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#1 2022-03-10 01:38:56

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Question on Karistus

Hi Gosia,

I have some questions on the Karistus that conflict with what you've taught about the Taygetans;

If the two races are deeply connected to the Taygetans and have worked together for thousands of years, how come Taygetans weren't able to give more information about them and saying they didn't know much? How is it possible to not have learned a lot about a race from being so involved, even Arsinoe was said to have dated Azazel (a Karistus). Also, you said the only race that could procreate with Taygetans were Antarians; so how would a romantic relationship between a Karistus and Taygetan work, they can be intimate but not reproduce? Lastly, in my view the Taygetans and Karistus have a very different mentally; with the former not wanting to perpetuate the concepts of deities, heaven/hell and the likes, while the Karistus want to be seen as gods/goddesses and many of their star seeds are Christians clinging to the idea of Jesus (which Taygetans have denounced as a Roman/Cabal lie). Karistus themselves believe in Krystil being a savior/deity, when Taygetans/Swaruunians have also denounced Christ as a deity and said its an energy/state of consciousness that anyone can reach. Even the channel of Dante Santori you recommended is full of lies, things that go directly against what you have taught; such as the Ark of Gabriel contains the crown of thorns, the spear of destiny that supposedly stabbed Jesus and the shroud his body was wrapped in (all of this was shared differently from you) so how come the Karistus aren't aware there was no Jesus and the arks have nothing to do with that character. Why is there SO much contradictions between what you shared about Karistus/Jesus and what the Taygetans/Swaruunians shared? Doesn't make sense to me that the two races worked together for so long and not knowing about one another to a greater extent than what was mentioned. I'm not disputing the validity of your contact, far from it; its just this Karistus in relation to Taygetans that has many distortions and holes (in my view).

Thank you if you are able to address some of these smile

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Karistus. They have a deep connection with Taygetans.

From China wrote:

Gosia, what is the meaning of the wing icon in the upper right corner of your video? What does it stand for? Can you elaborate?

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#2 2022-03-10 02:02:20

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Re: Question on Karistus

I understand Karistus more like a title. Swaruu said she is or Taygetans are a Karistus too, did not she? (I might mix this with DK now).
But anyway for me they are negative and I say so bc they serve negative cause of Dante Santori and also dictator Putin.

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#3 2022-03-10 02:22:10

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Karistus is not a title, DK and D'Jedi are titles for people/beings that reach a level of advance awareness/connection to Source. I'm not sure if Karistus are negative, but Dante Santori is either a liar or doesn't know as much as he claims; since most of his information goes directly against what Taygetans/Swaruunians shared. I don't understand how Taygetans don't know much about Karistus if they are so closely involved and worked together for thousands of years, by that time a lot would be known about them. But in my view the two races are quite different, Karistus seeming to be fine and wanting to be worshipped as angels/deities while I can't ever see Alenym, Aneeka etc ever wanting to be seen as goddesses. And if Krystil is a title, why haven't Karistus clarified that and instead continued the lie that such name was Jesus, (its these big gaps between the two races mentality, plans and history that don't make sense to me).


Greta wrote:

I understand Karistus more like a title. Swaruu said she is or Taygetans are a Karistus too, did not she? (I might mix this with DK now).
But anyway for me they are negative and I say so bc they serve negative cause of Dante Santori and also dictator Putin.

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#4 2022-03-10 02:28:57

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Re: Question on Karistus

Seeker_Ivy wrote:

And if Krystil is a title, why haven't Karistus clarified that and instead continued the lie that such name was Jesus.

But we do not have contact with any Karistus right.
So how can they clerify anything?

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#5 2022-03-10 02:32:57

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Right, there is no contact with them. I was referring throughout history, or even through Dante Santori (who claims to be Azazel/Karistus). Instead he does the opposite and says Jesus was real and even his stuff is in the Ark of Gabriel; which Taygetans said is the ark of Isis and is a genetic container of Earth's life pre-flood and in their museum on the Toleka. How come a Karistus doesn't know this about the arks or about Jesus? When Taygetans said Karistus was the other race that helped in putting those arks together, so this is a big discrepancy. But there are a lot of others too, hence why I'm so confused on the Karistus in regards to the Taygetans.


Greta wrote:
Seeker_Ivy wrote:

And if Krystil is a title, why haven't Karistus clarified that and instead continued the lie that such name was Jesus.

But we do not have contact with any Karistus right.
So how can they clerify anything?


