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cosmic Mind

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Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLVM07fTvxk

In today's video (click above) Za'el explained to us that sometimes what we experience while dreaming is what we will see on the material side while awake.
What happened to me is that sometimes i dream about a picture, a context or about a situation and then during the morning i completely forgot, but then in a day or two or sometimes even months, when that moment or situation or context arrive that feeling of similarity come again and suddenly i remember that i dreamed about it. That is a big moment where a "no time" feeling is experienced.
It could also be a "deja vu" but as Swaruu of Erra (Swaruu 9) explained is the timeline collapsing to one (so to speak), but that sense of familiarity usually is a dream that i had.

I'm sure in the forum many of you have experienced it, if you want to share it fell free

Thank you Za'el of Erra you have enlighted me with your wisdom and experience and if you read, give also to Arien of Erra a big Thank you for the uniqueness of her point of view that is highly considered from the community. We hope everything is fine.

Bye

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mes333

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

I enjoyed this video quite a lot big thanks Za'el of Erra for making it and I have been quite intrigued by déjà vu for a long time. I was having it happen quite a bit during the 20-teen years. Always an interesting feeling specially when it has been couple years when having the dream experience and then the moment is happening so far after the fact. I am still trying to process the part in which our dreams our as really as so called every day life here. Seems extra tricky to rewire my understanding that dreams aren’t just illusions. Perhaps I should be writing them down as I know others do to help process this understanding. I Just wanted to say your logo on your channel with wings and the cat with wrapping tail is awesome!

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Horton HaW

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

I enjoyed this video quite a lot big thanks Za'el of Erra for making it and I have been quite intrigued by déjà vu for a long time. I was having it happen quite a bit during the 20-teen years. Always an interesting feeling specially when it has been couple years when having the dream experience and then the moment is happening so far after the fact. I am still trying to process the part in which our dreams our as really as so called every day life here. Seems extra tricky to rewire my understanding that dreams aren’t just illusions. Perhaps I should be writing them down as I know others do to help process this understanding. I Just wanted to say your logo on your channel with wings and the cat with wrapping tail is awesome!

The recording as you wakeup is critical. Remember, all is consciousness. There are some crazy things to see there.

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mes333

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

The recording as you wakeup is critical. Remember, all is consciousness. There are some crazy things to see there.

Thanks so much for the suggestion @Horton I have been pushing to write them down for a while but dictating them might be a lot easier as my writing is a mess first thing in the morning with blurry eyes. I appreciate the idea and good to know it is critical too.

TSD.9111

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hey guys, I think it’s important to keep in mind that the majority of dreams are not necessarily previews of our future in this life, and I don't say this to contradict Za'el in any way. I bring this up to remind ourselves of what else has been shared on dreams from the other crew members, yes most are experiences we are having on other frequency planes (due to focusing our attention on things that energetically link us to those planes) BUT they won't repeat themselves in this life. So yes we become a frequency match for our consciousness to 'travel' to those places in other layers of the Astral, but we come back to what we consider our 'base' life and body without those events following us. This is actually in our favor many times, especially when ending up in existential planes that are hostile and/or we consider nightmarish (I'm sure you guys know what those are like and experiencing them once is more than enough). So we have all kinds of experiences across the infinite existential planes, with those, that depending on our greater life plan, being a preview of what else we are going to experience, while others we just visit then come back from, and yet others we are re-viewing but already had in our 'main' life. But yeah, I just wanted to post this, mostly for any new member to this disclosure project and on the forum.

I'll add some snippets from other chats where dreams are mentioned

Excerpt 1:

"Gosia: And dreams? Why do we dream? Why does the mind create stories?

Swaruu (9): They are not "dreams" as such. They are reality and what you experience in those higher realms. While in a "dream" that becomes your objective reality, you are manifesting it for yourself as a reflection of what you have inside, your thoughts and your issues.

So, if you dream normal things like driving, talking to people, not being able to find a "bathroom" or walking barefoot, you are only projecting and manifesting that as your reality while "dreaming", because that's what's on your mind as you just came from the 3D material world.

