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#51 2022-04-22 03:17:02

Kahi Harawira
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

That's a wrap

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#52 2022-04-22 08:04:41

Tigerhawk
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Aneeka's pissed and I don't blame her.

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#53 2022-04-22 10:48:15

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Thanks. However, thats a bit old. I mean, Aneeka said that after their first video of "we dont resonate" months ago. And its full of strange mistakes as it was translated by Google I think. At the moment Aneeka is taking a break from online interactions.

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#54 2022-04-22 14:29:46

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Gosia: "At the moment Aneeka is taking a break from online interactions. "

For the C and E I hope the Karmic consequences of fucking up disclosure for an entire planet are beyond painful. May retribution for you two be just.

Gosia, we thank you for the dedication and updates from your side and Robert's. When the trolls attack hard you message is catching fire and deserves to be heard. Hopefully their actions don't discourage future dialogues being shared publicly.

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#55 2022-04-22 15:24:17

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Aneeke wrote:

I see it as a direct attack against us. And I don't forgive them. They were released to hurt

Sounds like a lack of compassion (jeshua healing energy). Given the context this is understandable.

Also, I'm aware that talking about forgiving is much much easier than actually it. After all, I'm seeing all this go down from the sidelines.

Either way, seems like in spite of all their wisdom, these Taygetian ETs are still learning.


Finally, I'm pretty sure that banning and deleting certain "adversarial" stuff (like I've already seen happen in this forum) is not an effective way to deal with such "negativity". On the other hand, I cannot think of a clearly better way; but even so, I insist that moderating them away is bad practice because...

As I understand things, this is a forum which means part of its purpose is to store "history" which includes silly (nonsensical) flame wars and conversations that go nowhere. This makes it different from "published" (produced, edited, postproduced) writtings and videos.

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#56 2022-04-22 15:50:40

Tigerhawk
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

naringas wrote:
Aneeke wrote:

I see it as a direct attack against us. And I don't forgive them. They were released to hurt

Sounds like a lack of compassion (jeshua healing energy). Given the context this is understandable.

Also, I'm aware that talking about forgiving is much much easier than actually it. After all, I'm seeing all this go down from the sidelines.

Either way, seems like in spite of all their wisdom, these Taygetian ETs are still learning.

Gosia as said from the beginning that they're just people. They're not angelic beings of love and light, so they're not going to be perfect. They're also a very emotional race and this looks like a very emotional "heat of the moment" response from Aneeka. Like you said, given the context, it's understandable.

naringas wrote:

Finally, I'm pretty sure that banning and deleting certain "adversarial" stuff (like I've already seen happen in this forum) is not an effective way to deal with such "negativity". On the other hand, I cannot think of a clearly better way; but even so, I insist that moderating them away is bad practice because...

As I understand things, this is a forum which means part of its purpose is to store "history" which includes silly (nonsensical) flame wars and conversations that go nowhere. This makes it different from "published" (produced, edited, postproduced) writtings and videos.

The problem is there are people who are actually paid to come on this forum to troll and create discord.

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#57 2022-04-22 16:06:05

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

naringas wrote:

Finally, I'm pretty sure that banning and deleting certain "adversarial" stuff (like I've already seen happen in this forum) is not an effective way to deal with such "negativity". On the other hand, I cannot think of a clearly better way; but even so, I insist that moderating them away is bad practice because...

As I understand things, this is a forum which means part of its purpose is to store "history" which includes silly (nonsensical) flame wars and conversations that go nowhere. This makes it different from "published" (produced, edited, postproduced) writtings and videos.

This is wrong wish-thinking or twisting to make this place's handling appear as negative, because Gosia made clear several times what this place is about and why people are removed.

Not bothering to copy it for you, you can read it up on your own if you accept bursting your bubble.

In fact, the same intentionally yet falsely applied negative thinking goes for your comment on the Taygetans not being in contact right now: They already were not active but only the Swaruus before this incident.

So, to summarize: You are construing negativity from nothing but your own twistings and uninformedness. I strongly advise to stop such, because in doing so you put yourself right in line with the trolls that got removed for good reasons.

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#58 2022-04-22 16:15:03

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

I've been involved in forums before where you had a hand full of people constantly arguing with one another and ruining the discussions for everyone else. People who don't want to argue get turned off and stop participating. Leave the agents of chaos to the comment section on YouTube.

