Yes, this is one of the sticking points in the entire discussions about what we eat. I have generally found myself in agreement with you on the topic. It's not a case of being a secret Andromedan who believes in karma. Refraining from eating animals is not more about karma than is not shooting people at the train station, or having sex with the neighbour's wife when he's at work. It's about a feeling - more than that, a 'knowing' - that the action is wrong. It goes against ones connection with the higher, or more expanded, aspects to ones being - ultimately Source, we could say. And that's it. Now, whether different actions are 'wrong' for different people is another question.....!

Gosia, surely Yazhi and Athena are not actually carnivorous? They do eat plants too. In which case they are omnivores, aren't they?

I don't pretend to understand too well this world of markets etc (what a strange expression that 'I don't pretend...' one is!). But I did read about Venezuela, and it does appear to be a harbinger of the future. And even I can see that here in the UK the misgovernment continues to dish out money - this time so that half the population doesn't freeze to death this winter - that it hasn't got. As it did with furlough payments a couple of years ago. The unspoken attitude seems to be 'Well, we haven't got any money, we haven't for a long time. So we might as well give some more (non-existent) money away'.

The parallels with last-gasp Rome are not only economic, but social, cultural, psychological and the rest. And I find interesting your assertion that they won't get their bloody reset. My instinct is that you are correct, and in the longer run that is indeed good news...

Manifest Girl, I'm sorry if I appear to have been inconsistent. That was not my intention. For the record, I have very much appreciated (no, that word 'appreciated' sounds a bit distant....) - I have enjoyed your contributions, and I hope you aren't put off by this episode. I think you have indeed discovered a bunch of exceptional folk on the forum here, but we all mess up a bit sometimes. And 'all' includes me.

Personally, I think people need to be very careful before calling anyone out as a troll or shill or controlled opposition, whatever. We should at least ask a few questions or do a bit of detective work beforehand. It's very easy to do, when what's really happening is that we just don't agree, or don't like what they say, or don't like the shirt they're wearing. Just about anybody with anything worth saying has been called a shill or controlled opposition at some time. In your case, Scott stated emphatically who you are, and I left it at that.   

On the positive side, he was mistaken, but Bucegi was looking to protect the integrity of this place.

Thank you, Edith! I salute you too.

Hey man! That was a successful leg pull. Congratulations!!

Ha Ha, don't worry. I've been on the forum nearly every day for the past month, but I'm totally lost too! And not just regarding this thread, either..... heh heh.

Thank you, Crystal Dragon, for your heart-warming and inspirational post. It has been a great tonic for me today. In terms of your overall approach, you can count me in!

'Souls come to Earth for the experience.' 'Earth is needed as a place of intense suffering for the wholeness of the Universe'. We are very familiar with this kind of thinking. Today I would like to call it out as nonsense, and justificatory bullshit.

If you need suffering as part of learning, there is plenty on planet Earth in a more 'normal' state, without the extra layer of relentless beating that humanity takes at the hands of the cabal and its associates. Illness, growing old, dying; the same for loved ones. Accidents, the pain of getting things wrong and inadvertently hurting others. Let-downs, betrayals, your lover going off with the neighbour. There is more than enough suffering to learn from without the extra thick treacley layer of convid, fake wars, manufactured economic and food crises blah blah blah, which seem to dominate on the collective level at present.

Ones attitude here has deep consequences. In the 'Come to Earth for the experience' scenario, what occurs here is taken as 'natural', 'normal'. It's kind-of OK. I do not see these excesses as natural or normal at all. They are aberrant, artificial constructs imposed on (an already artificial) matrix.

As described by John Lamb Lash, the Gnostics were onto the same phenomena long ago. They talked about the archons (roughly equivalent to what we sometimes term AI) as impostors on the scene. They are not part of the natural order of things, but are negative parasitical inserts. They are humanity's enemy.

Gnostic metaphysics I find tricky to understand. But significantly they speak of a 'two-source duality' in the Universe. 'Good' and 'evil' do not come from the same source, they say. Humans commit 'error', but it morphs into something else, which we call 'evil', as a consequence of another influence, that of inorganic hive mind archons. 'Good' and 'error' emanate from God, as the Gnostics term it. But 'evil' is the result of something else, related to how Gaia/Sophia fell from the heavenly aeons. For their pains, the Gnostics were hunted down to extinction by various early Christian groups, for whom, of course, good and evil both come from God.