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#6 2022-03-10 02:39:25

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I see a big difference between "I am Karistus" = an ET and "I am a Karistus incarnate" = a human
He is not a Karistus, he is a cabal distraction who abuses Karistus account imo

Seeker_Ivy wrote:

Right, there is no contact with them. I was referring throughout history, or even through Dante Santori (who claims to be Azazel/Karistus). Instead he does the opposite and says Jesus was real and even his stuff is in the Ark of Gabriel; which Taygetans said is the ark of Isis and is a genetic container of Earth's life pre-flood and in their museum on the Toleka. How come a Karistus doesn't know this about the arks or about Jesus? When Taygetans said Karistus was the other race that helped in putting those arks together, so this is a big discrepancy. But there are a lot of others too, hence why I'm so confused on the Karistus in regards to the Taygetans.


Greta wrote:
Seeker_Ivy wrote:

And if Krystil is a title, why haven't Karistus clarified that and instead continued the lie that such name was Jesus.

But we do not have contact with any Karistus right.
So how can they clerify anything?

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#7 2022-03-10 02:44:16

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I too suspected he isn't a Karistus/step down or a Karistus starseed/incarnate. His information is basically making that race seem rather negative, liars or with agendas against humans. But I still want Gosia to give more information on the relationship/history between Taygetans and Karistus, since in my view they are too different in mentality to be close.

Greta wrote:

I see a big difference between "I am Karistus" = an ET and "I am a Karistus incarnate" = a human
He is not a Karistus, he is a cabal distraction who abuses Karistus account imo

Seeker_Ivy wrote:

Right, there is no contact with them. I was referring throughout history, or even through Dante Santori (who claims to be Azazel/Karistus). Instead he does the opposite and says Jesus was real and even his stuff is in the Ark of Gabriel; which Taygetans said is the ark of Isis and is a genetic container of Earth's life pre-flood and in their museum on the Toleka. How come a Karistus doesn't know this about the arks or about Jesus? When Taygetans said Karistus was the other race that helped in putting those arks together, so this is a big discrepancy. But there are a lot of others too, hence why I'm so confused on the Karistus in regards to the Taygetans.


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But we do not have contact with any Karistus right.
So how can they clerify anything?

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#8 2022-03-10 02:52:17

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Re: Question on Karistus

Amnesia is imposed when incarnating here, and trauma is often induced regardless of soul origin. So it seems perfectly possible that anyone can act apparently negatively as a public person, while being supported on a soul-level by a positive race of his/her "origin."


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#9 2022-03-10 02:57:26

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ah the good old 'the path to hell is paved with good intentions.' Doesn't discount that what Santori is doing is basically smearing the Karistus, but you're implying the don't care.


Happy wrote:

Amnesia is imposed when incarnating here, and trauma is often induced regardless of soul origin. So it seems perfectly possible that anyone can act apparently negatively as a public person, while being supported on a soul-level by a positive race of his/her "origin."


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#10 2022-03-10 03:06:12

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I cannot say if Karistus care or not. But I think there's a reason why the cabal and Satanists are not particularly preoccupied with Jupiter... And I'm not well versed into what Santori submit or of his connections on a soul level (but I've seen some of his videos). Whatever he does, he seems to be very conscious of his own energy. I cannot and will not say if what he does is right or wrong (as long as he's not directly harming anyone, that's wrong). He may also be in for some hard-earned lessons, who can say?


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#11 2022-03-10 03:12:03

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Happy wrote:

I cannot and will not say if what he does is right or wrong (as long as he's not directly harming anyone, that's wrong). He may also be in for some hard-earned lessons, who can say?

He sells tickets to Jupiter but does not deliver the service. This is hurting people. Not to mention he partakes in rituals where children are burnt and eaten (barbecued he said). Very dark person.

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#12 2022-03-10 03:14:42

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oh WOW! Are you serious about the rituals where children are eaten? If this is true, it goes to confirm he can't possibility be a Karistus but would support him being a Cabal puppet meant to smear the Karistus. ha selling tickets to Jupiter? what a nut for a sure, guess he's not aware of the Van Allen Belts though the Karistus know of them.


Greta wrote:
Happy wrote:

I cannot and will not say if what he does is right or wrong (as long as he's not directly harming anyone, that's wrong). He may also be in for some hard-earned lessons, who can say?

He sells tickets to Jupiter but does not deliver the servise. This is hurting people. Not to mention he partakes in rituals where children are burnt and eaten (barbecued he said). Very dark person.


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#13 2022-03-10 03:19:54

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Greta wrote:
Happy wrote:

I cannot and will not say if what he does is right or wrong (as long as he's not directly harming anyone, that's wrong). He may also be in for some hard-earned lessons, who can say?

He sells tickets to Jupiter but does not deliver the service. This is hurting people. Not to mention he partakes in rituals where children are burnt and eaten (barbecued he said). Very dark person.


Well, if you know this for a fact (- not simply from somebody with a bad vibe on him telling you) and can do something about it, then do it. If not, my advice is to not lend him your energy by tying your consciousness to his persona.


