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Kirion

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

May be this is a little intrusive on the part of a stranger, but since Maria felt it necessary to inform us, then let Kassia of Erra join me in congratulations. Anyone who cares about the safety of Queen Alenym and her entourage and does this not just out of duty, but because for him it is his family, will always evoke a feeling of sincere gratitude in people close to Alenym and all the people she cares about with maternal love. So Happy Birthday Kassia!

[spoiler]Возможно, это несколько навязчиво со стороны незнакомого, но раз Мария посчитала необходимым это сообщить, то позволь, Kassia, и мне присоединится к поздравлениям. Тот, кто печется об безопасности королевы Alenym и ее приближенных и делает это не просто по долгу службы, а потому что для него это его семья, всегда будет вызывать чувство искренней благодарности в близких Alenym людях и всем народе, о котором она печется с материнской любовью. Так что с Днем рождения Kassia![/spoiler]

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Ariya

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

I was reminded of this from Kassia’s birthday wishes.

Here she speaks to us via Mari:

Extractions and their problems, Part 4, Kassia speaks directly to those who remember.
https://youtu.be/_R4Ev_MbdMM

Transcript:
https://swaruu.org/transcripts/extracti … er-english

crystallinemister

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

“Labeling yourself with a single memory is pigeonholing and limiting yourself, when you are and have been everything, you are and were everything. You are unlimited and eternal.” -Kassia of Erra

Thank you so much for posting this, Ariya. I can't tell you how much I really needed to hear these words today.

"It is very dangerous to remember living other incarnations outside Earth while living on Earth, especially if they are only fragments because the imagination poorly and wrongly fills the holes of those memories.” -Nai´shara

I have had memories of preparing to come here, sometimes dreams, sometimes waking dreams. I think all the feelings of the memories are correct and very real, but like Nai'shara said, parts of it are filled in poorly by my imagination and various things from my life on Earth.

For instance, I remember being inside a metal locker (like at school or gym) wrapped in sheets of cotton batting. I know that has something to do with immersion, but the dream took pieces of my life at school (lockers, sewing class) and replaced the parts I couldn't remember. One thing I remember clearly is insisting on being [I don't know what because even when people say the word to me on Earth, I hear high frequency feedback and can't make out the word.] It seriously took me almost twenty years to find out what the word is and what it means.

“And that is exactly why mirrors are generated on Earth. In other words, the same soul but with a different path in a very terrestrial 3D.” -Mari Swaruu

I know for certain who my 'higher self' is. I was told in rather a ritualistic way when I was sixteen. I struggle off/on with wanting to talk about it, to someone, anyone, just because it can be a lonely thing to live with. But Kassia reminded me that it's probably better not to say much precisely because we're so different. I came so close to talking about it directly this morning. I'm mostly glad I didn't.

But more importantly, I don't try to be that person. I couldn't even profess to know that person. He's a stand up guy, based on what I've heard, but we come here to have different experiences. And be different people. Just when I think I couldn't have made up who I am if I wanted to, I remember that's exactly what I've done, beforehand and in the moment as I live. If we weren't constantly breaking new ground, our souls would be bored. Or at least mine would.

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Ariya

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

Labeling yourself with a single memory is pigeonholing and limiting yourself, when you are and have been everything, you are and were everything. You are unlimited and eternal.” -Cassia of Erra

Thank you so much for posting this, Ariya. I can't tell you how much I really needed to hear these words today.
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You’re welcome crystallinemister. I read the Kassia message yesterday and  it gave me a lot to think about too.

It sounds like you have a lot of really interesting experiences, and memories. It’s a shame that we all have to be so careful about what we share. And I understand your hesitancy because I have the similar stops-and-starts with opening up about things too.

I don’t really have an identity other than the self that I am now. Somehow, I feel very strongly that I could appear in any realm, in any body, and I would still know who I am. We are unlimited and eternal.

I always say I have vague memories. But I have more memories than I like to admit.

Some years ago I had a very strong vision of my higher self  in a deep sleep. I felt so abandoned and it made me cry uncontrollably. I was shouting ‘wake up, you need to wake up, don’t leave me here on my own.’

It’s actually quite painful to think about it even now. I felt abandoned and alone. But I don’t feel that anymore.