But you very well could dream or manifest anything. So watch your thoughts right before you go to sleep. The mind creates stories because it's the same as when you create thoughts. While awake you are constantly sorting things out. While a sleep you do the same, but there what you think of manifests, because you are in a higher realm where your thoughts and wishes manifest a lot faster than in the super dense 3D realm. You are the only one who can truly interpret a dream accurately."

Link 1: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/astra … zhi-swaruu
- This entire chat is about experiences in the astral layers, in essence sharing that these experiences are not needing to be predictions of what will happen in your 'waking' life but experiences you are simply having in those frequencies then you come back from them.

Link 2: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/milit … zhi-swaruu
- Same for the information in this chat also.

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWkzqcvKnk (Dreams and What They Are - Mari Swaruu).

I think these are enough excerpts and links, for now, to support my reminder. So don't worry, if you are/were, that all dreams are premonitory, just some

To Za'el: Thank you for this video topic, it is one that I've experienced and do agree with the information shared. Big hugs!

Last edited by TSD.9111 (2023-11-17 17:14:10)

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Horton HaW

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

The recording as you wakeup is critical. Remember, all is consciousness. There are some crazy things to see there.

Thanks so much for the suggestion @Horton I have been pushing to write them down for a while but dictating them might be a lot easier as my writing is a mess first thing in the morning with blurry eyes. I appreciate the idea and good to know it is critical too.

Yeah scribbling has issues. I often can't make out my writing. I do draw pics also. You can record it verbally as well. I like writing, but you gotta do it fast. Time is not always relevant. Could easily see something 20 or more yrs in the future. Keep in mind just from a very grounded human standpoint we have been lied to continuously. So what is really happening is far from the artificial common one. Though the truth is becoming more apparent everyday.

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Horton HaW

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hey guys, I think it’s important to keep in mind that the majority of dreams are not necessarily previews of our future in this life, and I don't say this to contradict Za'el in any way. I bring this up to remind ourselves of what else has been shared on dreams from the other crew members, yes most are experiences we are having on other frequency planes (due to focusing our attention on things that energetically link us to those planes) BUT they won't repeat themselves in this life. So yes we become a frequency match for our consciousness to 'travel' to those places in other layers of the Astral, but we come back to what we consider our 'base' life and body without those events following us. This is actually in our favor many times, especially when ending up in existential planes that are hostile and/or we consider nightmarish (I'm sure you guys know what those are like and experiencing them once is more than enough). So we have all kinds of experiences across the infinite existential planes, with those, that depending on our greater life plan, being a preview of what else we are going to experience, while others we just visit then come back from, and yet others we are re-viewing but already had in our 'main' life. But yeah, I just wanted to post this, mostly for any new member to this disclosure project and on the forum.

I'll add some snippets from other chats where dreams are mentioned

Excerpt 1:

"Gosia: And dreams? Why do we dream? Why does the mind create stories?

Swaruu (9): They are not "dreams" as such. They are reality and what you experience in those higher realms. While in a "dream" that becomes your objective reality, you are manifesting it for yourself as a reflection of what you have inside, your thoughts and your issues.

So, if you dream normal things like driving, talking to people, not being able to find a "bathroom" or walking barefoot, you are only projecting and manifesting that as your reality while "dreaming", because that's what's on your mind as you just came from the 3D material world.

But you very well could dream or manifest anything. So watch your thoughts right before you go to sleep. The mind creates stories because it's the same as when you create thoughts. While awake you are constantly sorting things out. While a sleep you do the same, but there what you think of manifests, because you are in a higher realm where your thoughts and wishes manifest a lot faster than in the super dense 3D realm. You are the only one who can truly interpret a dream accurately."

Link 1: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/astra … zhi-swaruu
- This entire chat is about experiences in the astral layers, in essence sharing that these experiences are not needing to be predictions of what will happen in your 'waking' life but experiences you are simply having in those frequencies then you come back from them.

Link 2: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/milit … zhi-swaruu
- Same for the information in this chat also.

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWkzqcvKnk (Dreams and What They Are - Mari Swaruu).

I think these are enough excerpts and links, for now, to support my reminder. So don't worry, if you are/were, that all dreams are premonitory, just some

To Za'el: Thank you for this video topic, it is one that I've experienced and do agree with the information shared. Big hugs!