So the more psychopathic qualities on Earth are aberrations. And I agree with you, that personal detachment from them is the way to go.

Microvirus6, greetings. I am from the UK, not American. However, what you have written will apply equally to pretty much any western country. Just change the names of the bit players, and you'll have Britain or France or Canada or Germany, wherever.

And here's a true story. A few years ago a rather elderly couple lived just around the corner. My wife and I would sometimes see the man working in the garden as we went for a walk. His wife was especially frail, and really looked as if she wouldn't be around for very much longer.

One day we walked by and an ambulance was parked outside. We looked at each other with a knowing glance. It didn't seem good. Just a few weeks later we passed by again (we spend a lot of time walking....) and a 'for sale' had been erected outside their house. Our suspicions had been confirmed. The only question was: he or she? Or maybe both.

No sign of life was detected in this house around the corner. Some more people moved into the house. One day some time later we were surprised to be walking (again....) in another part of town and saw the old man, who was probably dead, working in another garden. "We are both fine" he told me. "We just moved into this new flat next to my son. He can keep an eye on us more easily like that."

So this is my tale of miraculous resurrection. Its relevance to the 'Where are the Taygetans?' question is obvious. Minds (or at least mine) will run riot in an information vacuum. We want to know, and we want to know now. Otherwise insecurity looms. 'How can I understand things, how can I be in control, when I don't know!' This is the pathetic cry of spiritual ignorance that tries to claim its place. I don't think we should indulge it at all.... It goes completely counter to living in the singularity, which seems to require courage, and needs us to let go of all hopes, fears, and assumptions about the future.

As for our Taygetan and Swaruunian friends, personally I don't have a clue. I will take seriously anything that Gosia or Robert may have to say about it, since they are in a far better position to venture what is possible or likely. Otherwise, I'll just get on with life and see what happens....

I trust you will be reporting Ms Lagarde to multiple agencies who deal with these things!!! The least they can do is chuck her off all silicon valley social media sites. Isn't that what happens to folk who utter such scandalous, hurtful, and deeply offensive stuff??

'When the fakedemic started, they already had us all connected to the borg. This was done through chemtrails and other toxicities.' Do you actually know this, Genoveva? I don't know - it may be so, it may not. But this is a big statement to make like that, since it impacts.... everything. We are, of course, all affected by chemtrails, by this, that and the other. But the precise results of much of this.......???

So, after video two we had video three. That's how it works in 3D at least....

I don't find some of this info easy to understand at all. Hadrians Wall and the Renaissance.... My consolation is that Yazhi says that from the perspective of human perception on planet Earth, it can't readily be understood.

Whatever my limitations at this moment, it seems that the fruits of the discussion are correct: Athena and Warrior Bishop are both right! One from a more linear perspective, the other from a more 'plastic' sense of time.

The loosening of the vice-like grip of linearity seems to happen more in humans who raise their levels of consciousness through the increased awareness/experience of synchronicity. They seem like two threads running parallel in my life nowadays. Yes, two follows one, tomorrow will most likely follow today etc. But events taking place synchronistically are not an occasional occurrence any longer. They shape much of what is going on daily. Linearity: a line of dominoes falling one after the other. Synchronicity: a kaleidoscope.

As for the added (or not) 300 years, my best bet at investigating it lies in the history of western art. Had you met me 30 years ago, you would have found me immersed in this, especially Italian art, esp Renaissance art. I was Buddhist, and even gave illustrated talks to Buddhists about this art and its meaning for spiritual life. Must have bored them stiff! Anyhow, I could always look back at the medieval and pre-medieval art, and see if anything 'interesting' turns up.

Bigfeet, if you'll exsqueeze me, you did a good job in getting to grips with the topic in your posts, thank you!

Anyone interested in this topic - if you go to the beginning of this thread, about 18 months ago, you will find links to various videos on the subject of sex and Taygetans. Plus a forum discussion that has its humorous moments....