Holographic Society - How To?

DarkOwl · 2021-10-28 20:00:42

I’ve been thinking about holographic societies lately and how that might be implemented down here on earth. As a whole, we are far from ready for this but there are still plenty of people thinking about and preparing for what happens when the tide turns in our favour.

Here in NZ, I’m watching an alternative, parallel society emerge. I meet regularly with a ‘prepping’ group which is connected to a much larger network of groups, all working hard to develop systems that will withstand what is being (and will be) thrown at us.

Communications should traditional methods go down, food security and trade networks and distribution, no-jab business directories, secure social media and online community hubs… all are being developed out at this time.

I’m surrounded by star seeds (whether they know it or not) who are all looking forward to, and actively manifesting a bright future. A deeper understanding of how ‘holographic societies’ work, how they are structured, how problems are resolved etc. would be of great benefit to us all.

Would the Taygetans be prepared to share more with us at this time?

The Taygetans had a meeting with the Federation early this year and did a 6 hour presentation on a plan to transition earth to a holographic society (which the Federation rejected). A plan the Taygetans were sure would work (if my memory serves me). How amazing it would be to see that presentation, or the essence of it!

We seem to be on some kind of tipping point right now and now might be a good time to start thinking more about this. What do others think?

Has anyone else been having similar thoughts or been wondering about ‘holographic societies’?

Gosia · 2021-10-28 21:45:24

Yes, we have a whole video about this topic pending to prepare for months now, and still didn´t get around to deepening yet with Yazhi. We will though.

DarkOwl wrote:

I’ve been thinking about holographic societies lately and how that might be implemented down here on earth. As a whole, we are far from ready for this but there are still plenty of people thinking about and preparing for what happens when the tide turns in our favour.
Here in NZ, I’m watching an alternative, parallel society emerge. I meet regularly with a ‘prepping’ group which is connected to a much larger network of groups, all working hard to develop systems that will withstand what is being (and will be) thrown at us.
Communications should traditional methods go down, food security and trade networks and distribution, no-jab business directories, secure social media and online community hubs… all are being developed out at this time.
I’m surrounded by star seeds (whether they know it or not) who are all looking forward to, and actively manifesting a bright future. A deeper understanding of how ‘holographic societies’ work, how they are structured, how problems are resolved etc. would be of great benefit to us all.
Would the Taygetans be prepared to share more with us at this time?
The Taygetans had a meeting with the Federation early this year and did a 6 hour presentation on a plan to transition earth to a holographic society (which the Federation rejected). A plan the Taygetans were sure would work (if my memory serves me). How amazing it would be to see that presentation, or the essence of it!
We seem to be on some kind of tipping point right now and now might be a good time to start thinking more about this. What do others think?
Has anyone else been having similar thoughts or been wondering about ‘holographic societies’?

DarkOwl · 2021-10-28 21:47:31

Gosia wrote:

Yes, we have a whole video about this topic pending to prepare for months now, and still didn´t get around to deepening yet with Yazhi. We will though.

Excellent! Great timing. Thanks

07wideeyes · 2021-10-28 22:20:39

Looking forward to it. Very important at this moment. Without sounding dramatic, the future may just depend on it.... !!!

DarkOwl · 2021-10-29 03:59:49

For those who want an intro to holographic societies. An early Cosmic Agency video and transcript.

https://swaruu.org/en/transcripts/holog … ct-taygeta

My fav quote from it:
"The more consciousness a people has, the less government it needs."

mitkobs · 2021-10-29 05:30:54

The main idea of a holographic society is integration/LOVE. One community with all people, no exclusions in the community, no separation of opposing groups. And this to happen have to create good living conditions based on equal rights and make sure these equal rights stay such. Everyone have to be equal in rights which are applicable in the created community. And with equal rights and freedom come responsibility. People have to be equal in responsibility.

