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#1 Re: English Forum » Za'El's "The Rulemakers Advantage - Does"Good " always win? » 2023-08-19 07:55:52

Given that...why do they still play by the "federation"'s rules? Why tell Earth humans not to play by the cabal's rules at any cost when they fear their supposed federation? So Za'El is "good cop" now, idealist, anti-fed game activist, while the others justify the Earth situation and grovel before bureaucratic might, using stupid sophistry to justify the "game"?

If they are even real, this guy should be in charge. Maybe his time will eventually come in this little space opera to lose his idealism like the others and tow the party line, and then maybe a new character will be introduced to repeat the process. Perhaps I've said "too much" again, but I'm way past giving a fuck.

#2 Re: English Forum » Pfizer Factory Tornado - What Really Happened? Athena Swaruu Informs » 2023-08-17 06:13:14

Brahman wrote:
Horton HaW wrote:
Brahman wrote:

There are a lot of ETs in human bodies on Earth and they die every day.
Is this federation following the prime directive at all? Why are they helping the cabal and regressives? Is this allowed according to the directive? Why can they support the cabal and have to hinder the starseeds? Can't the cabal do everything themselves like the starseeds? Finally why being so "moral" do they allow aliens to live on such a dangerous place as Earth in human form subjected to all kinds of trials and death? Why do the races in the federation allow such genocide? Why doesn't anyone ask them there?

The focus on "contrast" and the belief in this to advance seems to be strong. It seems to over-shadow all else. Reminds me of the scientist watching the petri dish. The difference in emotions seems to be a big gap.

It is this divide that seems to be an issue. How far can one go to support a group of self-destructive psychopaths hell bent on turning earth into a giant plastic ornament, all the while thinking about "immortality"?

On one hand they help crank up the volume and on the other they seek to control and contain it. Earth is Federation, but is it being treated as such?

I wept listening to Mari's video on extractions part 3.

The empirical mind cannot grasp spirituality. Those who Mari said are in the federation and are very spiritual but non-emotional, I am less and less concerned about that anymore. Maybe we should be like them and be both spiritual and unemotional to the matrix. Why worry about some illusion? But everyone knows what they need.

Rejection of emotion is unintegration. It is unlove, it is unintelligence. Without emotion=without "why". Without purpose. A stupid machine grinding its gears...for what? Emotional intelligence is another side of intelligence. Without it, beings tend to be stupid and regressive, and their "advancement" tends to be reduced to retarded mechanistic sophistry. Without emotion, there is nothing but the "empirical", be it "physical" empiricism and/or "spiritual" empiricism.

#3 Re: English Forum » Exposition of narcissism » 2023-08-17 06:04:33

Seeing the physical pleasures of the world as useless and/or evil is yet another gateway to "hell". Liberation comes from integration. Integrating the ability to appreciate such pleasures and find the goodness of source within them without becoming mindlessly addicted to them at the expense of spirituality, ideals, and principles is key. Likewise, ability to be spiritual and value higher principles without "discarding" that which egotistical gurus claim is "lower" and appreciate simple pleasures is also key. This is why hedonists and ascetics are both wrong. They are not integrated. They are not whole, because they dismiss one thing as garbage in favor of the other in a ruthless manner. Both are on their narcissistic high horses.

#4 Re: English Forum » Orion Wars » 2023-08-10 13:10:51

eugene-bright wrote:
Crystal Dragon wrote:

Subservience.

Saturn (but not the fallen puppet Cabal) is the Council of Nine (9 symbolizes Black Hole, transcendence and completion). Entities Beyond the Boundary have complete information of this world. They rightly see it as living in Their/Source mind.
Don't try to appropriate human mentality here.

I'm not "appropriating" anything. As a starseed with an advanced capacity for philosophical thought, I'm using that combined with my direct perspective of incarnate life on Earth to form an informed opinion.

Any organization who would impose and enforce extreme suffering for the purposes of soul expansion is more than playing with fire, and they aren't coming from a place of real advancement or emotional intelligence. Adversity is a normal part of life, and left alone, it will tend to balance out properly and create fulfillment and growth. Manufacturing/tweaking/dialing up such adversity to extreme levels is folly at best, malice at worst.