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#59 2022-04-22 17:29:54

naringas
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

well, I'm new on this forum. I recently found this topic https://forum.swaruu.org/viewtopic.php?id=1605

In it, the moderation team has chosen to ban people but also have left those discussions online as they seem to be useful (which suggests we actually agree).

I just wanna insist that chaos is necessary for life (same as order) removing either leads to bad places. I insist like this because I'm troubled by a sensation that many are being driven into an exclusive light-only direction which to me personally seems quite (potentially) dark.

Robert369 wrote:

In fact, the same intentionally yet falsely applied negative thinking goes for your comment on the Taygetans not being in contact right now: They already were not active but only the Swaruus before this incident.

I haven't learned the difference between Taygetans and Swaruus (I thought Taygetans are a group and Swaruu an individual?); is this summarized anywhere?

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#60 2022-04-22 17:39:57

Robert369
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

naringas wrote:

I haven't learned the difference between Taygetans and Swaruus (I thought Taygetans are a group and Swaruu an individual?); is this summarized anywhere?

Then you have one reason more to firstly learn what this place and content is about before you judge anything, be it the forum or the Taygetans' methods.

There is a transcript section in which you can search for what you seek using key words, or by going through the video/transcript headlines. One of the videos explains what "the Swaruus" are.


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#61 2022-04-22 21:25:38

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Gosia wrote:

Thanks. However, thats a bit old. I mean, Aneeka said that after their first video of "we dont resonate" months ago. And its full of strange mistakes as it was translated by Google I think. At the moment Aneeka is taking a break from online interactions.

Yes, I should have specified it was from back then hmm
I thought I'd share it as it shows how hurt the Taygetans were by the PK girls actions and that they have strong emotional responses just like us.
The more like us the Taygetans seem, the more I like them and can relate to them.
I hope this latest episode hasn't done too much further damage and can be resolved one way or another.
There is obviously more to the story. Gosia has said Estel-la had "complex personal entanglements with Taygetans". An obvious private matter but none-the-less intriguing (is it not?) smile


Most experiences are unsayable, they happen in a space that no word has ever entered    Rainer Maria Rilke

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#62 2022-04-22 22:26:16

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

naringas wrote:

I haven't learned the difference between Taygetans and Swaruus (I thought Taygetans are a group and Swaruu an individual?); is this summarized anywhere?

The story of the Swaruu's can be heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzTjcmjVJ3s

And here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsmbJIIJnCM

Enjoy smile It's a fascinating tale!
And welcome!


Most experiences are unsayable, they happen in a space that no word has ever entered    Rainer Maria Rilke

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#63 2022-04-23 00:06:09

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I am getting on a bit in human years and my comprehension of things has become a little more elastic since my personal discovery of CA and the interstellar team. Due to my natural distrust of the reality erected around me, it took me a long time to verify that this CA interaction, did in fact, hold substance.

Apart from all the incredible details which have been transmitted, the greatest lesson I have learnt from the Taygetean mission, is that of frequencies, and that has lead to identifying the essential role that it plays in everyday life.

Knowledge by itself is not enough. Frequencies count more than perceptions.

In any mass venture, such as this one, there is always varying levels of frequencies. The higher the frequency, the less that have it or at least that has been my experience. Knowledge, by itself, is not a sufficient enough measure because it leads to natural competitiveness.

I like the idea of keeping this forum clean of lower frequencies and by implication, lower intentions. Including enforcing it to enable the capacity of choice. There are plenty of other opportunities to interface with lower frequencies elsewhere, but I find the need to associate with them is becoming less and less. I suppose one could say that this would lead to the formation of an “exclusive club” of sorts but I don't see that at all, all I see are frequencies.

Being a part of an indigenous community, the high frequencies displayed by certain elders, becomes the basis by which respect is given by all others. Of course there is always the competing opinion that “all opinions are equally deserving” and that these elders are no better than anyone else. But higher frequencies displayed, always holds sway.

I cannot help but smile at this also playing out in this forum and am encouraged at the commitment to defend a preference for higher frequencies or at least that which I am already familiar with. I am both heartened and privileged to be here among you all. Thank you.

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#64 2022-04-23 00:50:07

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Robert369 wrote:

This is wrong wish-thinking or twisting to make this place's handling appear as negative, because Gosia made clear several times what this place is about and why people are removed.

Not bothering to copy it for you, you can read it up on your own if you accept bursting your bubble.

I've got it here. The rules of the forum posted by Matias.

