_.haz.za._369 wrote:

Lyran wrote:

I’m a little surprised, some petty egregors could be a challenge for the Karistus.
And remarking on “The Cause” - do such advanced beings seek help of starseeds for physical operations on Earth? That seems off to me so while I have respect for the Karistus, I reserve suspicions about recruitment into a band of militia, presumably to fight in DUMB Tunnels. That don’t make no sense.

I would like to know what they were doing at the time of the Tiamat wars. if Karistus consider Earth theirs?
Didn’t notice a big space-battle going on in their solar-system, brought here by strangers?
If the federation didn’t place the moon here, Earth would be an asteroid belt too.
Also - they let Venus be invaded too.

No, they can claim whatever they like - I refute that all Lyrians are karistus hybrids. It seems the Karistus fight for their own Cause - one that is less than clear from here.

This post is a real eye-opener…

Dante cares about Karistus and their hybrids only. That's his channel's purpose. Thats what he does. He wants to find more Karistus hybrids, more of his kind.

As you know, Federation archives are mostly lies, especially when it comes to Earth and space history. So if the Karistus says, earth used to be theirs, then it might be true.

Sol 13 was invaded by the regressives and a war took place between the Karistus & Positive side of the Federation and Negative side of the Federation - Orion Council etc.. and their Allies (Vlash and Maitre). The war led to the destruction of Taimat (pretty sure, it was intentionally blown up by the Orion Council) and Karistus lost earth to the invaders.
Most probably this is what happened. When it comes to Venus, the whole thing was fully under Federation control.  earthly cabals and the SSP are Federation puppets.

The only planet in Sol13 which is NOT under Federation control is Jupiter and it's moons and I think that, the deeper level of the Federation do wishes to invade Jupiter and do a Reset their just like they did with Venus. (also Alfrata) and they HAVE tried this. Swaruu did say that, the SSP did tried to mess with the Karistus but they failed.

Are not all Lyrians considered Karistus hybrids by them? Is it a more direct sense you are meaning? And no, my friend- I don’t dispute that the Karistus were caretakers of the Earth, long before the arrival of the Lyrian survivors.

I forget the exact name but is their not a dangerous world out near the Oort Cloud, Ohalu or something similar? I didn’t think the federation was involved with out there…. But of course they are!!

Anyway - Thanks for your detailed response, Hazza. Time for the Urmah to cut the puppet-strings so we can move forward is my vote. The real enemies are onboard Viera and in Antarctica…
I detest all forms of imposed authority - especially when it’s invisible.

_.haz.za._369 wrote:

I am posting this here with the permission of Sirona. She wanted me to post this here because of a lot of confusion between the information given by Dante Santori and Taygetans & Swaruunians.

Karistus ways to operate must be like this , they enter , infiltrate and do things necessary, they enter in the fire without burning because The Cause  have their operations but it doesn't mean they are dark angels is just they are operating in the battle field.

Yes! Be careful but do not not misinterpret, Karistus is not the Cabal but at the same time must infiltrate and do things for a reason that only the people in The Cause know but they are positive, operating in missions and Dante say that Karistus disclosure is not for everyone because only real Karistus will understand what happens, this is not a disclosure like the Taygetan disclosure, people must stop expecting something like that .

Stay away but not misinterpreted, Karistus is not the dark side even if it seems like that .

Please don't make division , Dante is confused about Taygetan and Swaruunian disclosure because the mediator make contact with him and he don't really know Gosia and he don't have time to see the videos to make he's own conclusions, he's just receiving misinformation about this disclosure so people must understand this with empathy , it's not a problem Karistus is a different race and have missions and operations in the low world and this is something that the regular public will not understand stay away don't judge because the surface is not the reality

Karistus is fighting in the battle field not like Taygetans, Karistus have their best warriors that can go to the dark to fight against the dark from there.

Don't try to know because you are not in the Cause you won't know details so people please stay away and support the Karistus like a positive race but don't try to know about the Cause operations because only members.

If someone want to be in the Cause and fight from there , then you must not have family, children, life, animals, you must disappear and understand that you will be and see the real darkness in from if you and you can die for sure , so be aware that the cause is not a game is a real war against the darkness on this planet , is go deeper and more beyond that .

Karistus disclosure is not informing about the Karistus race in a regular basis, it's about the Cause and only real Karistus will understand because we are connected in consciousness and we are activated with the videos so, is not for everyone.

I’m a little surprised, some petty egregors could be a challenge for the Karistus.
And remarking on “The Cause” - do such advanced beings seek help of starseeds for physical operations on Earth? That seems off to me so while I have respect for the Karistus, I reserve suspicions about recruitment into a band of militia, presumably to fight in DUMB Tunnels. That don’t make no sense.

I would like to know what they were doing at the time of the Tiamat wars. if Karistus consider Earth theirs?
Didn’t notice a big space-battle going on in their solar-system, brought here by strangers?
If the federation didn’t place the moon here, Earth would be an asteroid belt too.
Also - they let Venus be invaded too.

No, they can claim whatever they like - I refute that all Lyrians are karistus hybrids. It seems the Karistus fight for their own Cause - one that is less than clear from here.

This post is a real eye-opener…

Do not look genuine to me. Light beings do not need to fight demons in direct way. If they show where the demons are, demons cannot withstand such powerful presence and just run away and hide. Darkness cannot fight the light. Fighting is possible if the being is on their lower level of consciousness and not having its light qualities.

_.haz.za._369 wrote:

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We know that, almost all those "galactic stories" in the Federation archives are False.