Yes, the adversity may have an effect of humbling some people and getting them to a place where they can change for the better...then maybe it continues to break them until they fall back into darkness, or darkness of a different kind. Hopelessness and despair instead of arrogance and selfishness. For others, it will cause them to double down on selfishness and hate, because that's the only major frame of reference they have.

Others yet will be "humbled" into seeking ascetic spiritual distortions that are non-emotional and mechanistic in nature. A strange type of "love" without passion or empathy.

Tormenting people into a desired mental/emotional configuration is nothing more than trauma-based mind control. Extreme behaviorism. No beings practicing that are advanced, even if they believe their ends justify the means.

#5 Re: English Forum » Orion Wars » 2023-08-09 22:03:56

"Blue eyes"=Black League. Fremen. Rebels. Empire/Saturn is the same energy in my opinion. The intent isn't to develop true compassion, but martyrdom. Subservience.

#6 Re: English Forum » MariSwa & Kassia: Extractions and their problems, Part 4, » 2023-07-28 03:03:47

CHARCOtranquilo wrote:

Your comment shows honesty, and that honours you, as you acknowledge where you are and not where others claim to be when they are NOT there; In them, it's just a cacophonic repetition of Yazhinian words borrowed in their minds from that which they have not yet achieved. A desire fueled by sterile logic that cannot bear fruit because words and concepts, if not planted in the fertile soil of experience and watered and fertilised with deep Understanding, which is freed from all logic, will become nothing but crutches for an invalid who wishes to run when all they can do is stumble with them at every step they take. Logic and the concepts that feed it may be a useful tool for someone who needs crutches because their mind is held hostage by their own mind, but logic will be a burden for someone who can already run and has light feet, and a heavy ballast for someone who has wings and can fly.

"Sterile logic". In some ways, even more dangerous than unbalanced, surface-level emotionality. The latter can justify all kinds of nasty error, but the former can justify real evil.

#7 Re: English Forum » MariSwa: Extractions and their problems. Part 3 » 2023-07-23 00:36:44

There are many negative paradigms one may encounter on their spiritual path, where two unhealthy extremes are presented and are found to be two sides of the same coin. Some of the obvious ones are left-wing and right-wing political ideologies, religiosity and atheism, and collectivist vs individualist philosophies. A bit deeper is the idea of service to self vs service to others, the ideas of predation and martyrdom. A predator makes others lose so they can win. A martyr makes themselves lose so others can win. The idea that someone has to lose for another person to win is called zero-sum thinking, and that is the coin in that case.

The paradigm that seems to "go over many people's heads" is hedonism vs asceticism. Hedonists are self-centered and solipsistic. They pursue shallow things, such as material wealth, gluttony with drugs and food, and casual sex that lacks in depth of emotional connection. Such pursuits don't lead to deep and genuine fulfillment. Ascetics are also self-centered and solipsistic. They doggedly pursue non-attachment and some idea of an ultimate, objective spiritual truth at the expense of interpersonal connection, emotionality, beauty, and joy. Such pursuits also fail to lead to deep and genuine fulfillment, though on the surface there can appear to be the notion that they are more valuable than hedonistic pursuits. The coin is that of being shallow and mechanistic and discarding emotionality, thus discarding depth and wholeness. Ascetic philosophies seem to have a huge depth that supposedly bores with pinpoint precision towards source, yet source is all things. Turn that ultra narrow line of focus horizontally and picture it as a stream of water. Shallow.

#8 Re: English Forum » MariSwa: Extractions and their problems. Part 3 » 2023-07-23 00:11:30

CHARCOtranquilo wrote:

This is the best and most important sentence of ALL disclosure "We don't need to be extracted to be better versions of ourselves". It's clear that we can't run away from ourselves: the shit you haven't processed, will still be shit out there in 5D or any "D". Because following the path of cowards has its price; those who pretend to solve their failed lives using comfortable shortcuts to avoid the responsibility of assuming that there is a job to be done and that no "alien" or "terrestrial" can or will do it for you or anyone else.

The prison you have locked YOURSELF in, is not here on earth or "out there. NO. The prison in which you have voluntarily locked yourself up is IN YOUR MIND. That imaginary prison that you have so zealously concocted and that you feed and give reality every day; every time you put opium in the desire to be extracted by some supposed ET's, or every time you put the opium of hope in a new "love" that will give you that recognition and valuation that you think you need to feel special, unique.