I think one of the purposes of my experience on Earth is to explore who I really am without knowing anything. I think I’m comfortable with that now.

However, if I’m being honest, I want to know myself on a deeper level. Not to be anyone else, but just because I want to expand my understanding of everything.

I find that having conversations with other similar people here, does help. Or at least helps me see more clearly.

(…)  If we weren't constantly breaking new ground, our souls would be bored. Or at least mine would.

100% agree ★

crystallinemister

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

It sounds like you have a lot of really interesting experiences, and memories. It’s a shame that we all have to be so careful about what we share. And I understand your hesitancy because I have the similar stops-and-starts with opening up about things too.

I do wish sometimes I could share more safely. I've seen some things I've never been able to explain. I'm curious if others have experienced the same or similar. And I have to admit, there would be a certain relief involved in just saying who I really am.

I don’t really have an identity other than the self that I am now. Somehow, I feel very strongly that I could appear in any realm, in any body, and I would still know who I am. We are unlimited and eternal.

I think that is a great thing to be able to say about yourself. If you can be here and, in spite of the challenges, know who you are, you must really know who you are.

Some years ago I had a very strong vision of my higher self  in a deep sleep. I felt so abandoned and it made me cry uncontrollably. I was shouting ‘wake up, you need to wake up, don’t leave me here on my own.’

It’s actually quite painful to think about it even now. I felt abandoned and alone. But I don’t feel that anymore.

My heart goes out to you, Ariya. That sounds like a very intense experience. It's amazing how visions and feelings can cut across worlds and influence us wherever we stand.

It reminds me of the concept of 'bleedthrough' as described in Jane Roberts' Oversoul Seven Trilogy, the idea that we often experience feelings and thoughts that come through from other lives or timelines. Have you ever read her work? I find those books in particular very fun to read.

However, if I’m being honest, I want to know myself on a deeper level. Not to be anyone else, but just because I want to expand my understanding of everything.

I think that's a very admirable desire. Something about your energy, I can easily see you doing so wherever you find yourself. I almost feel... envious, but that's not quite the right word. Like envy, but really just admiration. I admire that about you.

I think in the times when I've been able to forget the things I've been told and just live, I've grown in ways I couldn't have imagined otherwise. And more recent times, when I've been aware again, that's been a different kind of growth.

I was a very nice man-boy for a long, long time and a lot of people have depended on him to be that. This life has helped me develop some much needed toughness that I'm hoping will translate to being a better warrior, but also a more balanced person.

I find that having conversations with other similar people here, does help. Or at least helps me see more clearly.

I feel much the same. I really appreciate being able to talk with you, Ariya, and so many others here. I appreciate the forum and having a place to connect with even remotely likeminded people.

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Meridianwoman

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

Transcript:
https://swaruu.org/transcripts/extracti … er-english

Thank you Ariya for reposting the video by Mari and Kassia -  I watched it again and learned more the second time.

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mitkobs

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

Another own self do not mean that have to be totally identical. All the ethical considerations noted by Kasia are valid. Other self have its own life, do not expect to replace him/her and his/her family to accept you the same way. Have to live our own life.

Kirion

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

...That is part of your responsibility while doing your shadow work.

I don't quite understand this term: "shadow work". What exactly does it mean for you: working with the subconscious; routine work with your inner reaction; work on your shortcomings; a certain symbiosis of all of the above; something else? And how does this manifest itself for you at all: meditating; analyzing yourself from the outside; holding back? For example, for us who do not want to get worse, there is constant (ideally) self-control and if something begins to darken the soul, then: 1. with an internal volitional effort, we pull ourselves together (i.e., we try to show at least some self-control, which stimulates the growth of self-control as a virtue / quality of the soul); 2. we take responsibility for the darkening == self-reproach, because once something darkened the soul from the outside, it means something bad (or some kind of infirmity) is present in the soul is what causes such a reaction to the outside and it needs to be worked with; 3. we begin to pray (an inner appeal to the One through Whom everything began to be) so that God's action helps to resist infirmity at the current moment (i.e., to be able to maintain inner self-control, and not get carried away by emotions or temptation or something else that can darken the soul) and reveal to the inner eye the deeper causes of the current reaction.