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#14 2022-03-10 03:25:36

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This is the video. Not avail now but when he makes it public you can hear him speak about who screams most if dog, child or an adult when barbecued
Van Allen Belts are not an issue if you are a fraud lol

Seeker_Ivy wrote:

oh WOW! Are you serious about the rituals where children are eaten? If this is true, it goes to confirm he can't possibility be a Karistus but would support him being a Cabal puppet meant to smear the Karistus. ha selling tickets to Jupiter? what a nut for a sure, guess he's not aware of the Van Allen Belts though the Karistus know of them.


Greta wrote:
Happy wrote:

I cannot and will not say if what he does is right or wrong (as long as he's not directly harming anyone, that's wrong). He may also be in for some hard-earned lessons, who can say?

He sells tickets to Jupiter but does not deliver the servise. This is hurting people. Not to mention he partakes in rituals where children are burnt and eaten (barbecued he said). Very dark person.

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#15 2022-03-10 03:38:05

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That sounds horrible, but you know... There are high priests among the Satanists that have turned completely and come forward with pure education on what we are facing on Earth today (and in previous times). They have distanced themselves from the activities they have partaken in, and the cabal hates them, as could be expected. They have obviously something to face when the day comes. But they have also done the right thing by choosing good over bad. I am careful to see the difference between present and past, between lesson learned and not.

When we truly realize the errors we make in life, the hardest judge is without question the Self. That's also how we - those of us standing on the outside - can see if the lesson is learned, or not.


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Karistus are beings with individuality, with free will. Therefore they have very different personalities. Many of them are great deities and they want to be seen as deitys and they want to be worshipped. Because this is their old order. This old order works very well and they don't want to relinquish this order.   They protect it.  The Karistus are hierarchical, patriarchal and aristocratic monarchists.   

The cabal and the GF are quite the opposite to the Karistus.

In my view Dante Santori is a jerk who serves the cabal to throw dirt at the Karistus.  Because either cabal nor GF want an influence or interference by the Karistus on earh.

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#17 2022-03-10 06:49:27

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Interesting you say this; something that actually goes against the Taygetan mentality and personality, there isn't one Taygetan that we've been introduced to that wants to be seen as a deity/god or goddess (not even as angels). Especially since having that image in the eyes of humans or any other being lowers the self power of those beings, as we are all Source just playing different roles, so no one point of Source is higher or better than another (to think so is to still be within duality). As I've thought, the Karistus seem to have dug humanity's grave and the all the races against humans had to do was to manipulate them enough to fall into it, then again, we were told Karistus are the white squares on the Cabal's cheese board. But from my perspective; that is far from helping humans if they are to be moved from ruler to the next and takes away their path of evolution into their own guides, basically always keeping them under someone. So in that sense, just because your master doesn't abuse you doesn't make it right to be under someone and not free. And this is the difference of how Taygetans approach Earth and their help vs. the Karistus.

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Karistus are beings with individuality, with free will. Therefore they have very different personalities. Many of them are great deities and they want to be seen as deitys and they want to be worshipped. Because this is their old order. This old order works very well and they don't want to relinquish this order.   They protect it.  The Karistus are hierarchical, patriarchal and aristocratic monarchists.   

The cabal and the GF are quite the opposite to the Karistus.

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#18 2022-03-10 07:13:30

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If the Karistus claim to be gods, why haven't they dealt with the cabal by now? Religions describe gods as immortal and invincible, this includes christian angels and archangels. In which case they should not fear the mortal cabal. We have almost no contact with the Karistus and no information about their race that we can worship them as deities. This reminds me more of the Federation of Light and their avatars who are on the light side and forever at war with the dark forces. There are all sorts of deities and angels there. Even Jesus is there. By the way Ra says Jesus will not return but if he plans to it will be through the federation and channeling.


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Brahman wrote:

By the way Ra says Jesus will not return but if he plans to it will be through the federation and channeling.

Interesting Ra did not mention Jesus in relation to Karistus. Swaruu says Karistus are not part of Federation means Ra completely disconnects them from Jesus. But Dante speaks of Jesus as of Karistus. Something is really very wrong with Dante.

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Re: Question on Karistus

Check out my recent post on the Karistus, I share a perspective on the relation between Jesus and Karistus.

Yes its a mess, but there was a Karistus man with the DK title (his real name unknown so far) but the Krystil title is what the Cabal took to call their fictitious Jesus character; this leading to mass confusion now, as people think Jesus character was that Karistus male, when that's not so. We never learned the name of that DK Karistus, but it's clever of the Cabal to name their character Krystil since people don't know that is a title, not a name, for an 'ascended,' being.

So when stellar races say there was a Jesus, they mean there was a Karistus being with the DK title (and yes, Karistus aren't G.F) that existed; but due to names and equivalent association it's confusing to translate, (in Earth terms).