Thanks for the links. People should not get hung up on premonitions, but they offer data. The idea is to pay attention. How do you respond? Creating good habits is important. Also, they are artificially inserting information, and as mentioned astral manipulation. This has gotten worse.

A huge problem here is lack of inspiration. The team is trying to give that back. Inspiration empowers. This is tied into ideas and ideals as manifestations.

Last edited by Horton HaW (2023-11-17 17:34:37)

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TSD.9111

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Sure Horton, I don't disagree with anything you've said in response, and I do agree with the team offering inspiration in this system where that is sorely lacking. But I closed my post with saying, I just wanted to remind people (those that might need it) that dreams are not just premonitions (though I know Za'el was not implying that is all dreams are and just offering another angle). As certain people do get hung up on over analyzing their experiences on other planes to the point where they end up repeating them in their current Earth life, even if those 'dreams' would not have manifested and/or repeated themselves prior to over attention on them. And absolutely, all the experiences across any existential plane is data to help us in one way or another, so attention is important. But as our friends and teachers on the Toleka have stressed even more, we have to find the balance point and not swing between extremes, since that is likely the most difficult to maintain on Earth. We are always being pulled and pushed between extreme states and never allowed to find our center, our balance. Anyway, I'm preaching to the choir to most of us on this forum, so I'll pause here for now hehe

Hey guys, I think it’s important to keep in mind that the majority of dreams are not necessarily previews of our future in this life, and I don't say this to contradict Za'el in any way. I bring this up to remind ourselves of what else has been shared on dreams from the other crew members, yes most are experiences we are having on other frequency planes (due to focusing our attention on things that energetically link us to those planes) BUT they won't repeat themselves in this life. So yes we become a frequency match for our consciousness to 'travel' to those places in other layers of the Astral, but we come back to what we consider our 'base' life and body without those events following us. This is actually in our favor many times, especially when ending up in existential planes that are hostile and/or we consider nightmarish (I'm sure you guys know what those are like and experiencing them once is more than enough). So we have all kinds of experiences across the infinite existential planes, with those, that depending on our greater life plan, being a preview of what else we are going to experience, while others we just visit then come back from, and yet others we are re-viewing but already had in our 'main' life. But yeah, I just wanted to post this, mostly for any new member to this disclosure project and on the forum.

I'll add some snippets from other chats where dreams are mentioned

Excerpt 1:

"Gosia: And dreams? Why do we dream? Why does the mind create stories?

Swaruu (9): They are not "dreams" as such. They are reality and what you experience in those higher realms. While in a "dream" that becomes your objective reality, you are manifesting it for yourself as a reflection of what you have inside, your thoughts and your issues.

So, if you dream normal things like driving, talking to people, not being able to find a "bathroom" or walking barefoot, you are only projecting and manifesting that as your reality while "dreaming", because that's what's on your mind as you just came from the 3D material world.

But you very well could dream or manifest anything. So watch your thoughts right before you go to sleep. The mind creates stories because it's the same as when you create thoughts. While awake you are constantly sorting things out. While a sleep you do the same, but there what you think of manifests, because you are in a higher realm where your thoughts and wishes manifest a lot faster than in the super dense 3D realm. You are the only one who can truly interpret a dream accurately."

Link 1: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/astra … zhi-swaruu
- This entire chat is about experiences in the astral layers, in essence sharing that these experiences are not needing to be predictions of what will happen in your 'waking' life but experiences you are simply having in those frequencies then you come back from them.

Link 2: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/milit … zhi-swaruu
- Same for the information in this chat also.

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWkzqcvKnk (Dreams and What They Are - Mari Swaruu).

I think these are enough excerpts and links, for now, to support my reminder. So don't worry, if you are/were, that all dreams are premonitory, just some

To Za'el: Thank you for this video topic, it is one that I've experienced and do agree with the information shared. Big hugs!

Thanks for the links. People should not get hung up on premonitions, but they offer data. The idea is to pay attention. How do you respond? Creating good habits is important. Also, they are artificially inserting information, and as mentioned astral manipulation. This has gotten worse.

A huge problem here is lack of inspiration. The team is trying to give that back. Inspiration empowers. This is tied into ideas and ideals as manifestations.