Matias wrote:

- Respect others.
- No Trolling or Insulting others.
- Post in your respective language.
- No advertising your own companys.
- No pornografic material, language or links.
- Individuals with activity history to stir unnecessary commotion with the view to question Taygeteans´ integrity will be removed.
- Refrain from heavily promoting other Taygetan forums/groups, and from recruiting THIS forum members to others.

Brake the rules and you will be banned. Zero tolerance for misbehaving.

There you have it, in case anyone wonders why the moderators ban who they do. At the end of the day it's Gosia's forum and she can run it however she wants.

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#65 2022-04-23 01:55:50

naringas
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Kahi Harawira wrote:

I am getting on a bit in human years and my comprehension of things has become a little more elastic since my personal discovery of CA and the interstellar team. Due to my natural distrust of the reality erected around me, it took me a long time to verify that this CA interaction, did in fact, hold substance.

Apart from all the incredible details which have been transmitted, the greatest lesson I have learnt from the Taygetean mission, is that of frequencies, and that has lead to identifying the essential role that it plays in everyday life.

Knowledge by itself is not enough. Frequencies count more than perceptions.

In any mass venture, such as this one, there is always varying levels of frequencies. The higher the frequency, the less that have it or at least that has been my experience. Knowledge, by itself, is not a sufficient enough measure because it leads to natural competitiveness.

I like the idea of keeping this forum clean of lower frequencies and by implication, lower intentions. Including enforcing it to enable the capacity of choice. There are plenty of other opportunities to interface with lower frequencies elsewhere, but I find the need to associate with them is becoming less and less. I suppose one could say that this would lead to the formation of an “exclusive club” of sorts but I don't see that at all, all I see are frequencies.

Being a part of an indigenous community, the high frequencies displayed by certain elders, becomes the basis by which respect is given by all others. Of course there is always the competing opinion that “all opinions are equally deserving” and that these elders are no better than anyone else. But higher frequencies displayed, always holds sway.

I cannot help but smile at this also playing out in this forum and am encouraged at the commitment to defend a preference for higher frequencies or at least that which I am already familiar with. I am both heartened and privileged to be here among you all. Thank you.

thank you for this comment, it has got me thinking about a subtle distinction between "negative intentions (energies)" and "low frequencies". Now I'm wondering to which extent these two notions overlap?

In a certain sense "intentions" correspond exactly to "energies". Additionally (and still in a restricted sense), frequencies are a way to perceive energies or intentions.

I'm trying to clear up my own understanding here, and I'm noticing an apparent inherent relation (or connection) between low frequencies and negative intentions. I am driven to question this. Why should low frequencies be inherently negative?



In any case, I agree with the sentiment that just knowing things is not sufficient. The way I see it, there's an additional and necessary pragmatic aspect. In my understanding this corresponds to perception.

What's really quite amazing, is how knowledge is able to expand perception. And it's been extremely surprising to me to find that there exists knowledge that's been crafted in such a way that it diminishes perception. I'm still wrapping my head around this.

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#66 2022-04-23 06:48:22

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Low frequency(low vibration) in terms of consciousness means slow thinking, low memory, less knowledge, slow intuition, lesser cognitive capabilities which is lesser narrower consciousness. In terms of energy-matter means slow manifestation to the point that is so slow you even start to believe it's impossible to do and you do not manifest anything. Negative means - negation of the absolute truth. When someone start to negate the absolute truth goes into negative spiraling of consciousness. His/her consciousness gets narrow and narrower.

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#67 2022-04-23 08:14:02

Gosia
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Most people you seem banned IS THE SAME PERSON who stalks us, his name is Luk, who, once banned, opens up new accounts over and over again. Thats mostly who you see banned around here. Same dude. wink smile

Tigerhawk wrote:
Robert369 wrote:

This is wrong wish-thinking or twisting to make this place's handling appear as negative, because Gosia made clear several times what this place is about and why people are removed.

Not bothering to copy it for you, you can read it up on your own if you accept bursting your bubble.

I've got it here. The rules of the forum posted by Matias.

Matias wrote:

- Respect others.
- No Trolling or Insulting others.
- Post in your respective language.
- No advertising your own companys.
- No pornografic material, language or links.
- Individuals with activity history to stir unnecessary commotion with the view to question Taygeteans´ integrity will be removed.
- Refrain from heavily promoting other Taygetan forums/groups, and from recruiting THIS forum members to others.

Brake the rules and you will be banned. Zero tolerance for misbehaving.

There you have it, in case anyone wonders why the moderators ban who they do. At the end of the day it's Gosia's forum and she can run it however she wants.