This feeling of bastard specialism that is born from the darkest and darkest bowels of the most insidious and perverse selfishness, because it is disguised as good feelings and good intentions,  All these psychological buffers are instruments of procrastination that tighten the chains of your mental dungeon and disable you and drain your will to assume in a mature and intelligent way, that in reality nobody can break the chains of your mind except you.

Few are those who have the true courage and bravery to go into that desert of absolute loneliness where you will find the only faithful traveling companion that can keep you company: YOU.  And until you assume that vast desert of yourself in the most absolute company of your solitude, the chains of the mind that you now believe limit you, will not be able to transform their creaking into celestial music if you do not understand that you yourself forged them and the darkest of the prisons cannot be transformed into a shining beacon that illuminates the exit door if you do not realize that its lintel is supported on your own shoulders. 

Until when are you willing to postpone your freedom at the cost of easy shortcuts, infantile romantic sentimentalisms and narcissistic hedonisms?....

You make some points I agree with, and some I don't. I agree with your point about "bastard specialism". It's good for people to believe in their own value, that they are each a unique, valued part of the universal whole. What is not good is the narcissism and elitism that permeates "starseed culture". People want to feel like they are "chosen" ones while others are not. The "blessed and the damned" theme of Abrahamic religions repackaged for those who consider themselves smarter than that. They even go as far as to speculate that people they see as not on their level of perceived "spirituality" don't have souls.

What I do not agree with is your devaluation of emotionality and romantic love. Yes, some people look for that sort of love for "recognition" and "valuation", and that isn't very healthy. Others have a more innocent approach and seek the giving and receiving of such love at face value, for the unique experience and the depth of interconnectedness with one other person on a level of two individuals which radiates outward to creation. I do not see that as "infantile".

What I personally see as "infantile" is the devaluation of such sentiments in a race for "spiritual supremacy". Spirituality devoid of emotion is not spirituality. There is no race to anywhere, only an endless journey. Negative, antisocial, narcissistic beings throw away sentimentality and emotionality in their pursuits of material supremacy, domination, and self-gratification. It disturbs me to see how some philosophies seem to call for the same mechanistic ruthlessness in the pursuit of spiritual power.

#9 Re: English Forum » Is the Federation full of pedo's? » 2023-07-17 10:47:05

We aren't going to win as long as we justify the evil. So many "awakened", so many "starseeds"...why are they watchdogs of the matrix? Why are they jail wardens of humanity? Why do they put their energy towards justifying the matrix system as it currently is?

#10 Re: English Forum » Is the Federation full of pedo's? » 2023-07-17 09:12:36

Brahman wrote:

So the federation is the same to us in the matrix.

Except: with greater power and awareness comes greater responsibility for one's actions. Sophistry is not the same as sanity. Such beings may have grown in their "logical" computing power, much as machines can do with greater technology, but may not have grown in emotional intelligence, which is central to true spirituality. They may have even grown in "logical computing power" while remaining in a state of emotional intelligence below that of the average human...which many would say is nothing to "write home about".

#11 Re: English Forum » Is the Federation full of pedo's? » 2023-07-17 08:49:25

Brahman wrote:

If pedophilia only exists in this matrix then no wonder the ETs can't wait to slide into this "spiritual" mess. Lol
Is that why GF want to watch this pervert game of cabal church pedos?


The most dangerous pedophiles tend to not even be focused so much on the sexual aspect, but the power aspect. Many low-level, slightly sociopathic, messed up humans find themselves attracted to children, whether it be for aesthetic or other such reasons, or the supposed ease of trickery and entrapment of someone young and naive. Many even know they are wrong and regret their ways. From what I gather, most of the hardest of the hardcore pedos are focused less on sexuality, and more on dominance. Their biggest pleasure is in crushing the innocence that comes with childhood. They hate what children are and what they represent on a deep level.

That is the goal of many anti-emotional beings. To subjugate, twist, and/or wipe out those pesky childlike ideals that are such a thorn in their side.