Last edited by TSD.9111 (2023-11-17 19:54:29)

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mes333

Member

Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hey guys, I think it’s important to keep in mind that the majority of dreams are not necessarily previews of our future in this life, and I don't say this to contradict Za'el in any way. I bring this up to remind ourselves of what else has been shared on dreams from the other crew members, yes most are experiences we are having on other frequency planes (due to focusing our attention on things that energetically link us to those planes) BUT they won't repeat themselves in this life. So yes we become a frequency match for our consciousness to 'travel' to those places in other layers of the Astral, but we come back to what we consider our 'base' life and body without those events following us. This is actually in our favor many times, especially when ending up in existential planes that are hostile and/or we consider nightmarish (I'm sure you guys know what those are like and experiencing them once is more than enough). So we have all kinds of experiences across the infinite existential planes, with those, that depending on our greater life plan, being a preview of what else we are going to experience, while others we just visit then come back from, and yet others we are re-viewing but already had in our 'main' life. But yeah, I just wanted to post this, mostly for any new member to this disclosure project and on the forum.

I'll add some snippets from other chats where dreams are mentioned

Excerpt 1:

"Gosia: And dreams? Why do we dream? Why does the mind create stories?

Swaruu (9): They are not "dreams" as such. They are reality and what you experience in those higher realms. While in a "dream" that becomes your objective reality, you are manifesting it for yourself as a reflection of what you have inside, your thoughts and your issues.

So, if you dream normal things like driving, talking to people, not being able to find a "bathroom" or walking barefoot, you are only projecting and manifesting that as your reality while "dreaming", because that's what's on your mind as you just came from the 3D material world.

But you very well could dream or manifest anything. So watch your thoughts right before you go to sleep. The mind creates stories because it's the same as when you create thoughts. While awake you are constantly sorting things out. While a sleep you do the same, but there what you think of manifests, because you are in a higher realm where your thoughts and wishes manifest a lot faster than in the super dense 3D realm. You are the only one who can truly interpret a dream accurately."

Link 1: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/astra … zhi-swaruu
- This entire chat is about experiences in the astral layers, in essence sharing that these experiences are not needing to be predictions of what will happen in your 'waking' life but experiences you are simply having in those frequencies then you come back from them.

Link 2: https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/milit … zhi-swaruu
- Same for the information in this chat also.

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWkzqcvKnk (Dreams and What They Are - Mari Swaruu).

I think these are enough excerpts and links, for now, to support my reminder. So don't worry, if you are/were, that all dreams are premonitory, just some

To Za'el: Thank you for this video topic, it is one that I've experienced and do agree with the information shared. Big hugs!

Thanks so much for the information you provided here @TSD.9111! I look forward to looking through the transcripts you found and I recently watch Mari's video on Dreams so will return to watch it again and reviewed some video material on Gaia's channel too.

I appreciate what you are saying and good to know majority of dreams aren't necessarily previews of our future in this life. I had a inkling of that based on the amount of deja vu experiences coming true versus ratio of various other dreams that aren't connected with any experiences in this earthly plane of ours. Thank you for your description this really helps as I would like to explore more of this subject within myself. All my best!

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mes333

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Yeah scribbling has issues. I often can't make out my writing. I do draw pics also. You can record it verbally as well. I like writing, but you gotta do it fast. Time is not always relevant. Could easily see something 20 or more yrs in the future. Keep in mind just from a very grounded human standpoint we have been lied to continuously. So what is really happening is far from the artificial common one. Though the truth is becoming more apparent everyday.

Thanks @Horton for your input really appreciate it! I tried writing my dreams out for the first time this morning but ran into a bit of a snag as I woke up twice throughout the night and ended up having 3 vivid dreams that I could remember at the time of awakening. My cell dictation didn't pan out as the app was acting up, so I turned to cursive writing for speed and got the first 2 dreams written down. I was glad I remembered them but apparently too slow and the third disappeared from memory after writing down the other ones. But all in all a good first run through I feel and happy with the results and amazed what I did remember! Pictures are a great idea as I am using a sketch book to jot it all down! Practice makes perfect as they say!

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Horton HaW

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Yeah scribbling has issues. I often can't make out my writing. I do draw pics also. You can record it verbally as well. I like writing, but you gotta do it fast. Time is not always relevant. Could easily see something 20 or more yrs in the future. Keep in mind just from a very grounded human standpoint we have been lied to continuously. So what is really happening is far from the artificial common one. Though the truth is becoming more apparent everyday.