[spoiler]Я не совсем понимаю этот термин: "shadow work". Что конкретно он означает для вас: работу с подсознанием; рутинную работу со своей внутренней реакцией; работу над своими недостатками; определенный симбиоз всего перечисленнного; что-то иное? И как это вообще проявляется для вас: медитируете; анализируюте себя со стороны; сдерживаетесь? Например, для нас, не желающих стать хуже, присутствует постоянный (в идеале) самоконтроль и, если что-то начинает омрачать душу, то: 1. внутренним волевым усилием одергиваем себя (т.е., пытаемся проявить хоть какую-то выдержку, что стимулирует рост выдержки, как добродетели/ качества души); 2. берем на себя ответственность за омрачение == самоукорение, потому что раз душу нечто омрачило со вне, значит нечто скверное (или некая немощь) присутствует в душе что и вызывает таковую реакцию на внешнее и с этим надо работать; 3. начинаем молиться (внутреннее обращение к Тому, чрез Которого все начало быть) с тем, чтоб действие Божие помогло противостать немощи на текщий момент (т.е., суметь сохранить внутреннее самообладание, а не увлечся эмоциями или соблазном или чем то еще, что может омрачить душу) и явило внутреннему взору более глубокие причины текущей реакции.[/spoiler]

upd. I remembered what it meant. More precisely, I was reminded indirectly. There are no more questions to the forum about "shadow work". Questions to my leaky memory remain.

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Ariya

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Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

crystallinemister, thank you, genuinely, for what you have written. It has been very helpful.

I do wish sometimes I could share more safely. I've seen some things I've never been able to explain. I'm curious if others have experienced the same or similar. And I have to admit, there would be a certain relief involved in just saying who I really am.

It is strange and difficult that many of us will go a whole lifetime without being able to talk to about what we experience. Especially the important things that make us the person we are.

My heart goes out to you, Ariya. That sounds like a very intense experience. It's amazing how visions and feelings can cut across worlds and influence us wherever we stand.

It reminds me of the concept of 'bleedthrough' as described in Jane Roberts' Oversoul Seven Trilogy, the idea that we often experience feelings and thoughts that come through from other lives or timelines. Have you ever read her work? I find those books in particular very fun to read.

Oh yes! I like Jane Roberts and I’m familiar with Seth Speaks etc.
I really loved the books when I first read them. The concepts are easily explained in a charismatic style. I will investigate the the ‘oversoul seven’ trilogy.  Thank you for the recommendation. I will probably read it tonight.

I think in the times when I've been able to forget the things I've been told and just live, I've grown in ways I couldn't have imagined otherwise. And more recent times, when I've been aware again, that's been a different kind of growth.

Yes, I also oscillate between periods of remembering and forgetting. I do it semi- intentionally. I feel the forgetting helps to create resilience to be in this world. And then further growth again comes from remembering.

I was a very nice man-boy for a long, long time and a lot of people have depended on him to be that. This life has helped me develop some much needed toughness that I'm hoping will translate to being a better warrior, but also a more balanced person.

You are very aware. I’m sure you already have the capability to embody the person you desire to be.

I feel much the same. I really appreciate being able to talk with you, Ariya, and so many others here. I appreciate the forum and having a place to connect with even remotely likeminded people.

I really appreciate it too ★

crystallinemister

Member

Re: Space News 21. April 25 2024, Kassia, Etorthans, Greys, Toleka, - Mari

crystallinemister, thank you, genuinely, for what you have written. It has been very helpful.

I'm so happy if anything I say is of help, Ariya. You've really helped me today, too. Thank you

It is strange and difficult that many of us will go a whole lifetime without being able to talk to about what we experience. Especially the important things that make us the person we are.

I try not to feel so lonely about it. I know many people experience their own version of this, feeling unable to speak their truth for any number of reasons. Even if it is difficult, I think it does make us stronger as people.

Oh yes! I like Jane Roberts and I’m familiar with Seth Speaks etc.
I really loved the books when I first read them. The concepts are easily explained in a charismatic style. I will investigate the the ‘oversoul seven’ trilogy.  Thank you for the recommendation. I will probably read it tonight.

I hope you like them. 'Charismatic' is a great description. Have you ever seen the film of Ms. Roberts channeling Seth? It's absolutely chilling: https://youtu.be/LgAH_GfLyis?si=9CIiUjQfdsjoiYeG

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