in the name of a "reality check"?

I've read a post long ago where a member said there would/will be a great and sure backfire if there's an attempt to kill starseeds... Or else we wouldn't be here today...

Last edited by Luckyleaf (2022-12-21 07:33:05)

mitkobs

Member

Re: The Grand Scheme

With regressives and not developed in the picture there could be only one way of social order - autocracy. That means one ruler have to make all the decisions for everyone. If this ruler is good(someone with superior good qualities) in nature there will be positive and progressive trends in the development of the whole. If is evil, the opposite. Now the situation is the same, autocracy, and the ruler is evil whoever that ruler might be. But the secret ruler have front men and women who are exposed to the public and can be hold responsible for what ordeal is created.

Last edited by mitkobs (2022-12-21 06:30:33)