Thanks @Horton for your input really appreciate it! I tried writing my dreams out for the first time this morning but ran into a bit of a snag as I woke up twice throughout the night and ended up having 3 vivid dreams that I could remember at the time of awakening. My cell dictation didn't pan out as the app was acting up, so I turned to cursive writing for speed and got the first 2 dreams written down. I was glad I remembered them but apparently too slow and the third disappeared from memory after writing down the other ones. But all in all a good first run through I feel and happy with the results and amazed what I did remember! Pictures are a great idea as I am using a sketch book to jot it all down! Practice makes perfect as they say!

It's amazing how fast they fade. It's interesting to go back and read them. As I said on another thread I was surprised how often I was hanging with a big cat...Lol.

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TSD.9111

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hey there mes333, thank you for your feedback too on my post, glad you found the information interesting

I've been curious about deja-vu too and can see the connection to premonitory dreams and experiences, but I think that is slightly different than premonitory dreams, since deja-vu is a premonition that the conscious mind of a being has not influenced (indirectly and from more expanded states, yes) directly. Since an experience, regardless of what existential/frequency realm it was had and/or previewed in, can be dwelt upon and through that attention it can grow to be more likely to manifest in the person's waking/primary conscious life, if this makes sense. But this is just my understanding of having experienced both and with dream previews it gives me the ability, from within my Earth self that I return to when the body wakes up, to either dwell on it and thinking of how to manifest it in my life or if I do the opposite. While with deja-vu it just hits me within the moment that I've experienced that moment before, somewhere and somehow, but can't recall much if any of the details. But there is no premonitory experience for a deja-vu, since that (as Sophia said it in a chat that I can't recall right now), is when the two timelines are converging into one and we experience that as a close enough duplicate of an experience giving us the pause or surprise we feel then say/think something like 'I've done this before?!'

But in closing, both are necessary tools/avenues to get more data about ourselves and the links we have throughout the Ether's existential planes. So its cool to pay attention to both and take note of them then connect them to and within what we consider our main life, and just like with recording a dream we can do the same for a deja'vu and reference them both when needed. And let's not forget our friends the coincidences lol, since they too are another marker for experiences and are more indicative information. With Sophia's favorite remark on them, 'there are no coincidences,' since those are more alignment of experiences entering our awareness, so they too are helpful to take note of and reference. So ultimately we navigate the Ether/Source the best for our highest interest with more data than less and mastering consciousness navigation tools is the best way to ensure we get the most data and with the highest accuracy. This part does make sense, even if it takes lifetimes to be better at doing, so I don't need to preach to the choir about this hehe Just do the best you can within every experience and that will also reduce regrets and limiting/unnecessary attachments, which in turn can even keep us with low shadows and less work on them. But this is going in a different direction, although still connected, so I'll pause here

But yeah, this is an interesting topic along with its relative topics. I too enjoy exploring them and learning more from the crew

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mes333

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hi TSD.9111 I didn't get to respond earlier as I had a hair pulling kitchen project over the weekend that I tried to take on myself... Replacing 1970's wiring is not so fun sadly

Thank you for your clarification in regards to deja-vu versus premonitory dreams and experiences. It didn't occur to me they are different until thinking more about what you have written here. I understand the difference though thanks to you. You have a great way of describing things and helps to bring clarity which I truly appreciate! As you can probably tell, I am more new to this type of thinking then most of you in this forum or ones that have been following Gosia and Robert since 2017. So slowly but surely opening my understanding with much help from the Swaruu/Taygetan team up in the sky and there information and all of you lovely seeded people here too.

I really love the thought of more attention being put towards something can help to manifest it as your signature states in the waking/primary conscious life. It really resonates with me lots and logically makes sense from my current point of view. Deja-vu definitely is just in the moment also as you put as it is being experienced. I guess I was having lots of deja-vu moments in the 20-teens maybe because of the bigger timeline changes going on then thanks to our lovely friend Sophia or other energies/forces with/in Earth.