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DarkOwl · 2021-10-29 07:30:17

mitkobs wrote:

The main idea of a holographic society is integration/LOVE. One community with all people, no exclusions in the community, no separation of opposing groups. And this to happen have to create good living conditions based on equal rights and make sure these equal rights stay such. Everyone have to be equal in rights which are applicable in the created community. And with equal rights and freedom come responsibility. People have to be equal in responsibility.

Agreed. In earth terminology it sounds like what we would call anarchism or libertarianism based on the principle of individualism. Everyone matters!

mitkobs · 2021-10-29 07:38:23

Genoveva wrote:

mitkobs wrote:
The main idea of a holographic society is integration/LOVE..
For english speakers, "have to" sounds harsh, as they use it in situations of imposition, of mandating something. In other languages, the expression "have to" or "must" is an emanation of love, loyalty, and highest spiritual goals. Because of these reasons, these cultures use the word "must" with different meanings than the english cultures.
The trancendence of the deepest sense of duty is associated with the word "must". My guess is that your culture, @mitkobs, has deep roots in the spiritual understanding of the unfathomable intertwining between sacred love and sacred duty.

In 3D oblivion and disconnection from the Source you cannot make people with different vibration to integrate in holographic community willingly. Have to convince them in one way or another. And like Taygetans already said that on Earth holographic society have to be implemented with iron fist, compulsory. And to make a detailed normative ideology where one can see all its rights and responsibillities.

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mitkobs · 2021-10-29 07:52:04

When you agree to be part in such holographic society you have to work not only for yourself but for others and they have to work for you. That is the main idea of LOVE/integration. You cannot only reep the awards and pleasures of such society, you have to participate in creating it and maintaining of it. In 5D between people who know they are Source is easier to do things for others without expecting anything in return. But here in suspension of frequencies people are divided with their ego thinking for themselves first.

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mitkobs · 2021-10-29 08:21:06

Iron fist is from the 5 year plan they had for changing Earth they proposed to Federation for alternative of ongoing genocide.

07wideeyes · 2021-10-29 09:15:43

Can you provide the source for this 'iron fist' statement, please, mitkobs? I've had a look, but cannot find it, and am interested in reading it. On a surface level, I agree with Genoveva: the implementation of a holographic requires a different attitude to 'authority'. 'Iron fist', to someone from the UK, is communism and the approach of Mrs Thatcher in the 1980s! Not very holographic at all. I see that, should a holographic society be implemented, it will need 'guides' and 'leaders' - for example, some of us here, who comprehend what it is about. Many people who have spent all their lives following cabal-style attitudes will be lost, confused, and need to be taken by the hand. But that hand will be strong yet soft, firm yet supportive, not an iron fist.

'Iron fist' of love seems contradictory. Like it's said about the biblical commandment to love others. You cannot force anyone to love. Force them to love, and they will end up getting resentful, generating hatred, the opposite of love. Love is a reflection of connection with the rest of existence, if you like, and comes from a different place than any 'commandment' can.

mitkobs · 2021-10-29 09:21:30

Iron fist in this case is not a bad thing, because they want to be given power to create truly heaven on Earth for 5 years with their plan. When the plan is implemented and functioning people will be free and will enjoy a life in fulfilment. Only in the beggining things have be obligatory and certain work have to be done by everyone in this new society.

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07wideeyes · 2021-10-29 13:03:32

Thank you, Genoveva, that's very sweet of you. I had something of a look, but beyond that was a bit lazy (confession time, folks). It just sounds a bit like 'white hats' mentality to me. Which I have come to be suspicious of....

Robert369 · 2021-10-29 13:41:57

Thank you for bring up this topic, Dark Owl, as I think it is very necessary to discuss such.

But to actually start, I guess that we firstly need to define what a "Holographic Society" is supposed to be, because just like everything in this Earth+Space Cabal environment, there exist heavily distorted versions of it which in fact represent a pyramidal/hierarchical structure in which once again (as in today's Earth government systems) the people have no actual say.

