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#151 2022-12-01 09:23:34

mitkobs
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Hello again. Did you miss me...

It was a full ban for a week - not able to see the forum content at all. Not going to argue for banning me, but why using full ban. You can ban with restriction not to be able to login and sign up in the forum but to be able to see forum as guests and read what is posted. Still with VPN and other IP people are able to see the forum and sign up under new names.

So, for not to be banned again I will not talk to anyone here personally. This means will not address anyone personally, will keep what I say only in general terms.

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#152 2022-12-01 14:33:48

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

mitkobs,

Welcome back!

Yes, I actually did miss you. smile  Your perspectives are always (usually) well thought of, and your views normally add very good value to the topics you comment upon. Hence, in all fairness, this was not the best week for the forum. And given that you are (for the time being) the most prolific poster in the forum, you may appreciate the following:

Some breaches of conduct in this forum may lead to suspension (temporary) and banning (permanent). In particular, this concerns outright polarization and attacks on fellow forum members. Such polarization may be initiated by others, but the moment it happens, we often see defensive wording phrased offensively, with potential for further escalation on the conversation. It is considered unwanted negativity displayed, and is evaluated as such also when presented in subtle wording. It goes without saying that this is deteriorating for the social climate in the forum.

Cosmic Agency represents something unique in this world. Never before have we seen direct communication with other-worldly beings (people) over such long period, and available for review in the open society. We are even encouraged to view this site as their 'home'. So when we - as members of this 'home' - communicate here, our words can be reached by everybody with an internet-connection.

We have therefore adopted the policy of zero-tolerance for outright negative conduct, which is clearly stated in the forum rules.


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#153 2022-12-01 15:36:13

mitkobs
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Thank you Happy for your moderating work. Keep it this way, no tolerance for negativity and breaching of the rules. I am for law and order.

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#154 2022-12-28 07:20:15

mitkobs
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

All is one big mess we are created/creating in this reality. The dark side is totally our creation as Source and cannot exists without our attention. Remove attention and dissolves into nothing. It does not existed in the first place. We are making it collectively and personally subconsciously and unconsciously. This what Swaruus are saying over and over in different context. Reminding myself from here:
https://swaruu.org/transcripts/concienc … jedi-ronin

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#155 2022-12-28 08:33:27

Happy
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Gosia has made an English video of that conversation. Towards the end there, Swaruu of Erra explains very well why a fear-based reactive focus manifests much easier than a positive focus. It's all in the focus:



From: Reptilian Mind - Human Egregors (Swaruu D´Jedi Ronin - Extraterrestrial Communication - Pleiades); published April 17th, 2020.


Swaruu [48:16]: The principal point here is that you create it all down there. And you manifest negative things faster than positive things! Because negative things have all your attention and focus, and positive things are dispersed. You want a lemon lollipop, then the next minute you want a pineapple one, then a coconut one, then back to the lemon one. The universe does not know what you want, as you change what you want so much! If you focus on what you really want you would have the same manifestation power you have with the negative things you fear. This is not New age nonsense, it is how things work.

[...]

[50:24] FEAR Not and nothing can touch you. And as a colective as well. You do not need to fall into the perception of the people. Yet you are still subject to agreements. Perceptual agreements on how you will see things while you are there on Earth. But you can alter reality and I'm not talking about your individual reality bubble. I mean all the expanded reality with your mind!

[50:57] HOW? Learning how everything works! Being concentrated on what you want, like a laser beam, not all diffused all the time only concentrating on the things you fear. On those you do concentrate, don't you ?!

[51:15] Start little. Do not worry about things that are not under your control. That is a body response to anticipate a way out of problems in order to survive. That is FEAR again!

[51:31] Know thyself first to be able to know what you want. *Not what you don't want * <---<--- What you want. I was left with nothing, I was evicted from my house... Yes but I've got a comfy cardboard box and a bridge to shelter myself! It is your attitude towards what is going on what matters! Your focus. Know thyself. Do shadow work, and be responsible for your thoughts, as those are the ones that create.

[52:07] And that is how you fix the world.


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#156 2022-12-28 09:34:39

mitkobs
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Face fear - shadow work. And make yourself not to fear of anything - this is the result of facing of fear. The greatest fear is this of dying and horrible dying, painful dying, slow dying, torturing dying, lonely dying. Also to fear the living in the unknown and in different limitation. Fearing the predatory energy and the aggression. Fearing of not having, fearing of being alone, fearing losing everything valuable and what the body and mind needs in daily basis. Fear is taking attention when one is fearing something.