One thing I not sure about is what I thought was deja-vu I dreamed about years before and then it happened so that would make it a premonitory dream as you put and I was classifying it wrongly. As other times their was no dream before, just the happening in the moment with a sense/feeling of repetition of the experience/event. I will need to pay more attention going forward out of interest now. I have been enjoying logging my dreams and definetely will continue forward with it. I wish though I had started years ago to see what I had been up too. All in all a fun experience though no nightmares yet have been logged

Last edited by mes333 (2023-11-20 16:49:34)

TSD.9111

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hey mes333, hope your wiring project is complete and you have hair left hehe

I just explain things the best way I understand them, but you are welcome

Another thing, its fully possible to have an experience in another vibratory realm/dream from our perspective in this life, and some time later something happens within our life that is vibrationally similar enough to what we experienced in the other realm that jogs our memory which in turn we call deja'vu. And I also think that this label is put on experiences we have had on other planes, so things we do in this life that we later remember still in this life don't get that label, if this makes sense. So if you are 70 years old and eat the exact vanilla ice cream you did when you were 8 years old and say 'hey! I had this exact vanilla ice cream before,' no one will say that is deja'vu but simply recalling a memory. So deja'vu is remembering an experience we had outside of the Earth life, due to something that happens within this Earth life that is a similar vibration to that experience but it also conveys a lack of full details of the experience, just that what we were doing in the moment is similar in some way to something we did in other experiences not on Earth (that is a mouthful, sorry lol). Which to my understanding means deja'vu has a mystical connection to it that is different from simply recalling a memory, since the experience that is brought to the mind in the moment is typically very choppy and too incomplete to understand ourselves and much less convey to someone else.

Not to throw you a curve ball, but there is yet another phenomenon that is tied to experiences/memories. Since I have no clue what to call it or if there is a term for it, I call it a watermark, and that is when I know I did something/had an experience but I lack sensory data to quantify it beyond the point of I know I did it since the energetic imprint/watermark, of the experience is in my 'gut memory' but nothing beyond that. I have a lot of these watermarks, not only from my Taygetan character that is in immersion (this is how I am a starseed here btw) but it can also happen from astral experiences I have/dreams. So I don't have the sensory data that can accompany a memory, but energetically I feel and know I had the experience/whatever it might be and they are very frustrating lol But in a way this is bumping up against what intuition is, yet another phenomenon, to where we know of something but lack sensory data as to how we got in possession of the information.

Anyhow, keep recording your astral experiences since they can be very insightful, especially if you later line up with them in this lifetime. Maybe tag on deja'vus too, since you can compare them to the 'dreams' and seeing how the line up or relate to one another

Hi TSD.9111 I didn't get to respond earlier as I had a hair pulling kitchen project over the weekend that I tried to take on myself... Replacing 1970's wiring is not so fun sadly

Thank you for your clarification in regards to deja-vu versus premonitory dreams and experiences. It didn't occur to me they are different until thinking more about what you have written here. I understand the difference though thanks to you. You have a great way of describing things and helps to bring clarity which I truly appreciate! As you can probably tell, I am more new to this type of thinking then most of you in this forum or ones that have been following Gosia and Robert since 2017. So slowly but surely opening my understanding with much help from the Swaruu/Taygetan team up in the sky and there information and all of you lovely seeded people here too.

I really love the thought of more attention being put towards something can help to manifest it as your signature states in the waking/primary conscious life. It really resonates with me lots and logically makes sense from my current point of view. Deja-vu definitely is just in the moment also as you put as it is being experienced. I guess I was having lots of deja-vu moments in the 20-teens maybe because of the bigger timeline changes going on then thanks to our lovely friend Sophia or other energies/forces with/in Earth.

One thing I not sure about is what I thought was deja-vu I dreamed about years before and then it happened so that would make it a premonitory dream as you put and I was classifying it wrongly. As other times their was no dream before, just the happening in the moment with a sense/feeling of repetition of the experience/event. I will need to pay more attention going forward out of interest now. I have been enjoying logging my dreams and definetely will continue forward with it. I wish though I had started years ago to see what I had been up too. All in all a fun experience though no nightmares yet have been logged

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Horton HaW

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hi TSD.9111 I didn't get to respond earlier as I had a hair pulling kitchen project over the weekend that I tried to take on myself... Replacing 1970's wiring is not so fun sadly

Thank you for your clarification in regards to deja-vu versus premonitory dreams and experiences. It didn't occur to me they are different until thinking more about what you have written here. I understand the difference though thanks to you. You have a great way of describing things and helps to bring clarity which I truly appreciate! As you can probably tell, I am more new to this type of thinking then most of you in this forum or ones that have been following Gosia and Robert since 2017. So slowly but surely opening my understanding with much help from the Swaruu/Taygetan team up in the sky and there information and all of you lovely seeded people here too.