So Earth might actually have been home of the Karistus 12,500 years ago!

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Then that would mean the Taygetan archives are false too. As far as I understand the Taygetans and every ET race has their own records independent from Federation archives. And the Taygetans had a colony here back then and have a lot of involvement with Earth so they will have a lot of records about their time here, so if the Karistus have been inhabitants of Earth that must have been a much longer time ago, more than 100,000 years ago or 200,000 years ago or more.

Interesting information about the Karistus Hazza, thanks for sharing

I've been following Dante's channels since Swaruu9 mentioned it to be mostly legit on Karistus information, but since he deletes his videos I have yet to get into the material you did to share what you did. But I do recall a recent video DS put up about the different layers of Jupiter and how they were technological mostly, so what you shared about the frequency barriers is not a surprise. Although the stuff about their suits and wings, plus why they glow with light, that's pretty cool; although it means they are intentionally keeping those as effects to maintain the human belief in angels appearing and being with those features. And this is a part about them that I don't find amusing, but then again Taygeta does not use those features so maybe I'm biased lol I'm more on the side of appearing to humans as more people and dropping the deity acts, since they are mostly serving to make humans feels lesser when comparing themselves to the 'angels.' Even if in a case by case the deity act helps, overall they are not helping in empowering humans and raising their confidence in themselves; in fact most humans consider themselves roaches on the planet (very sad in my view).

Anyway, I won't open a new topic on this, I just wanted to say the stuff you shared is interesting. I know I'm curious to learn more about the Karistus, as more people and not their fake acts, so if Mari is able to interview one of them; that could help us understand the Jovian side of what's going on with this planet and the mess of the UFOP in this star system. Since they supposedly are on Taygeta's side and share our views about Earth and how to help it, I don't see why there would be not even 1 Karistus who can offer their insight and perspective on this too. But my fingers are crossed for such an interview

_.haz.za._369 wrote:

Lyran wrote:

My bad Gosia, I was under the understanding that the Taygetans have to shift vibrational octave to be able to see the cities on Jupiter? Is this just the same as with the Earth?
I thought you had said they can appear in whatever form they choose to and I had likened them to the photos of winged light beings which have been captured sometimes.
I do some study now

In Jupiter, Karistus are hiding their planet with some type of Energy sheild. This was said by Aneeka. So this is probably why Swaruu had to  change her ships frequency in order to see their cities. The ship's frequency have to match with the frequency of those energy shields. Plus, it is also known that the Gaseous Layer we see of Jupiter is not real too. It is also artificial (source : DS).

It was said that, some times Karistus appear like "light" beings. Well, yes sort of. According to DS, they use artificial wings which is part of their gravity cancelling system of their combat suits. The suit surrounds them with some type of energy sheild for protection. This is why they seem to appear as "light" beings but it's just thier special combat suits. That's all.

Don’t do it guys - At least wait for Gosia to advise. Remember Karistus are non- physical beings- they don’t need to hire anybody. It’s a very sinister and nefarious agenda - I can feel it.

Its not even about wasting time, its putting yourself in danger more than a normal person can handle. This is bait/test and not genuine.

If they pose as much of danger to the Cabal as we learned, they would never post a genuine job offer on their platform to spy on them. That's akin to plotting against the enemy in their own camp and being naive enough to think they won't care and/or at least take note.

The Karistus channel is monitored to where the IP address is doxed for anyone who visits the channel, so its a trip wire on a basic level.

_.haz.za._369 wrote:

Uncharted Universe wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTjtn11K-Y

I'm wondering if is trustable or not, but i remember that Swaruu said that it is.  One thing is for sure, we live in interesting times.

Please, don't sign up for this. Don't waste your time and money.

A couple of questions that caught my eye from the Spanish audience were:

" Pablo Diaz: What is the most distant place from Taygeta that Taygetans have explored in space so far?

Mari Swaruu: The center of the Milky Way. The problem is that Taygeta is characterized as an explorer race that has lost countless ships and their crews when going to investigate. "

&

" J M: Does the Federation have power in other galaxies outside the Milky Way?

Mari Swaruu: Supposedly not, but I don't know what to think anymore. I have looked for the answer to that question, but it is not clear. "

Given that the Taygetans are an explorer race, with ether based travel capabilities it's surprising so me that the furtherest they have gone is only to the centre of this galaxy. And that the Federation isn't known to operate in other galaxies as well? I know she is not sure on this latter point but it's hinting that there is some limitation in travelling between galaxies. I just wonder, has that topic ever been covered in this contact? Does anyone know what limits the Federation species to this galaxy?

Cyndrieldreams wrote:

The Federation sounds like they are infiltrated by regressive's. Obvious.
I'd like to know why only the Taygetans/Swarunians and the Urmah's are the only ones that know this?

I have to wonder if the Federation above, like the cabal below, does some sort of black magic to blind it's members into never seeing the truth.

I have to wonder if the attacks on Taygeta, the clones of Aneeka, etc. were from the Earth cabal or the Federation.

_.haz.za._369, sorry but on some points what you say do not make sense to me. You contradict to what you say and I am not going to bother about that. It is your problems of understanding, not mine. I stand for what I said and not going to let anyone to correct me in this case. You have your opinion, I have mine. Period.

Karistus world is another density-dimension, a range of frequencies not visible from 3D, not even from 5D without having the technology to detect high dimensional energies. From 3D is seen as gaseous world impossible in our standards for living but in 6D is perfectly suitable world for living. Same goes with Venus and how is seen from the 3D filter as raging inferno, but in 5D reality is tropical paradise planet.