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#157 2022-12-28 09:38:25

Happy
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

mitkobs wrote:

Face fear - shadow work. And make yourself not to fear of anything - this is the result of facing of fear. The greatest fear is this of dying and horrible dying, painful dying, slow dying, torturing dying, lonely dying. Also to fear the living in the unknown and in different limitation. Fearing the predatory energy and the aggression. Fearing of not having, fearing of being alone, fearing losing everything valuable and what the body and mind needs in daily basis. Fear is taking attention when one is fearing something.


So there you have the exercise: Phrase all those instances of fear positively! smile


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#158 2022-12-28 11:24:29

mitkobs
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If one have clear conscience and simply stop fearing, this will work 100%. Nothing will going to harm him/her. Nothing of this sort will come to his/hers way.

If in the instance that something like retribution have to happen(something not unraveled from previous incarnations) then stopping fearing will not going to stop the event of danger but those who not fear will pass the event and the suffering with dignity and clear their situation and get back to integrity.

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#159 2022-12-28 14:41:00

Happy
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'Shadow work' is basically a hugely undefined concept. It deals with anything that restricts our own personal progress, found in our mentality, cognition, comprehension, or otherwise psychology. But it is also seemingly independent of the general understanding of 'progress', as it’s the individual herself/himself who decides what is progress or not. It is that personal. Usually it is understood as making unconscious mechanisms and patterns of thinking fully conscious, to evaluate them and throw them away if deemed superfluous, or to keep them if preferred so.

But "nothing", "everything", "always", and "never" are absolutes.

Tender emotions make us able to fathom the deepness of our existence, but they are so easily pushed aside by these absolutes; leaving dark holes, or undefined "shadows," when we try to comprehend our experiences. If these 'holes' are left vacated, it soon becomes difficult to find 'firm ground to build' and grow, and we become dependent on others to present meaning and to interpret it all. We submit and willingly become ‘pawns in the game’. This latency is a silent killer, because it is built on the absence of will to do what is necessary to avoid it. It erodes self-confidence to such a degree, that it can take away the trust in one’s own ability to reason.

That's why 'shadow work' isn't about absolutes. What we learn from our experiences usually are all about nuances, if we just dare to look.

The thing is... ...successful shadow-work doesn't mean everything will be dandy and fine for you down here on Earth. It doesn't mean that accidents won't happen. You will experience pain; after all, your body and mind are very fine-tuned for those type of experiences. And we will still learn by our errors - imagine that. But it makes you able to deal with your experiences very efficiently, without the nasty stuff being put into your backpack to drag it along with you for the rest of your life. Because it is almost guaranteed that you – by your Soul – are here exactly for sorting out such things.


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#160 2022-12-28 16:57:23

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Shadow is darkness, to decide not to know. With not knowing you put yourself on the mercy of circumstances, other people and your own judgement and capabilities. Shadow work is to clear the darkness and start seeing how things truly are without it. Clearing all the concepts and agreements that compel us to stay and live in darkness. Nuances are part of this but these nuances have to reach a threshold, clear line when the darkness is surpassed, certain limitation is surpassed and we are able to see how things are closer to Source.

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#161 2023-02-12 09:28:03

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Will continue in this topic with revealing more about the mastery of manipulation of the mind which is done by the cabal to the masses in various ways mainly through the medias. How subliminal messages are passed on while watching a movie, listening a song, reading newspaper(online), magazine, book. It is very useful the find out what is our own threshold of hypnotization. What kind of emotional type we are. How strong is our attention and how strong is our personal mind.

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#162 2023-02-12 21:29:15

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Narcissists do have empathy, but because of trauma they've created an ego, a shield... so they behave how they do because of it.

I watch this guy from time to time, he explains well in his videos about narcissists and narcissism..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8fR-gA-8M

mitkobs wrote:

In brief what exactly is narcissism and what are the differences between narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy.

Narcissism is maniacal grandiose egocentric behavior and exclusive self gratification. A narcissist lacks empathy, narcissist is self entitled and always seek validation.
Other people for a such ego maniac are regarded as tools(for use), competition, enemies and nobodies(objects of contempt), even the people in own family are seen this way.