For this, the lower GF's structure surely is the best example, as it is easily visible that it follows a pyramidal and thus regressive structure, even if it is clad into the dressing of a seeming holographic society. Which is just like today's Earth democracies that look nice on paper but disempower the people - or, in case of the GF whole planets and races.

But as with our Earth Cabal, it is our own choice if we participate in such systems or create own ones that are more truthful in regards to self-governed people.

This being said, while a truly holographic system consist of fully self-empowered and self-governing mostly autark/self-providing individuals that cooperate on a free will basis with each other along agreed-on rules without giving away any of their sovereignty, this concept cannot be applied to Earth at the current moment due to 99.99% of Humanity simply not being ready for it.

Examples for lack of readiness are mostly the many Cabal programmings and dependencies, e.g. the infamous savior mentality or the seeming need of a leader, but also the many requirements and dependencies for the daily needs, which mostly stem from most people having lost all own understanding and capabilities to provide for themselves. Which obviously is a scheme that was Earth+Space Cabal created for easy control and preventing Humans from taking over on their own.

Thus, to make this work I see the need to:

Enable people to think and act as a sovereign, taking up their responsibilities and accepting the rights of others (including nature, etc.). This already seems too much for all those "unchangeable sheeplings", which means that those cannot become part of a future Holographic Society. Of course, a transition time is required to see who is willing to change once the Cabal pressures is removed.
Once a sufficient amount of people is acting as theirs truly, it is time to take down/over the existing Cabal structures, though it should be clear that most of them cannot be changed to something positive but need to get fully replaced. This applies e.g. to global institutions, governments, financial systems (which later can go), industries, health, education, and pretty much everything else, all of which at today's time are serving the purpose of control and oppression.
The above needs to be supported with new technologies, both in terms of devices and consciousness, and also a new (old!) way of thinking in regards to nature and our place in the universe.

Looking at this list it gets clear that we need both, a gentle path for those who can accept and grow with it to what is needed in the future - meaning it is coming from within -, or the above mentioned "iron fist" which is required to get rid of the Cabals and prevent people from clinging to old mindsets (like egoism) and technologies (like today's electricity, mobile phones or fuels) by forcing industry and people to use replacements. And obviously, an all-powerful planetary interim government is required that makes sure that everything is on track and not infiltrated by Regressives like the GF is.

Insofar I can see both above arguments to be correct: Love & "Iron Fist" need to be applied in parallel.

_@Dark Owl: Since I am active on these topics for a while already and it is what my own servers are about, and you wrote about many other groups that you know of, I would like to connect._

07wideeyes · 2021-10-29 14:02:54

Many thanks, Genoveva. It seems that you have a great system set up there. So it was Romans who were referred to, talking about action against their opponents.

Robert369 · 2021-10-29 14:30:43

Genoveva wrote:

Robert369 wrote:
Insofar I can see both above arguments to be correct: Love & "Iron Fist" need to be applied in parallel.
The combination "Love & iron fist" is a sign of "narcissistic personalty disorder".
From a political standpoint, this combination is the modus operandi of the "nanny state", which is also known by the name of fascism, communism, or socialism.
A holographic society is self-regulating based on the natural law principles.

It seems that you didn't (even try to) understand what I wrote. And constantly throwing around personal insults at people that base on your programmed belief systems is what kind of "personality order" ? Your method of "self-regulating" via personal defamation (without even adding actual content) of those who think differently than you clearly is not compatible with a holographic society.

I'd wager that it is people who insult others on a constant basis that require an "Iron Fist" which in this forum translates into moderating requirements which in among mature people wouldn't be needed.

What a way to start your past trashtalk style again - and that in our new moderator's thread about a new society in which positive cooperation and acceptance of each other's viewpoints play a major role. Really ?!

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Robert369 · 2021-10-29 14:52:19

Genoveva wrote:

Psychology defines the narcissistic personality disorder.
[...]
When debating what society should look like, it may not be a good sign to bring the inverted view of the cabal to the round table.