I really love the thought of more attention being put towards something can help to manifest it as your signature states in the waking/primary conscious life. It really resonates with me lots and logically makes sense from my current point of view. Deja-vu definitely is just in the moment also as you put as it is being experienced. I guess I was having lots of deja-vu moments in the 20-teens maybe because of the bigger timeline changes going on then thanks to our lovely friend Sophia or other energies/forces with/in Earth.

One thing I not sure about is what I thought was deja-vu I dreamed about years before and then it happened so that would make it a premonitory dream as you put and I was classifying it wrongly. As other times their was no dream before, just the happening in the moment with a sense/feeling of repetition of the experience/event. I will need to pay more attention going forward out of interest now. I have been enjoying logging my dreams and definetely will continue forward with it. I wish though I had started years ago to see what I had been up too. All in all a fun experience though no nightmares yet have been logged

Aluminum wiring? TSD.9111 is correct that deja-vu is that feeling that this has happened before don't think it matters where. Usually means this is a significant enough point to pay attention. Premonitions do not have to be like a realistic movie either. They can be alot like Za-el described. They can be very symbolic, but with very important information and emotions. There are also what I would call encoded memories. This is where something might trigger a memory you didn't know you had. Sometimes with very interesting or unusual information.Also there are waking dreams or visions.

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Howdy TSD.9111 wiring project is complete now and I still had one hair left to complete the job

This subject seems endlessly unique and so very interesting indeed! I excited to be keeping a better eye or two tracking what I am dreaming and see if going forward anything matches with the different classifications you so nicely given me here. Again really appreciate your input very helpful! I see what you mean in the 70 year old Vanilla ice cream  example from when he had it as a 8 year old and makes sense that would just be simply memory recall. I think I was having a mixture of things from deja-vu to that one preminator dream I had when I dreamt what I was doing 2 years before it happened in my so called reality here. I find it interesting my deja-vu experiences have mostly stopped for last few couple of years but they do seem to come and go over the years.

I have also had only a few of what I call very deep and mystical dreams perhaps not related to what we are speaking of here. When they happen they are so very vivid and stick with me through the years as if it was a real memory or moment experienced even with out needing to write it down to remember. Feels like it happened yesterday fresh in my mind when it was years ago now. Perhaps related to the astral and or another vibratory realm you speak of, different than a usual classification of dream or I feel it to be? Perhaps this is good I remember these ones as it gives me more time to sit with them and to understand the message more or realize they are just a different type of passing moment shared in another plane. Hard to analyze or not over analyze as I am a problem solver by nature. Leaves me with a great sense of wonder and curiosity that is for sure!

I find your watermark/imprint very interesting like a gut memory or feeling, I get this more in my so called awake state probably not related I realize. It is like a type of empathy being around certain people or near there prescence. I am think more to do with spiritual Aura field which would be different I am sure than what you mention but gut feeling nonetheless. How cool you know you are Taygetan starseed in immersion! I just watched the 2 immersion Pods video's Ariya suggested. So very interesting how that all works, I am gamer so I can relate with this even on the human level. I can imagine the frustration level with no sensory data but having the energetically feelings at times too. Kind of like 2 parts of yourself in a constant disagreement at times over an emotion or experience. Intuition is a very interesting topic as well as you mention perhaps they will go more into detail on that as well. Also sits deeply with my interests. Many thanks again for all you have shared here with me

mes333

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hi @Horton HaW many thanks for your input here too! My kitchen was like walking into a time warp from the 1970's Some of the equipment like the stove, fan hood and Electrical Outlets and light switches needed updating for safety. So I replaced them all but the older wiring didn't use different colours within my building, so the hot and negative wires were both black so bought a meter to test and go through them. Lots of fun

Interesting you have mentioned premonitions do not have to be like a realistic moment. I must have missed that and them also sharing symbolic point of view with important info and feelings, so thanks for repeating that part! Lots to think about that is for sure going forward. Encoded memories sound interesting need to think on that one more now too. Waking dreams and visions are very intriguing to me also.So many things to pay attention too!

