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#26 2022-05-17 18:48:47

microvirus6
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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

I don't think it's that complicated or confusing. On the outer level of practical strategy and action, we keep it up, take it to the next level even. Keep building the ascended timeline every day, keep spreading awakening in small ways, keep organizing, keep being an absolute nuisance to any trying to herd the sheep.

On the inner level, we treat the cabal (tulpas, ancient family members, figureheads) as OUR OWN SHADOW. Because that's what they are. What do we do with our own shadow? What do we do with those disowned parts of ourselves? Heal, forgive, balance, reintegrate. Say "I know that you're a part of me. I birthed you for a reason that made sense at the time. It's OK, I accept you're there, but you're just not serving the reality I want to create anymore, so I'm making something new to take the driver's seat."

Maybe I'm deluded, but what's going on in China feels very Hitler-in-the-bunker. The old powers are on the ropes, they see that everything they do backfires and wakes up more people, credible professionals in every field are calling them out openly and clearly. So they hole up in their greatest stronghold and try to extract one last surge of suffering, hoping against hope they can turn the tide.


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#27 2022-05-18 00:21:45

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

In the next few days, on Sunday the 22nd, I believe, the WHO (very important arm of total human control) will have a meeting to consolidate the health tyranny, which it has been intentionally collecting from most world governments.

The Cabal continues to make strides even though on the surface there seems to be a "truce" at the moment.

When that global mandate is consolidated, and it will be soon if it is not avoided, the WHO will rule over the human bodies of practically the entire world, and we know what its intentions are, without a soul, without mercy.

It is time to fight with all the resources, not to ask for forgiveness. It's more; we are losing for a lot, we are not in a position to forgive, but to save ourselves (or so we should try).

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#28 2022-05-18 04:05:59

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

For extreme invasive evil cannot be forgiveness, not possible, it cannot be repaired. Have to be neutralized. Only way to do that is to unplug the attention span from it. No one to feed it with attention. No one to fear. No one to subordinate to its absurd commands. The effective fight of evil is to increase the goodness, increase of Love, increase of caring. Every other way will fail or will bring only temporal solution and then things will become harder and more cruel.

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#29 2022-05-18 07:01:56

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

mitkobs wrote:

For extreme invasive evil cannot be forgiveness, not possible, it cannot be repaired. Have to be neutralized. Only way to do that is to unplug the attention span from it. No one to feed it with attention. No one to fear. No one to subordinate to its absurd commands. The effective fight of evil is to increase the goodness, increase of Love, increase of caring. Every other way will fail or will bring only temporal solution and then things will become harder and more cruel.

I know people who have psychic abilities and see the reason behind the actions of such beings. I was especially told about some people around me that they feed emotionally on dramas and therefore provoke them, but because I do not allow them to myself and they can not harm me. They told me that the other way was to be compassionate to them. I also feel compassion sometimes and I would say that they like me even if I don't give in to them emotionally. I am often told from both sides "good and bad" that they want to be like me and not be influenced by their emotions and the attitude of others. The difference between them and me is that I don't try to please others. And they always want others to agree with them and think they are right. Therefore, they need attention, but if someone lets them very close or trust them, they become obsessive and cannot have a normal relationship with such beings.


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#30 2022-05-18 07:31:54

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What means to be compassionate for someone or something that want you dead/non existant, that want you to suffer endlessly, to burn in flames, want to take everything from you including your soul? And it is attacking relentlessly. Cannot negociate with it. It wants what it wants and until not having it do not give up in attempts. Will eat you alive litteraly when first chance is presented.

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#31 2022-05-18 08:00:05

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

mitkobs wrote:

What means to be compassionate for someone or something that want you dead/non existant, that want you to suffer endlessly, to burn in flames, want to take everything from you including your soul? And it is attacking relentlessly. Cannot negociate with it. It wants what it wants and until not having it do not give up in attempts. Will eat you alive litteraly when first chance is presented.

While understandable from a lower perspective, your thoughts are too much caught up in low frequency duality if you wish to make personal progress out of that loop.