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#68 2022-04-23 11:32:40

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High frequency is joy but not a joy that is experienced over other's misfortune and joy of success when someone is hurt by your success. This is the opposite effect, your vibration will go down. In competition and war there are no winners.

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#69 2022-04-23 12:08:18

mitkobs
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Sure there are such people(and tulpas looking like people) and that is not exactly joy they feel, but malice with twisted smile on the face.

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#70 2022-04-23 12:12:03

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microvirus6 wrote:

Last edit: I guess I was somewhat primed for taking a smear vid like this seriously because a couple Taygetan claims have not lined up with my experience. For instance, before 2020 I had never heard of anyone completely losing their smell from a cold/flu/whatever. Then when the pandemic happened, I knew of and heard of many people with this symptom, including my own sister and her boyfriend. So at the very least it seems like at the same time plandemic happened, a new pathogen or at least a new syndrome emerged. And anyway, if cabal aims for total belief in the plandemic, why not use one of the pathogens that they're manufacturing anyway, on top of the propaganda campaign?

Idk. The Law of Confusion has its charms though doesn't it?


You mean ignorance is bliss?  I also took loss of smell as a relevant symptom, until I remembered childhood. My father had this frequently with cold or flu. Mother heard it first as “the food has no taste”.  It got better after he stopped smoking. 

To me, it seems the list of symptoms attributed to a novel corona-virus could be caused my many things, including environmental and nutritional causes. I stopped taking it seriously many times, including when I realized according to flu shot theory, novel viruses appear regularly, that is why it is hit-or-miss. Yet, mankind has been around for millennia before inventing vaccinations, so for most of us the immune system deals with that just fine. 

I found this statement remarkable. Cannot verify, but rings true to me.

Published 2020-04-10 Message to Starseeds: Extraterrestrial Pleiadian Communication (Taygeta)

They already manipulate everything. They already have everything. They only give people what they always give them. A worldwide chaos. They couldn't have their Third World War? So they put together this nonsense. But they must always keep the population on alarm for something. That´s why the work of the Doctors here is very important. Let them understand that they are the key to helping humanity ... stop thinking about your wallets and your personal fame.

Economy. This lets call it a bug crashing the economy is silly, they will crash it or not ... on their own, with their agendas. Not for reasons that seem "out of control". The economy is portrayed as if it were a conscious and unpredictable being. It is not. It is under their total control. These psychopaths in power would NOT leave anything in the air, at random. They control everything. Whether or not the economy crashes depends on their ideas and their agendas, not on anything external or accidental. Therefore they would NOT release any real virus. Because they would NOT have any control over it. And if they do want something it is control. And they know that the media is enough.


☀️ What looks foolish at first may be genius in another context. Or vice versa. Always test
☘️ Everyone is a beginner at something. All rights reserved to know more tomorrow than today.

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#71 2022-04-23 16:56:26

naringas
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

mitkobs wrote:

Low frequency(low vibration) in terms of consciousness means slow thinking, low memory, less knowledge, slow intuition, lesser cognitive capabilities which is lesser narrower consciousness. In terms of energy-matter means slow manifestation to the point that is so slow you even start to believe it's impossible to do and you do not manifest anything. Negative means - negation of the absolute truth. When someone start to negate the absolute truth goes into negative spiraling of consciousness. His/her consciousness gets narrow and narrower.

I think you're talking about two different things. (ultimately, frequency of vibration even when taken as one thing, can also be analyzed into two distinct things; and in specially complex situations they have to be understood on both levels)

I will rephrase what you are saying (I apologize if I don't do it right, if so, please feel free to correct me if you want)

You give two ways to see (or think about) low frequency (or vibration speed). one in terms of consciousness, another in terms of energy-matter.

In terms of consciousness, you say that low frequency means slow, without too much memory (knowledge) and in general dumber. low frequencies mean dumb.
I agree that lower frequencies are slower, but why associate slowness with stupidity?

I am also skeptical of associating low frequencies with narrow consciousness. In general lower frequencies travel father and are more difficult to block, they spread out more which I associate with a broader reach; the opposite of a narrow point-like focus. Then again, lower frequencies have smaller wavelengths (but why connect wavelength to consciousness? I need to ponder this a bit more).

In terms of energy-matter, you say things happen slowly, to the point that things do not even happen. To me this evokes a lack of patience.

You say that negativity is a denial of absolute truth. This strikes me as an exclusively positive mindset. It troubles me that I perceive an equivalent but opposite stance in which an exclusively negative viewpoint says that its own negative truth is denied by the positive.