Actually, that so-called "Psychology" is cabal-made and aims at (obviously successfully) categorizing and by that dividing people using false teachings. You might want to apply your very own measures of "don't bring in the inverted view of the cabal" to yourself too.

True "Psychology" doesn't require any silly names for alleged "issues" (which just like with "medical doctor" assessments only serve to match the funding tables that the insurance companies enforce on them), but only innerstanding and the abilities to read people - none of which is part of today's "psychology" at all, because like all the "sciences" this "discipline" is neither about understanding nor about helping the people.

Genoveva wrote:

Also, my proposal is the natural law, which is self regulating. Since this is a discussion which concerns us all, aren't we all allowed to speak our truth?

I agree to natural law and speaking truth, but it should be actual truth and not a recitation of cabal indoctrinations, as that is something that nobody in this forum of awakened people has need of. Though obviously truthfulness should start with applying it to oneself, e.g. not applying different measures.

mitkobs · 2021-10-29 18:34:04

From today's video it is clear that majority of the people on this planet are from Reptilian origin, Kingu. In my opinion they understand more than anything from order and that's why their societies when are regressive are pyramidal and dictatorship. They need to fallow someone powerful, someone great, they need good example leaders. Also their development like souls is different from a normal soul because their thin body structure like chakra system is different. Now you call them sheep, like they have sheep mentality when are humans, they are victims/pray because they do not know who they were before and their own race of superiors is doing this to them. How to make holographic society with such people. It will be a challenge. Their Draconian gods should do it.

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Crystal Dragon · 2021-10-29 18:37:45

They need to change their definition of strength and strong leadership. If they start there and gravitate towards leaders who have actual integrity, they can be shown the way through loyalty to those with TRUE strength, and learn to stand on their own.

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Robert369 · 2021-10-29 20:03:03

mitkobs wrote:

From today's video it is clear that majority of the people on this planet are from Reptilian origin, Kingu. In my opinion they understand more than anything from order and that's why their societies when are regressive are pyramidal and dictatorship. They need to fallow someone powerful, someone great, they need good example leaders. Also their development like souls is different from a normal soul because their thin body structure like chakra system is different. Now you call them sheep, like they have sheep mentality when are humans, they are victims/pray because they do not know who they were before and their own race of superiors is doing this to them. How to make holographic society with such people. It will be a challenge. Their Draconian gods should do it.

This indeed is a problem, and as visible all over our planet it is more than questionable how any of those would be able to get into the advanced state of being that is required for a true self-empowered and self-responsible/-governing population to form a holographic society - one without pyramidal structures, as e.g. the GF is built upon.

I'd rather assume that during Earth's planetary libereation these beings will need to go elsewhere for whatever system suits their personal development best. Guess that's where the jab comes into play...

pete · 2021-10-30 01:26:06

Robert369 wrote:

mitkobs wrote:
From today's video it is clear that majority of the people on this planet are from Reptilian origin, Kingu.
This indeed is a problem, and as visible all over our planet it is more than questionable how any of those would be able to get into the advanced state of being that is required for a true self-empowered and self-responsible/-governing population to form a holographic society - one without pyramidal structures, as e.g. the GF is built upon.

I just watched the video, Swaruu said they are "dominant", rather than "majority". Plus, it is a translation from Spanish, so I wonder what she actually meant...

For example, Kingu wouldn't need to be the majority in order to be the most dominant on the planet - only a few of them in positions of power could easily rule everyone else on the planet, which is what they have been doing for a very long time it seems.

Kind of like if you go to a chicken farm, one farmer could have thousands of chickens... And if Earth is mostly just a human farm for reptilians, then Kingu are the farmers and we are the chickens...

Robert369 wrote:

I'd rather assume that during Earth's planetary libereation these beings will need to go elsewhere for whatever system suits their personal development best. Guess that's where the jab comes into play...