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TSD.9111

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Re: Za'el's new video on dreams and premonitions, my experience and ....

Hey mes333, glad to know your renovation project is done with hair left hehe

You are very welcome, talking about this helps me too in understanding these things better, so thank you

Although I'll slightly divert from what @Horton said, not to cause drama just to clarify; it does matter where an experience was had for the memory triggered to be called deja'vu, otherwise Sophia would not say it is a merging of timelines. Since as I said in my ice cream example, no one calls the memory of the 70 year old from when he was 8 as a deja'vu, the man is simply recalling an experience in the same 'timeline,' of his Earth life i.e just 1 not multiple so nothing to merge. But I won't beat a dead horse, since I think its clear by now that deja'vu has a mystical nature that goes beyond the Earth experiences and that is what makes having one so unique in people's mind (unlike a simple memory recollection which might be unique if a memory is older but certainly not as impressive).

I too played life simulation games, my favorite was the Sims 3 and 4. But this immersion life is not close to that at all, especially with how dramatic it is to get out of it; with the Sims I exit the game with a choice of 'quit' then closing my computer. With this immersion there is a corpse afterwards and a bunch of memories, sadness etc in the minds of others when this immersion closes aka its a pain in the a** haha The watermarks to me are kind of like a deja'vu but even less specific, not that deja'vu holds all that much specificity lol, that's why I said its like a gut feeling sensing energy of the experience. But they are just as frustrating as deja'vu because I can't explore the phenomenon and get more information, which can make me also feel like maybe I'm making things up/wishful thinking since I lack other data to quantify the feeling.

Well those deep mystical dreams where real experiences, they did happen just not on this plane, and they were powerful/clear enough that they were 'written' in your brain sufficiently enough to not need a paper copy Oh I too over-analyze my experiences, from any plane, so you aren't alone in this camp

Howdy TSD.9111 wiring project is complete now and I still had one hair left to complete the job

This subject seems endlessly unique and so very interesting indeed! I excited to be keeping a better eye or two tracking what I am dreaming and see if going forward anything matches with the different classifications you so nicely given me here. Again really appreciate your input very helpful! I see what you mean in the 70 year old Vanilla ice cream  example from when he had it as a 8 year old and makes sense that would just be simply memory recall. I think I was having a mixture of things from deja-vu to that one preminator dream I had when I dreamt what I was doing 2 years before it happened in my so called reality here. I find it interesting my deja-vu experiences have mostly stopped for last few couple of years but they do seem to come and go over the years.

I have also had only a few of what I call very deep and mystical dreams perhaps not related to what we are speaking of here. When they happen they are so very vivid and stick with me through the years as if it was a real memory or moment experienced even with out needing to write it down to remember. Feels like it happened yesterday fresh in my mind when it was years ago now. Perhaps related to the astral and or another vibratory realm you speak of, different than a usual classification of dream or I feel it to be? Perhaps this is good I remember these ones as it gives me more time to sit with them and to understand the message more or realize they are just a different type of passing moment shared in another plane. Hard to analyze or not over analyze as I am a problem solver by nature. Leaves me with a great sense of wonder and curiosity that is for sure!

I find your watermark/imprint very interesting like a gut memory or feeling, I get this more in my so called awake state probably not related I realize. It is like a type of empathy being around certain people or near there prescence. I am think more to do with spiritual Aura field which would be different I am sure than what you mention but gut feeling nonetheless. How cool you know you are Taygetan starseed in immersion! I just watched the 2 immersion Pods video's Ariya suggested. So very interesting how that all works, I am gamer so I can relate with this even on the human level. I can imagine the frustration level with no sensory data but having the energetically feelings at times too. Kind of like 2 parts of yourself in a constant disagreement at times over an emotion or experience. Intuition is a very interesting topic as well as you mention perhaps they will go more into detail on that as well. Also sits deeply with my interests. Many thanks again for all you have shared here with me

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