#12 Re: English Forum » Is the Federation full of pedo's? » 2023-07-17 08:30:31

Lol. Healthy independent thinking. Sub-par presentation, thus the quickness with the ol' pitchfork. I wonder if anyone could offer a legitimate challenge to what I said. I'm basically just that Sesame Street character Oscar the grouch, though. don't mind me. Just popping up from my trash now and then to give my two cents.

#13 Re: English Forum » Is the Federation full of pedo's? » 2023-07-17 08:06:29

Non-emotional beings who abide by morally relativistic principles would have a lot in common with pedophiles in that they do not see childlike wonder and innocence as sacred. Whoever needs to suffer for their goals, so be it. That's how they think. Even if they wouldn't be sexually attracted to children, they wouldn't give a fuck about their feelings and wellbeing, so the supposed federation as described by the Taygetan disclosure does have that much in common with pedophiles.

#14 Re: English Forum » MariSwa: False Alien Invasion, Another Warning, mostly for Star Seeds. » 2023-07-15 01:18:28

naringl wrote:
Tecumseh wrote:

[...] Denying technology to very good hearted truth seeker's is bad.
[...]

so you would expect to receive some kind of device? or something other sort of "instrument" that will do what for you?

the controllers are your own consciousness/awareness. don't rely on technology to get lift up

These are the kind of mind-games psychopaths employ. They want their victims to feel responsible for their twisted actions, as if they brought that on themselves. We are all one, yet every soul has THEIR OWN consciousness/awareness. Bad people who do bad things are NOT simply the creation/projection of their victims, as if they are some dream characters. They are individuals who are responsible for their own choices and actions. The cabal is not simply a projection of their victims, any more than a man who rapes a 4 year old girl is simply a projection created by that child. That rapist is an individual with their own self-responsibility and choices. The cabal, and this supposed federation if it exists as purported by the Taygetan disclosure, are RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. They cannot pass the buck onto their victims...or maybe they can, in some cases, if people are stupid enough to fall for self-blame and Stockholm syndrome created by insidious, twisted "spiritual" SOPHISTRY mindfuck garbage.

#15 Re: English Forum » MariSwa: False Alien Invasion, Another Warning, mostly for Star Seeds. » 2023-07-13 22:34:50

The situation on Earth continuing as it is can be seen as absurd, from a rational and emotionally intelligent perspective. The continuation of the status quo is a mistake that will have grave consequences for many, many people and the future of humanity. The current "game", played by the current "rules", is folly at best, malice at worst.

That is what I base my observations on. For me, that is the "elephant in the room", so to speak. As long as the cabal maintains power over humanity, as long as truth about ET life is suppressed and kept secret, I don't have much of a reason to believe that any ETs currently involved with Earth want the best for humanity.

While it's possible I may have had positive astral or physical contact experiences I can't remember as a child, the hard to explain experiences I've had in adulthood with lights in the sky, dreams, possible telepathy, and shadow entities are by my observations negative interference. I've seen that side of things, but have yet to see the other.

#16 Re: English Forum » MariSwa: False Alien Invasion, Another Warning, mostly for Star Seeds. » 2023-07-13 06:08:15

Ariya wrote:

I really appreciate Mari's report and sharing Nai'Shara's thoughts. Thank you ❤️

It's great to receive forewarning of possible futures.
Here's a good article attempting to justify the anti-semetic, far right, white supremacy foundations of starseed culture ...
Dark Historical Roots of Starseeds

And the daily mail warning us being a starseed is a mental disorder ...
Do YOU identify as an alien?

The cabal attacks lacks imagination..! And I just don't see why they think they can win this. Regardless of the narrative, the more our attention is brought to extraterrestrial existence, the more it becomes embedded into our collective consciousness, and therefore the more likely it is to manifest in our reality...

I am not subscribed to medium, so I did not read the entire article. What I will say is that there is some truth that idea. On one hand, establishment forces can use such information to paint "starseeds" in a bad light, automatically linking them to white supremacy and fascism. On the other hand, the same establishment inserted those very things into "starseed culture". They play both "left" and right". Before being exposed to any outside information, from a young age, I felt that I'd experienced life outside of Earth. With a belief in incarnation and life on other planets, it's simply logical. "Starseed culture", though, is something very engineered. I believe that people like Trump and Putin are part of the cabal system no matter how much disinformation I'm exposed to that claims them to be otherwise. There is an Aryan centered mythos inherent to a lot under the umbrella of "starseed culture", along with a recent push to insert far-right ideologies into spiritual communities. That much is obvious. It both potentially leads seekers towards authoritarian ideologies and gives the establishment ammunition to discredit them.