Humanity is in the process of outgrowing this kind of thinking to get ready for its high frequency future, because everything can be healed - albeit oftentimes not in this lifetime, which means that it will happen in another incarnation after this one gets ended to stop the madness. And by that Humanity heals from within too - along with all the universe that also suffers from what is going on here (and elsewhere).

Try to be your greater self by understanding that you cannot fight fire with fire. But you can extinguish it (including within oneself) and relocate external ones to where they belong, so that  balance is restored. Because good cannot exist without evil, as without it it would become the new evil and new good would raise.


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#32 2022-05-18 08:50:53

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I do not have problems Robert, I do not complain here about anything. I show you how the things are.
Robert, please refrain of giving me your advices when not asked. People here ask questions, I give answers from my point of view. Nothing else. Not here to discuss or argue your point of view or what you think about my point of view.

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#33 2022-05-18 09:02:56

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

Robert369 wrote:

Try to be your greater self by understanding that you cannot fight fire with fire. ...

Um, ironically; a common technique of dealing with gas/well fires is with the use if explosives. I guess it in that situation it comes down to the stronger force dominating the weaker by denying it a requirement of existence.

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#34 2022-05-18 14:43:54

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

mitkobs wrote:

For extreme invasive evil cannot be forgiveness, not possible, it cannot be repaired. Have to be neutralized. Only way to do that is to unplug the attention span from it. No one to feed it with attention. No one to fear. No one to subordinate to its absurd commands. The effective fight of evil is to increase the goodness, increase of Love, increase of caring. Every other way will fail or will bring only temporal solution and then things will become harder and more cruel.

mitkobs wrote:

I do not have problems Robert, I do not complain here about anything. I show you how the things are.
Robert, please refrain of giving me your advices when not asked. People here ask questions, I give answers from my point of view. Nothing else. Not here to discuss or argue your point of view or what you think about my point of view.

thing is, (and maybe robert369 sees this too) is that you seem like you're well on your way but not yet there. you may not have questions but you have conflict.

for instance, you're complaining that the solution would be termporary.... well, d'oh... life is always temporary.

and you say you cannot forgive extreme invasive evil which makes me wonder what's the difference between letting go and forgiving? (I ask myself this from my usual abstractive/generalist perspective)

you're still framing good/evil (or light-dark, order-chaos, yin-yang, etc..) as a fight, so a fight it will be...


all them languages and vocabularies are making it difficult to communicate...  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#35 2022-05-18 17:23:36

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

naringas wrote:

you may not have questions but you have conflict.

for instance, you're complaining that the solution would be termporary.... well, d'oh... life is always temporary.
you're still framing good/evil (or light-dark, order-chaos, yin-yang, etc..) as a fight, so a fight it will be...

Confirming all of those things. Humanity needs to get out of these patterns if there shall be a worthy future, else we continue to live the past - and all its problems.

naringas wrote:

and you say you cannot forgive extreme invasive evil which makes me wonder what's the difference between letting go and forgiving? (I ask myself this from my usual abstractive/generalist perspective)

Besides this being self-programming, the difference between them is that true forgiveness includes "accepting and integrating" and propels you forwards in your personal development. The other just pushes it away aka attempts to sweep it under the carpet, which is impossible because unresolved issues will pile up and bite you in the back later while ruining your life and energies from within.


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#36 2022-05-18 18:14:04

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Re: Forgive the cabal? Letting go to move on

microvirus6 wrote:

I don't think it's that complicated or confusing. On the outer level of practical strategy and action, we keep it up, take it to the next level even. Keep building the ascended timeline every day, keep spreading awakening in small ways, keep organizing, keep being an absolute nuisance to any trying to herd the sheep.

On the inner level, we treat the cabal (tulpas, ancient family members, figureheads) as OUR OWN SHADOW. Because that's what they are. What do we do with our own shadow? What do we do with those disowned parts of ourselves? Heal, forgive, balance, reintegrate. Say "I know that you're a part of me. I birthed you for a reason that made sense at the time. It's OK, I accept you're there, but you're just not serving the reality I want to create anymore, so I'm making something new to take the driver's seat."

