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#26 2022-05-29 08:46:19

Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

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But how to make them better. They are calamity. No one wants them. No one want to be with them. Where to put them. What to do with them. So Federation give this place for them and let them be however they want to be and this what is happening. We do not know if this is helping for them. Can conclude that if the system is not removed from Federation then is working for the general good.

No, we cannot automatically and blindly conclude that this system is working for the general good, simply because the federation allows it to happen like this and doesn't take action to change this mess that they created. That would be an argument from authority, which is the very mentality that's harming this planet and its inhabitants. What is going on is against the ideals and principles in my heart and the hearts of many other starseeds. From a perspective based on empathy for peoples' suffering and legitimacy of emotionality, which are the hallmarks of progressive societies, this is wrong. The argument that the federation "knows better" because of their position as a 5d organization is an argument from authority, or in simple terms, "might makes right", which is an obvious fallacy. These beings are as imperfect at their core as any 3d incarnate human, just more privileged, and have shown their flaws time and again. To ignore their flaws is like saying "the emperor is wearing such a nice robe today", when he is clearly butt fucking naked and pissing all over himself and everyone around him. The majority of societies in the federation lean too heavily towards wisdom and discipline over love and empathy, of which they have little true understanding, which is an imbalance and an attribute of regressive societies.

Saying that the federation must automatically be right or know more or are more enlightened than human incarnate starseeds is the same blind mentality of "just trust the experts" that is destroying humanity and keeping them enslaved. We need to listen to our own hearts, not "trust the authorities". I don't know what is so difficult for you to understand about this concept about not automatically trusting authority and about empathy, and why you are not seeing the parallels here. I'm not the one to say for sure, but maybe this is part of your own learning process and reason for being here at this time, to evolve past your blind submission to cold authority just because they "currently reside on a higher density than your current incarnation", which is itself a fallacious concept. You speak often of living from the heart, yet does your heart not tell you that this is wrong? Would you trust the authority of some 5d bureaucracy over the authority of your own heart?

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#27 2022-05-29 10:12:17

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Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

You do not give solution what we have to do with the bad guys. They have to work something, to have occupation, to live somehow and somewhere. This is the most important question. If you are starseed you already have wonderful life in 5D, but a lot of people living in 3D who are not starseeds do not have that and not everyone from them are the bad guys, some are confused and stubborn, affected or apathetic, in other words wounded spiritually. And the reality is pressure cooker because everyone want to live for themselves and not letting others to live. How to make them change their mentality. If you give them all they want without working they will just take it again for themselves and again will not let others to live.
Pressure cooker create suffering and suffering soften hard convictions and stubborn blocked mentality. In one life some of them will be rich and will have everything, in the next they will live in misery and those before of misery will become on their place to torment them. They torment each other over and over till pressure cooker explodes and people have enough of this behavior. At least this is how I see the matrix working for greater good.

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#28 2022-05-29 10:24:46

Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

Of course not everyone stuck in 3d is bad, as I've said, 90% of them are flawed but decent at their core. Only 10% or less are truly regressive. Balance is what's needed. These people need enough adversity to learn, but enough hope and happiness to keep going and not get stuck in a negative cycle. Beating them down and making their lives complete hell isn't going to help them. It won't soften them, it will either harden them or break them completely. Murdering them and transhumanizing them by means they can't even comprehend with illegal technologies isn't going to help them.

Here's the solution of what to do with the 10% who are actual "bad guys": let them go to a society with only negatives, a regressive 5d society. They won't be stuck there forever. What this will do is allow them to either continue to gain power as negative polarity until they reach a density high enough to surpass duality and come to a realization of oneness, at which point they will choose to balance themselves towards the greater good, or they will suffer so much and be so unsuccessful in negative societies that they will stop seeing the reward in that type of behavior and will be able to be healed in the afterlife, and then choose a new incarnation where they won't repeat it. Letting them have power over a 3d population is not the answer.


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#29 2022-05-29 10:43:59

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Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

They cannot live in 5D. They are not really prisoners here like I already said. Their vibration is their imprisonment. 5D is not only fine life but at least there is mutual understanding between star races not to attack each other, to live in cooperation and respect. These evil people here cannot live in cooperation, they want to dominate, they want power over everybody, they want to crush others and take everything for themselves. They think they are better than everyone, superior, exclusive and everyone else are filthy peasants, scum of the earth low life. They are very hard to convince otherwise and suffering is the only way if there is a way or hope for them to change.

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#30 2022-05-29 10:55:48

Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

A 3d closed system as experienced on this planet is nothing but a synthetic aberration created by 5d races. 5d regressive races do not live in true cooperation and respect, no matter what sort of fragile truce is active between them and the federation and other races. Why do Taygetans have weapons for personal defense and on their ships? Why do they have a military presence and armed fighter craft? Because there is war and conflict in 5d. War, confilct, and duality are not exclusive in 3d, and a 3d system cut off from other densities is not a natural state, but a cruel experiment. The cabal can live in 5d, as Maitre or Vlash or whoever. They are the same vibration and mentality, just weaker because they have the opportunity to exploit innocent victims as sheep instead of competing against competent opponents to achieve their self-serving goals. And maybe suffering is required for them to change, but they don't need to drag the other 90% of the population down with them. Why even give them people to exploit and look down upon? Let them join purely regressive societies and compete with other predators, and try to mess with cohesive, progressive 5d societies that can and will fight back.

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#31 2022-05-29 14:40:08

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Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

They bring 3D in 5D and this is how they live in 5D(Like in Venus terraforming with 5G and HAARP). They actually continue to live like regressive beings and with that change the vibration of the place. They cannot live in real 5D vibration between real cordial loving people - they will choke, they will be disgusted by seeing people being so friendly to each other, how people understand each other and cooperate/help without ulterior motives.

Taygeta is armed because they had been burned tragically in the distant past and now they are covering all the bases. Same with all other galactic races. Who knows  - regressive aliens may appear suddenly from nowhere to attack and have to be ready to protect your kind. But that will not happen between now known races. They are beyond such actions. Only regressive race can do something like this.

If the bad guys are put together in one place without contrast they simply will kill each other as brutally as it sounds and the strongest and meanest will last on the top. When there are good people in the mix then there are different examples to see, different behavior to learn from.

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#32 2022-06-26 17:56:48

Re: let earth become "just another 5D planet"

This is a great discussion everyone.  Please speak up if you have something to add.


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