I wonder if anyone can actually ask Earth what is it that she wants? I think GF claims ownership of the planet at this stage. Humans want ownership. Reptilians actually own it in practice. The truth is though that we are all just colonisers and exploitators of one another and this planet, regardless of our race.

For example, an estimated 50 billion chickens are slaughtered each year for human consumption (which also means that chickens have the actual majority on this planet). So, it doesn't look like humans are any better than the reptilians..

Some of us might have stopped eating chicken, but is any one of us here actually doing anything about the liberation of all chickens on this planet right now? Probably not. So why should we expect help from GF or Taygetans or anyone else then? Maybe the chickens should actually inherit this planet and the rest of us should just leave...

Robert369 · 2021-10-30 01:37:14

pete wrote:

For example, an estimated 50 billion chickens are slaughtered each year for human consumption (which also means that chickens have the actual majority on this planet). So, it doesn't look like humans are any better than the reptilians..
Some of us might have stopped eating chicken, but is any one of us here actually doing anything about the liberation of all chickens on this planet right now? Probably not. So why should we expect help from GF or Taygetans or anyone else then? Maybe the chickens should actually inherit this planet and the rest of us should just leave...

The problem with the "chicken example" is that eating meat is something that the Regressives have taught Humanity, while originally we didn't need to eat meat - if anything at all (which still works if raising one's frequency and getting the body's metabolism back to where it could be).

Thus, your example of chickens is a result of the programmings of the "Shepherds of Humanity" to make them not only lower Humanity's frequency by meat-eating (which e.g. allows Humans to be incarnations vessels for low frequency souls), and also dependent on meat/food which makes slavery simpler.

Looking at only one small portion of the whole is how the GF tries to argue that "it is all Humanity's fault", and I think that by looking at the larger picture it becomes easily visible that the Regressives are playing the strings in many areas, be it Earth or Space Cabals, or beyond.

I suggest to use the nasty "teachings" that they provided to us on our planet for our growth and use it as knowledge in the future fight that will continue beyond Earth. That is, if a fight is even needed because the awakening might occur there as well.

pete · 2021-10-30 03:18:36

Robert369 wrote:

pete wrote:
For example, an estimated 50 billion chickens are slaughtered each year for human consumption (which also means that chickens have the actual majority on this planet). So, it doesn't look like humans are any better than the reptilians..
Some of us might have stopped eating chicken, but is any one of us here actually doing anything about the liberation of all chickens on this planet right now? Probably not. So why should we expect help from GF or Taygetans or anyone else then? Maybe the chickens should actually inherit this planet and the rest of us should just leave...
The problem with the "chicken example" is that eating meat is something that the Regressives have taught Humanity, while originally we didn't need to eat meat - if anything at all (which still works if raising one's frequency and getting the body's metabolism back to where it could be).
Thus, your example of chickens is a result of the programmings of the "Shepherds of Humanity" to make them not only lower Humanity's frequency by meat-eating (which e.g. allows Humans to be incarnations vessels for low frequency souls), and also dependent on meat/food which makes slavery simpler.
Looking at only one small portion of the whole is how the GF tries to argue that "it is all Humanity's fault", and I think that by looking at the larger picture it becomes easily visible that the Regressives are playing the strings in many areas, be it Earth or Space Cabals, or beyond.
I suggest to use the nasty "teachings" that they provided to us on our planet for our growth and use it as knowledge in the future fight that will continue beyond Earth. That is, if a fight is even needed because the awakening might occur there as well.

I would largely agree with your argument here. However, strictly speaking, I wasn't actually arguing about why humans eat meat, so I can't quite connect your argument to my questions. Perhaps I should restate for the sake of clarity. We are already at the stage of thinking about how to build our new societies, but perhaps we need to ask some more fundamental questions (and I'm not saying that you personally are not considering these questions):

1. Has anyone asked Earth what does she want to happen?

2. Why should we humans essentially inherit the Earth and build our new societies here?
We are neither the dominant race (reptilians are), nor are we the most populous (the chickens are), nor are we indigenous (none of the contenders are).