Maybe I'm deluded, but what's going on in China feels very Hitler-in-the-bunker. The old powers are on the ropes, they see that everything they do backfires and wakes up more people, credible professionals in every field are calling them out openly and clearly. So they hole up in their greatest stronghold and try to extract one last surge of suffering, hoping against hope they can turn the tide.

I find this a pretty good summary of some important points, microvirus6, thanks. One of the things I've had to learn from Yazhi especially is that 'things look different from above'. Not only do they look different from above, but from many different 'levels' or perspectives. learning to live with different truths simultaneously without falling into 'either/or' has been a skill that I am still working with. I think it's an aspect of expanding consciousness beyond a simplistically dualistic experience.

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#37 2022-05-18 18:54:22

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@naringas nothing to complain. Solution for humanity is temporary because humanity is not ready as a whole to deal with own shadows. Increasing of goodness not going to happen soon in mass scale, people will not stop fearing the dark side, Love and caring will not increase enough and the world will not going to go in optimal direction like everyone want to go. This is not my battle, my battle is already won. Everyone personally should meet their shadows. That is the hardest part and no one can do that for others, it is personal internal battle. Battle within the own mind.

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#38 2022-05-19 00:41:23

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After listening to the invasive AI vid, the proposition of forgiving the Cabal does in fact hold substance. Knowing that they have no idea of what actually controls them, it is very unlikely that wanting to be gods, that even they would not want to end up as one dimensional beings. They simply are not the smartest cookies in the playpen.

The sooner they see this the better, although there is a high probability their attention could easily be distracted elsewhere.

Be that as it may, it is not (in my opinion) the time to lay down and discard the defense of the core as if everything can be immediately resolved by an outright denial that regressive agenda's exist. The entire concept can be contained as synthetic intelligence. A target to be destroyed that presents itself in its many forms. Playpen style. Never forgetting who we are.

I look behind me and see the up-coming generations. Life is short but we all get there anyway. So I don't find it a conflict of interest to enter a battleground knowing how much such frequencies tend to stick because in the end, the last generation which did the same to get me here obliges me to do the same to ensure the future of the next generation. A continuous stream of generations called humanity.

By simply using the avatar as a chess piece in a playpen game.

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#39 2022-05-19 21:03:10

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- Forgiving the Cabal is like forgiving a used care salesman that sold you a broken heap of a car.  It can help you to stop hating them (and those that are enacting their agenda.)  However, forgiveness must be paired with accountability.  Who is responsible for what?  What were the lies?  What wee the half truths?  What did we decided to believe because we wanted to?  When did we let go of control?  What did we get in return?

- Our primary goal is to take back responsibility (ownership) for our lives.  Forgiveness is a very powerful tool to regain control of a bad situation.  Some suggestions: Quiet your thoughts and emotions, evict the enemy from your heart and mind, take responsibility for your past, gain some distance, then reevaluate the situation.

- You can forgive your brother for burning down you house, but what if you catch him in the act?

- You can forgive the stove for burning you, but you must take your hand off it.

- Forgiveness becomes easer if you take responsibility for every element that you can.  If you kick a table with you bear pinky toe, do you hate the table?  Remove the element of helplessness, take responsibility for your part, and it becomes easer to forgive the table.

- When you are in control, forgiveness becomes a mercy and not a sacrifice.

- Doesn't  it seem odd that forgiveness becomes very important, as we stand on the brink of losing control?

- The Cabal knows how to redirect anger.  It's a power that they can use.

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#40 2022-05-19 22:29:33

microvirus6
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Great synthesis HotJolly, thank you. That's an important element I didn't see so clearly before: how taking accountability and forgiveness go hand in hand.

If I'm angry at "those bad guys in the world out there" I'm affirming the illusion that they have the power to control me. How can we blame THEM, when WE are the ones responsible for our own creations?

Probably a lot of us have been creating a regressive Earth through our own inaction (myself included). If we want something different we have take responsibility for our society, for our communities. If we're not guiding humanity, who will?