I have yet to encounter convincing proof that ANY purported ET race people claim has been in contact with humanity, real or fake, is here for the good of humanity and is not part of the cabal agenda. Perhaps I've said "too much"? I can hear the pitchforks rattling. The very idea that Earth is someone's "game", "school", "bootcamp", or whatever is inherently authoritarian, whether forces "out there" actually intend that scenario or not. Claiming that those forces are our "higher selves" doesn't change that.

The Nazi party was a puppet organization for one or more occult secret societies. Such societies would have known the truth about incarnation and ET life long before the idea of "starseeds" became a big thing among the general public. Logically, they would get out "ahead of the game" and try to steer people seeking such truths.

#17 Re: French Forum » La "trahison" de la fédération » 2023-04-06 20:16:02

J’ai traduit ma déclaration en français.

Ceux qui contemplent l’éternité se rendent compte que chaque instant est sacré. Ceux qui considéreraient nos vies humaines et notre bonheur comme sacrifiables pour une course vers nulle part ne sont pas avancés. Ce sont des pervers sans émotion.

#18 Re: English Forum » Are Plejarans the same as Pleiadians. » 2023-03-25 04:08:20

Supposedly he met with Taygetans. They could simply go to his house and visit him physically. They even let him play with one of their weapons, all back when the general population was even less awake, when less starseeds knew who they are, and less people were interested in ET contact. Now, they can't even communicate in video or bring their own types of communication devices or weapons to the surface at all. Logic.

#19 Re: English Forum » How the Galactic Federation views Earth, part 4, Restrictions. » 2023-03-25 03:56:27

Jules77 wrote:

If the GF did not allow those “evil” races to roam Earth they wouldn’t have the opportunity to play in the 3D sandbox.  And it could be assumed that those they are abducting are their own starseeds and the atrocities being committed were desired experiences.  In any event there are many obstacles that will need to be overcome and is a part of the challenge.  And I think there is good reason to believe that although the GF have their own rules of interpretation there are ways around them. For example, they must use technology that can be found on Earth and the cabal has technology that they use among themselves.  So it is found on Earth.  That is how you beat the game.

And I am still of the opinion this is a transition not just for Earth but for the GF as well.  It is an organization suffering from the worst kind of layering that has woken many people up (just like humans on Earth are waking up to their own matrix). 

Also, it is not clear to me why any race would come to Earth for food if it is all poisoned. Where are they sourcing clean food from? I thought supply ships brought that to them periodically.

Apparently, their fighter class ships have the capacity to carry a car or truck and can make a trip to their star system in 30 minutes. I don't see how supplying 30 something occupants of a star ship with fresh food from home would be difficult and require sourcing food from Earth. They also went into how graphene is in pretty much everything on Earth, and how Earth's vegetables are not very diverse or nutritious. Maybe they would simply say that they can remove graphene from fruits and vegetables and that somehow their bodies can process Earth vegetables better than Earth human bodies. Whatever.

#21 Re: English Forum » Mari: Galactic Federation. » 2023-03-22 22:33:10

mitkobs wrote:

It is safe to say from simple ordinary POV of a human living down in this mess of a reality that Federation is permissive of the anti human actions that Satanists cabal is performing over the free will of the people. If someone who have all the power to do what is right and do not do it is the same of doing what is wrong. Letting the cabal crushing global population to the point of destroying their souls is the most severe crime in my universal book of crimes. And Federation is complicit if they do not do something. Because they can do many things. They have all the intelligence and all the power to stop a bunch of perverted crazed satanists and have to do it soon. I am sure that the starseeds and good people did not incarnate here to be run over by the perveted satanists and after this experience with whatever consequences that will occur we will not let this slide anymore. Things will get tough for everyone who was complicit with the satanists.

Your most recent few posts concerning the supposed federation issues are spot on. Thank you for sharing from a sane and thoughtful perspective.