A narcissist is ready to do almost anything to other people for the sake of own self interest. Still may feel guilty and have remorse after going over other people. May have some kind of relative morals. 

Sociopath is a narcissist who become such during his life, for example life conditions as a child in abusive family of lack of family made him/her this way.

Psychopath is born a narcissist. Psychopath do not have morals and do not feel guilt and remorse. Psychopath do not have conscience. If such person have some self awareness and if is been honest when asked why is murdered people will have explanation and excuse but those will not fit as excusable according to law, sense of justice and sense of compassion.

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#163 2023-02-13 07:45:39

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Technological methods of control in mass.

1. To keep people in ignorance. With withholding and falsification of information.
Generally speaking, people should not know the technology of manipulation and not need to know who the puppeteers are pulling the strings of political puppets and directing events behind the scenes. The real story of mankind and the important discoveries that would change it in a positive way life on Earth also remain hidden from the public.
 
2. The collective mind of the masses have to be diverted by any means from real important problems they have.
With providing a variety of activities for the mind and senses - television, radio, computers, cinema, alcohol, drugs, pornography, etc. One sure means by which to block spiritual pursuits and intellectual development and distract the people from serious, strategic issues, is to keep them in misery and to create an abundance of domestic and all sorts of other problems

3. People to be manipulated in such way that they start to restrict themselves and control others around them.
It is done through the programmed constraints in thinking that are in the area of what we might call the "safe zone". Outside it are
punishment in whatever form - verbal attack and stigmatization, mental harassment, imprisonment, forced psychiatric treatment, physical destruction.

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#164 2023-02-13 14:48:17

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@StarDeity if someone really is emphatic then is not narcissist. I am making this whole topic to show and describe those who are not emphatic and beyond help of becoming emphatic. They are dangerous, stay away from them. Do not fall in their trap.

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#165 2023-02-13 19:26:51

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I never liked the label or rather the conceptualizations surrounding the term Narcissist. Like if I'm being honest, my blood boils when I hear/read people use it. 

Why? Well it to me leads into even more complicated ideas/dynamics. For starters... What if a highly empathic person keeps relating over and over and getting burned down by what you would call a Narcissist. Would this person become more like the narcissist? What if this person has to shut down in many levels to conserve their core because of the parasitic/toxic environment they're in. Does that make them a Narcissist? This person not having a supporting environment, may have barriers as defense mechanisms. Barriers that are fluid because this isn't strictly castles vs footmen lol.

And before you say well if that's the case they're not true Narcissists, but what if your empathy cannot extend into the pain? Would your failure at empathy even if you have it, make you a Narcissist? Or it isn't you therefore it's them? So you write them off as undesirables, and yes you'd be correct. You cannot peer into their hearts, so you'd throw them away. And I get that. I've done it too (no not literally lol, but I'm speaking in allegories). And I'm not trying to suggest that you are obliged to acknowledge that...

Like the term Narcissist is so abused and callously thrown around without looking into way deeper implications, of past, present, future and all it's parallels.

Another example is it is absolutely true that you alone, love yourself above all else and others. How on Earth could you even hold love for others if you didn't love yourself first at the deepest of cores?

Let's say you have a fine civilization and they're all lovey-dovery-bubbley with themselves and they take care of eachother, they listen to eachother, they pull eachother up, their identities are distinct but they're very unified. They encounter other races/civilization.... Bah I'm going to stop with all the silly what ifs, what if that, and just say it like it is for me.... Saying someone is a narcissist or learning how to identify them according to the psychological standards misses the mark on what is probably very very complicated. Which is all fine and dandy if you have to sort, scan, and process beings out of your life for your own being, and you just want it simplified... Establishing comfort.

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#166 2023-02-13 21:19:46

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Narcissism is not that complicated. Once you understand it, it is fairly easy to recognize. Covert is more sophisticated than overt narcissism I guess. But if you are still being used/abused in your relationships, stop reading this website and clean that up right now.

Wes Penre does a good job discussing this.

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#167 2023-02-14 06:08:21

mitkobs
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Egocentrism have to be noticed in people and to be careful around such people, they are dangerous and exploitative, they will not give a second thought to chew you and spit you then run over you.