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#41 2022-05-20 03:46:00

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microvirus6 wrote:

I think many of you will find this an interesting read, communicated by a high-density Pleiadian entity/ social memory complex:

https://zingdad.com/publications/books/ … e-families

One theme is having compassion for, and forgiving, members of the cabal.

In my life in general, I know that "what you resist, persists" and that forgiveness is the best policy, yet I somehow excluded in my mind the enslavers of humanity. And now it seems obvious to me: the more people are focused on resentment, the more power they give to "the enemy". If we're to transition to a new world, perhaps an inner letting-go needs to happen.


Note: Of course, forgiving is not the same as becoming a doormat, and IMO we should all be working to subvert their plans and actively create the beautiful, free future that is our birthright. Only, perhaps forgiveness is a part of that process

I’m a Zingdad fan as well.  “The Ascension Diaries” was a big turning point for me.  I’ve even had a few sessions w/ him, couldn’t resist!

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#42 2022-05-20 08:14:41

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It is pointless to forgive someone who is invested in doing evil and do not want to change and do not want to take responsability for its own actions. You can forgive someone who made a mistake and realise the gravity of his/hers mistake and do not want to do it again because understands that this mistake is hurting the other side involved.

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#43 2022-05-20 10:24:20

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People are constantly missing the point that "the Cabals" (Earth+Space and beyond) were under mind-control (by that AI which now has been removed). There's no responsibility for actions while under remote control, and one cannot blame non-emotionals who have no defense against such for it.

Also, the grander picture is much more complex and undescribable here. Just be aware that only a very small portion of "evildoers" actually wanted it, and most (>75%) were utmostly unhappy with their deeds but were unable to act differently. What these people need is energetic healings and not punishment, which would just create more for them of that which they and we hate.

Approaching (mostly unknown to everyone in it, especially those in the 1-digit densities) universe-wide problems with a judgement through an extremely limited and non-understanding 3D lense makes one about as bad as those who get judged are. We can do better than that - and we must, if we wish to grow.

And growth is what life is about, while a life without is (yet another) wasted one. C'mon everyone, we can do better than that - no matter how much truth is in the "accusations" from the 3-7D perspective.


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#44 2022-05-21 05:00:24

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One aspect that I feel is poorly understood about federation morality is how it values individual bodies.  It doesn't.  To them, bodies are like cars... cars that practically grow on trees.  You can jump in one, do a few things, then be on your way.  A life is not important.  If you lose one, simply get another.  The same could be true millions of lives.  To them, the value is found in an stable culture, one that does not destroy itself, adds to the spiritual wealth of the universe, gets along well with the neighbors, maintains a reasonably positive relationships between the higher and lower dimensions, and withstands the tests of time.   humanity probably ranks pretty low in those regards.  Therefor, I doubt that they care much for our predicament.  In their minds, if we are unhappy here, we should simply incarnate elsewhere, and if our race disappears, it could easily be replaced.  Also, I doubt that they know much about living in the 3d Matrix, where past life memory is lost, incarnations intentions are perverted, dimensional perception is highly limited, and a from of spiritual madness abounds that compels many to tumble through life like a hunted, blind man in the jungle.  Hopefully the star seeds will show them the dangers of this place and the depth of the malice involved in how the mystery school is run.  On the other hand, the new wave of star seeds may indicate that  a fresh new spirit of humanity is emerging from this strange and difficult environment, ready to take it's place among the stars...

or... that a brand new slave race, with an angry spirit and freshly installed AI is ready for martial duty. 

One interesting thought: it will be a hell of a day when a million woke humans, seeped in "victim mentality," gunning for equality via a new socialist revolution, discover that they have been imprisoned on a literal "planet of oppression" as the galactic "Bourgeoisie" circle overhead in the comfort of their ships.  It may be the start of a larger revolution to make WW2 Germany seem like a walk in the park.  I wonder who would be behind that movement?  I wonder if they control the AI or if the AI controls them.  Maybe Earth politics is just for practice.  I wonder if "Attack of the Clones" was prophetic

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