Yes, in form of belief. I do not argue about that.
But I do argue if you say "yesterday I was skiing" if I was at home chatting with you.
Now just replace "yesterday" with "2000 years ago" and "skiing" with "talking to yesus".
If there was no Jesus I could not talk to him.
Agree?

I am not enforcing anything and I would appretiate if also nobody else would force any of his beliefs here. (But of course, this is Gosia's platform and she may have other goal, I am just a regular member here in quest for truth, means asking questions rather then giving answers.)

This is valid for those who do not care about the past. But invalid for those, who are interested in what trully happened and who will have problems NOW with those who say "it does not matter how things happened".
For some such person may not be trustful since imposes his perspective on others.

@Birgit I understand that universe is infinite and as such concept of Jesus is very well tested and endless times repeated in all kinds of variations and in my many incarnations throughout the universe I could have come across this concept countless times.

However we should keep agreed frame of reference when discussing these topics so that we understand each other.

And if the question is "did Jesus walk the Earth 2000 of its revolutions around the Sun back then there should be (must be) a clear unswer YES/NO.

For sure I cannot accept both yes and no just because you borrow from Bashar his perspective Source frame of reference.

Otherwise I liked your answer very much, thank you for that

Sure. The real timeline starts with your incarnation and is is your set of event your are passing through.

If you say that your timeline is jesus or you skiing instead of talking to me then you expand the concept far beyond definition of timeline tied to your own actions.
That is why I used the word "imaginary".
Means unreal.

Thank you for the link, Bashar explains there there you are a different person now then the one who existed yesterday.
He gives advice how to free yourself, how to get rid of that anchor that puts limits to you.
He gives you advice how to reprogram yourself and accept that what happened is not your reality.

But again, is has nothing to do with what we discuss here. The event happened somehow and you cannot undo it. There is even no point in undoing past experience. The experience is what stays with you and all happened for a reason.

You talk to me for a reason. And in 2000 years this will stay a fact. You talked to me. You were not skiing instead.
You may use Bashar's advice and program yourself to reality in which you did not talk to me. It will help you free your mind and focus on things which you could not if you were stuck on the past in which I talked to you.

However, what once happened you cannot undo or say something else happened instead. You have not brought any arguments that would support that. I stay open-minded.. And thanks for trying.

From perspective of your 3D incarnation this NOW  is where you exist, this I understand..

Your choices create your timeline. Now you chose to talk to me and not to ski.

That is why when one day passes and you look into your note book you will see that the day before you talked to me. You will see evidence - our chat will stay her forever.

And same is valid for events that you did not chose = you did not ski, there is also no evidence of it and you cannot create the event of skiing retroactively from your future NOW.

You would have travel back in time and make the choice to ski.. But as we are talking and not skiing this is not the case.

If you are saying you can change the past from ypur future NOW then again, we would not be talking, you would be skiing now.

I see this as very simple and still do not understand your point.

Anybody else does? And has the patience to explain it to me?

The initial question is if Jesus could both exist and not exist in the past.
Analogy is if now I am both talking to you AND skiing in Alps.
I say only one is valid and relevant for my and your cuurent point of attention = incarnation.

Are you talking to me now or are you skiings in Alps now?
Your timeline consists of points that you are connecting from the sea of potential options you have to chose from.

If you chose to chat with me now and not skiing in Alps then your timeline dose not include that event of skiing now.
How this will change in 2000 years? How will this change tommorow? It happened somehow. And how it happened you do not change retroactively.
I really would like to understand your perspective since I do not get it now, I admit.

I use logic in this topic, some may tell 3D and wrong logic, however, I am here because I was born in the past, not because I migrated here from parallel universe, where Jesus existed (your case).

Massive polarities are here because we are lied to on every corner, that is why there is no definite truth and truth differs for everyone as per his own perception of the mess created here.

So same as you say there was yesus in years 0-33ad Swaruu says there was non such.

You believe your source of info, some believe Swaruu.

But the fact is that your perception of the past event does not create or change the event retroactively.

Things happened somehow, that is set in stone.
With technology our crew could make jumps and could be creating, guiding those past events.

But we are now the result of them.

Of course, not only of them, since others came after and "rewrote the history".
But that is another thing, that also does not change events that happened before. It changes records of them and how you now see those events.

Here Aneeka says that "drones sometimes come from parallel dimensions" https://youtu.be/1k445ufRJdc?t=898

What does she mean?

I remember Swaruu said there are no parallel dimensions...

Thank you for explaining

why would your timeline split when "decisions are made"?

You are your own timeline.. And via your decisions you are steering your timeline into specific direction..

Like in this chart.. Your timeline consists of your own jumps between all options of your potential choices..
But when you make one choice it does not mean that the other ones exist or were created - you never connected those points, you did not partake in those "potential timelines" that is why I cannot pick you up on those and take you into my present.

But making copies of yourself as 3/5D physical being just via making a decision?

Maybe you can find a link where Swaruu/Yazhi says that, I might have overlooked it..

Thank you

Thank you for your response, I feel slowly but surely we are advancing to mutual understanding..
However, still a long run for me, I suppose..:)

what do you mean by saying "But in another timeline, which deviated from your present one way back"

why deviated?
when deviated?
what made it deviate?
do you mean since that moment two timelines exist? with two me?