Finally, you say that negating "absolute truth" sends them who deny this absolute into a narrowing spiral. This seems accurate to me.
However, what if this assertion (with which I agree) were re-framed in terms of convergence? like so: "negating the truth (accepting the falsehood) makes one narrower until one converges with what one has accepted "

The way I think (which admittedly may be "poisoned") drives me to abstract the specific object of acceptance (and its corresponding object of rejection); the accepted object becomes like a variable in an equation and then I'm able to focus on the pattern of convergence, and finally, in this perspective (in this frame) I consider the nature of convergence and divergence.

This is me thinking out loud in this forum, I question things to understand them. This post is now way off-topic. Maybe this should be on another topic or I dunno.

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#72 2022-04-23 18:52:55

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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

Low vibration is ignorance. Call it stupidity, disinformation, laziness even, however you like, it is in general narrower vision. Negating is not seen as negating but thinking and believing that this is the truth. And not seeing that is not. Blindness of the mind.

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#73 2022-04-24 00:57:55

HeadRush
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Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

More garbage from the girls, nothing new

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#74 2022-04-25 00:17:38

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microvirus6 wrote:

Last edit: I guess I was somewhat primed for taking a smear vid like this seriously because a couple Taygetan claims have not lined up with my experience. For instance, before 2020 I had never heard of anyone completely losing their smell from a cold/flu/whatever. Then when the pandemic happened, I knew of and heard of many people with this symptom, including my own sister and her boyfriend. So at the very least it seems like at the same time plandemic happened, a new pathogen or at least a new syndrome emerged. And anyway, if cabal aims for total belief in the plandemic, why not use one of the pathogens that they're manufacturing anyway, on top of the propaganda campaign?

itriedmybest11 wrote:

@M, you haven't read all the transtripts, have you? 5G towers and graphene and 2020's vaccinees' bodies are the source of those "virus" and this technology is at Galactic level (Fede*censored*ion level smile ).


Thanks for the response, I appreciate it because I'm trying to work this all out.

I am up to date with the transcripts, and what you're saying makes sense in general, however the severe-flu-with-no-sense-of-smell syndrome was happening to people (including my sister and her boyfriend) in 2020 before anyone was vaccinated. And if I'm not mistaken, Taygetan communication has been very consistent all along that there is no pathogen, no "virus", no syndrome whatsoever corresponding to what we call covid. (Up until people started getting injected of course, which is a whole other story.)


And @Cocreatr, I've stopped taking it seriously too for the most part. My only point was trying to take something I have concrete personal experience with and comparing it to Taygetan info, to try to get closer to knowing for sure what's really true / trustworthy. However, it seems like with every single issue it's impossible to get to full certainty- there's always wiggle room for doubt (and therefore for creating your own beliefs/ reality- which is the charming part!)

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#75 2022-04-25 00:29:40

Re: Pleadian Knowledge new video w/claims of fraud?

microvirus6 wrote:
microvirus6 wrote:

Last edit: I guess I was somewhat primed for taking a smear vid like this seriously because a couple Taygetan claims have not lined up with my experience. For instance, before 2020 I had never heard of anyone completely losing their smell from a cold/flu/whatever. Then when the pandemic happened, I knew of and heard of many people with this symptom, including my own sister and her boyfriend. So at the very least it seems like at the same time plandemic happened, a new pathogen or at least a new syndrome emerged. And anyway, if cabal aims for total belief in the plandemic, why not use one of the pathogens that they're manufacturing anyway, on top of the propaganda campaign?

itriedmybest11 wrote:

@M, you haven't read all the transtripts, have you? 5G towers and graphene and 2020's vaccinees' bodies are the source of those "virus" and this technology is at Galactic level (Fede*censored*ion level smile ).


Thanks for the response, I appreciate it because I'm trying to work this all out.

I am up to date with the transcripts, and what you're saying makes sense in general, however the severe-flu-with-no-sense-of-smell syndrome was happening to people (including my sister and her boyfriend) in 2020 before anyone was vaccinated. And if I'm not mistaken, Taygetan communication has been very consistent all along that there is no pathogen, no "virus", no syndrome whatsoever corresponding to what we call covid. (Up until people started getting injected of course, which is a whole other story.)

It is my understanding that sufficient amounts of nanographene have been present in chemtrails, food, water, and other vaccines before 2020 to contaminate a significant portion of the population enough to be activated by the deployment of 5g in 2020, creating the original wave of symptoms that they called the virus.


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