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#168 2023-02-14 08:23:34

StarDeity
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I've known Narcissists, they can feel bad for hurting others, but can go back to being narcissistic, it's like a program..
The ones who lack empathy are psychopaths.
And Sociopaths lose empathy.
People often confuse sociopaths with narcissists. And I think you do it too..

mitkobs wrote:

@StarDeity if someone really is emphatic then is not narcissist. I am making this whole topic to show and describe those who are not emphatic and beyond help of becoming emphatic. They are dangerous, stay away from them. Do not fall in their trap.

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#169 2023-02-14 08:48:54

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It is explained in the beginning of the topic the difference between the 3 terms associated with narcissism or ego-centrism. Some have conscience or something like conscience and feel guilt and have remorse and others like psychopaths do not have it.

Having conscience is what makes someone to have soul or to be connected with Source. Only beings with conscience can be responsible and be self aware responsibly for their actions.

The whole regressive reptilian egregore that is infesting this reality do not have conscience. Egregore means collective. They are collective being which only looks individual like different people but they all are the same collective being and fallow same set of regressive ideas without questioning and are programmed in the mind like robots to these regressive ideas.

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#170 2023-02-14 17:58:07

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Well I still think it's not feasible to just slap one of 3 labels on everyone and call it good. Of course you can and this exposition can give important frames of reference, but still...

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#171 2023-02-16 22:22:07

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The main tactic of a narcissist. - Richard Grannon (YouTube Short)

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"If you do feel pulled in, to save, protect, others, I would suggest to examine the energy of the “guardian” instead. Not the weaponized guardian, but the guardian like an impenetrable wall energy. No consequences to who tries to trespass, just an impossibility of getting through." - Inelia

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#172 2023-02-16 23:17:35

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

So no one will blow up the Earth's cabal governments, because everyone in the galactic realities will see you as a narcissist, and banish you. Like what exactly is on the plate out there that if the cabal falls, someone out there loses big time?

Like to me this is absolutely bonkers that beings with suzi specifications and higher won't do anything.

Like what the hell is going on? Are we in a VR game? The entire cabal is all AI driven as a game?

Like is this galaxy so fallen that all higher order systems and capacities are under the domain of AI from eons ago, and so it's just a massive kaledioscopic, mendel-bot fractual coding?

And I'm just asking this because Yazhi has dropped waaaaaaay too many hints that this is larger than we realize. Like the one that 5D realities are populated with unreal people?

Is this why the Taygetans keep in their worlds, because the galaxy is a horror show?

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#174 2023-02-16 23:29:20

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Re: Exposition of narcissism

As above, so below?

I get the impression that there might be a lot of wimps within the Galactic Federation... Or they just simply turn a blind eye when it comes to Earth affairs.
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HiddenSquid wrote:

So no one will blow up the Earth's cabal governments, because everyone in the galactic realities will see you as a narcissist, and banish you. Like what exactly is on the plate out there that if the cabal falls, someone out there loses big time?

Like to me this is absolutely bonkers that beings with suzi specifications and higher won't do anything.

Like what the hell is going on? Are we in a VR game? The entire cabal is all AI driven as a game?

Like is this galaxy so fallen that all higher order systems and capacities are under the domain of AI from eons ago, and so it's just a massive kaledioscopic, mendel-bot fractual coding?

And I'm just asking this because Yazhi has dropped waaaaaaay too many hints that this is larger than we realize. Like the one that 5D realities are populated with unreal people?

Is this why the Taygetans keep in their worlds, because the galaxy is a horror show?

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#175 2023-02-17 00:05:40

HiddenSquid
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Re: Exposition of narcissism

Well then they're no friends of mine. Not that they care heh. Like seriously... I'm getting such strong vibes that the entire federation are soooooooo dull with love and light, that they're all monsters.

I've saved animals and insects from death, and yet no one had to tell me to do that. I could've sit on my a$$ and said that this is what God and the Universe wants for you. Relish your pain in suffering, imbecile... But I didn't. AND I"M NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE REAL HEROES OUT THERE. I'm garbage compared to the real humans here.

None of that was within my jurisidiction to help, but I did it anyway. Swaruu helped Sariko despite the directives of her crew, her race, and the Federation. What were those critters lives insignificant? Did you even ask them? I'm just saying, if anyone tried to stop me from saving those beings, I would've hurt whoever it was trying to stop me. And I would like to know what have you done with the beings that are like that? Where are they?

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