3. Can we put forward an excellent track record on Earth in support of our claim to inherit it?
We slaughter, destroy, exploit, etc, on a daily basis. And yes, it can be argued that our crappy track record is because we have been brainwashed and downgraded by reptilians. Agreed. However, that cannot just explain away the sufferring that is happening right now. Billions of animals suffer right now by our hand. And so many exploited children and people. What are we doing about all that suffereing right now? I know that I'm not doing much at all. To just ignore all that presently occurring suffering on the plaent seems like when GF reportedly says that humans are just biosuits, so human suffering doesn't really count (please note, I'm not saying that you personally are saying this). Similarly, to expect that our propensities to kill, exploit (or just idly stand by while other suffer) would somehow go away in our new societies also doesn't seem like the best expectation to make (and I'm not saying that you personally expect this).

4. How can we guarantee that we will not continue to destroy this planet and keep exploiting one another if we do get to inherit the Earth?

5. To whom are we going to give our allegiance if we do inherit the Earth? The Earth, the truth, the Andromedans, the Taygetans, humans, oneself, god, nobody?

Anyway, I'm not saying here that we should do A or B. Rather, I'm asking if there's more fundamental stuff that we need to consider before we even begin building our new societies.

mitkobs · 2021-10-30 06:42:47

Robert369 wrote:

mitkobs wrote:
From today's video it is clear that majority of the people on this planet are from Reptilian origin, Kingu. In my opinion they understand more than anything from order and that's why their societies when are regressive are pyramidal and dictatorship. They need to fallow someone powerful, someone great, they need good example leaders. Also their development like souls is different from a normal soul because their thin body structure like chakra system is different. Now you call them sheep, like they have sheep mentality when are humans, they are victims/pray because they do not know who they were before and their own race of superiors is doing this to them. How to make holographic society with such people. It will be a challenge. Their Draconian gods should do it.
This indeed is a problem, and as visible all over our planet it is more than questionable how any of those would be able to get into the advanced state of being that is required for a true self-empowered and self-responsible/-governing population to form a holographic society - one without pyramidal structures, as e.g. the GF is built upon.
I'd rather assume that during Earth's planetary libereation these beings will need to go elsewhere for whatever system suits their personal development best. Guess that's where the jab comes into play...

Like I said they need order, structure, guidance but proper one, truthful one, constructive one. Not deceiving, manipulating and exploiting them. Give them work, give them meaningful things to do. Give them knowledge. Show them how spirituality work. Create for them conditions to grow. They will pick on it, they will become better and will develop conscience, sympathy, will become responsible and honorable. I do not understand why this is not happening already but instead people are subjected to suffering and lack.

Robert369 · 2021-10-30 15:25:02

mitkobs wrote:

Like I said they need order, structure, guidance but proper one, truthful one, constructive one. Not deceiving, manipulating and exploiting them. Give them work, give them meaningful things to do. Give them knowledge. Show them how spirituality work. Create for them conditions to grow. They will pick on it, they will become better and will develop conscience, sympathy, will become responsible and honorable. I do not understand why this is not happening already but instead people are subjected to suffering and lack.

I would agree with this in general, but considering that they were created as a slave/tool race by higher density Regressives that also successfully mind-controlled large parts of the galaxy, I cannot see how they would do any such, as that would defy the very purpose of the creation of their slaves.

Instead, as we all know, they consider slaves to be "items" aka playthings and not "beings" (which for good reason is identical to Roman law on Earth), and treat them accordingly. Guess that's what non-emotional and power hungry beings do those who their consider their underlings or otherwise inferior.

I would think that to solve this loop of personal development stuckness for regressive Reptilian off-spring for real, a general liberation of the galaxy is needed, and until then a separate planet would be useful, so that the Humans who are already ready for a more advanced life can get this without the constant blockage that the non-awakenables cause.

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