Greta wrote:
Brahman wrote:

By the way Ra says Jesus will not return but if he plans to it will be through the federation and channeling.

Interesting Ra did not mention Jesus in relation to Karistus. Swaruu says Karistus are not part of Federation means Ra completely disconnects them from Jesus. But Dante speaks of Jesus as of Karistus. Something is really very wrong with Dante.

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#21 2022-03-10 08:56:46

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Re: Question on Karistus

We know the name = Azazel
Yes it is all very confusing.
But just in case we listen to other disclosures.

Seeker_Ivy wrote:

Check out my recent post on the Karistus, I share a perspective on the relation between Jesus and Karistus.

Yes its a mess, but there was a Karistus man with the DK title (his real name unknown so far) but the Krystil title is what the Cabal took to call their fictitious Jesus character; this leading to mass confusion now, as people think Jesus character was that Karistus male, when that's not so. We never learned the name of that DK Karistus, but it's clever of the Cabal to name their character Krystil since people don't know that is a title, not a name, for an 'ascended,' being.

So when stellar races say there was a Jesus, they mean there was a Karistus being with the DK title (and yes, Karistus aren't G.F) that existed; but due to names and equivalent association it's confusing to translate, (in Earth terms).


Greta wrote:
Brahman wrote:

By the way Ra says Jesus will not return but if he plans to it will be through the federation and channeling.

Interesting Ra did not mention Jesus in relation to Karistus. Swaruu says Karistus are not part of Federation means Ra completely disconnects them from Jesus. But Dante speaks of Jesus as of Karistus. Something is really very wrong with Dante.

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#22 2022-03-10 09:05:27

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No, Azazel was not the name of the Karistus with the DK title that was being referred to as Krystil, (they are two different Karistus men). Because even Azazel was said to follow this Krystil individual, meaning it wasn't himself he was following but another.

Greta wrote:

We know the name = Azazel
Yes it is all very confusing.
But just in case we listen to other disclosures.

Seeker_Ivy wrote:

Check out my recent post on the Karistus, I share a perspective on the relation between Jesus and Karistus.

Yes its a mess, but there was a Karistus man with the DK title (his real name unknown so far) but the Krystil title is what the Cabal took to call their fictitious Jesus character; this leading to mass confusion now, as people think Jesus character was that Karistus male, when that's not so. We never learned the name of that DK Karistus, but it's clever of the Cabal to name their character Krystil since people don't know that is a title, not a name, for an 'ascended,' being.

So when stellar races say there was a Jesus, they mean there was a Karistus being with the DK title (and yes, Karistus aren't G.F) that existed; but due to names and equivalent association it's confusing to translate, (in Earth terms).


Greta wrote:

Interesting Ra did not mention Jesus in relation to Karistus. Swaruu says Karistus are not part of Federation means Ra completely disconnects them from Jesus. But Dante speaks of Jesus as of Karistus. Something is really very wrong with Dante.

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#23 2022-03-10 09:35:28

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Haha this is funny, but you seem to think it's serious; Putin is a confirmed puppet of the Cabal by the Taygetans and Swaruunians. Since the Taygetans work closely with the Karistus, they wouldn't call out Putin as working for the Cabal if he was really one of the 4 Karistus brothers. And Dante Santori isn't a Karistus, he shared so many blatant lies about history (things the Taygetans gave the truth on) that if he was a Karistus how odd he doesn't know the same information since the two races know each other so well. Then again, whatever public information there is on Karistus seems to be very distorted (by their Vlash enemies) and so far none from their side have come out sharing the truth.

Thanks for the link though, interesting read even if it lacks truth, (as in, it reads exactly as if Santori wrote it himself).

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#25 2022-03-10 09:45:29

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Seeker_Ivy wrote:

Haha this is funny, but you seem to think it's serious; Putin is a confirmed puppet of the Cabal by the Taygetans and Swaruunians. Since the Taygetans work closely with the Karistus, they wouldn't call out Putin as working for the Cabal if he was really one of the 4 Karistus brothers. And Dante Santori isn't a Karistus, he shared so many blatant lies about history (things the Taygetans gave the truth on) that if he was a Karistus how odd he doesn't know the same information since the two races know each other so well. Then again, whatever public information there is on Karistus seems to be very distorted (by their Vlash enemies) and so far none from their side have come out sharing the truth.

Thanks for the link though, interesting read even if it lacks truth, (as in, it reads exactly as if Santori wrote it himself).

I didn't say I was taking it seriously, I just found this information. Swaruu recommended Dante Santori channel as a reliable source of information on Karistus. Here, in the second reply of Swaruu 9
https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/jupit … a-pleiades
Swaruu (9): The best source of information about Karistus is the DS AHK channel.

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