#22 Re: English Forum » Mari: Galactic Federation. » 2023-03-22 22:26:42

crystallinemister wrote:
Crystal Dragon wrote:

Such anti-social ramblings. Anyone with actual heart-centered ideals must just be whining by pointing out things that are wrong and refusing to conform to mechanistic, disciplinarian garbage, according to that train of thought. You see whining when people question things that are unjust, and the more idealistic and heart-centered people see anti-social dribble, hot air, and disciplinarian egocentrism "look at me I'm tough and mature" when they read your little "stop whining and accept it" speeches. It has the air of a machine noisily grinding its gears without any emotional intelligence. To each their own, I suppose.

Are you kidding with this?? I know you weren't even talking to me but seriously, what do you expect from us when you just come out of nowhere acting all wounded when Scott Summers wasn't even talking about you. Seriously, I know you must be a teenager, you just have to be, I can't see you possibly being an adult, but SERIOUSLY: GROW UP.

You really have me figured out. I must have just sprouted my first pube last week because I don't fit your (and Earth society's) quota of cynicism and emotional detachment necessary to be considered an "adult". And how are those concepts of "maturity" working out for humanity? Take a look around and see. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back for your "maturity".

#23 Re: English Forum » Mari: Galactic Federation. » 2023-03-22 04:50:15

Scott Summers wrote:
Crystal Dragon wrote:

Such anti-social ramblings. Anyone with actual heart-centered ideals must just be whining by pointing out things that are wrong and refusing to conform to mechanistic, disciplinarian garbage, according to that train of thought. You see whining when people question things that are unjust, and the more idealistic and heart-centered people see anti-social dribble, hot air, and disciplinarian egocentrism "look at me I'm tough and mature" when they read your little "stop whining and accept it" speeches. It has the air of a machine noisily grinding its gears without any emotional intelligence. To each their own, I suppose.

Lol, did I touch a nerve or what? big_smile

It wasn’t directed at anyone in particular, so if you choose to be triggered by it, that’s your choice.

Btw, the Forum allows for different views to be shared. And all members decide for themselves.

Also, didn’t you say before that this Disclosure doesn’t do much for you? That you gain more from other sources? So why are you still getting triggered by this?

Are you happy with your progress?

That's at least true that it's probably not very productive for me to care what people say on this forum anymore. I suppose sometimes I find myself unduly concerned with the mentalities of others who consider themselves "awake", "starseeds", etc., with or without the context of a particular "disclosure". I often find myself disappointed at the lack of emotional intelligence that seems to be rampant among such communities, and feel inclined to offer an alternative opinion. Maybe that's not really worth it.

#24 Re: English Forum » Mari: Galactic Federation. » 2023-03-22 04:35:36

When people throw away heart-centered ideals and accept injustices on one hand, yet double down on the idea of "fighting" on the other, what are they actually fighting for? Bragging rights to say "look at me I'm tough"? I don't understand the value in such a mentality. I really don't.

#25 Re: English Forum » Mari: Galactic Federation. » 2023-03-22 04:26:55

Scott Summers wrote:

Thank you, Mari, for taking the trouble to translate the relevant sections of the Prime Directive.

To the best of my knowledge, NO ONE ELSE has done this before.

It’s kinda funny how everyone seems to argue about the Prime Directive but no one has actually read it... until now.

This is also critical because we can now ‘separate the men from the boys’ (so to speak).

Life is not about “what is fair”, especially on Earth.

You cannot whine and demand for fairness and at the same time claim to be Source.

Those who do, are deceiving themselves.

To be clear, nothing wrong with deceiving yourself if that’s what you want. The harsh truth is that the rest of the world doesn’t care. Why is that? Because those who are positive are busy making the best of the situation and moving on with their lives.

On one side, we have the soldiers that will continue to complete their journey they all agreed to before incarnating.

On the other side, we have the complainers (or eternal victims), whose reward shall be more of the same suffering they are complaining about.

This is simply Universal Law.

At this point, unfortunately, there is no middle ground.

Such anti-social ramblings. Anyone with actual heart-centered ideals must just be whining by pointing out things that are wrong and refusing to conform to mechanistic, disciplinarian garbage, according to that train of thought. You see whining when people question things that are unjust, and the more idealistic and heart-centered people see anti-social dribble, hot air, and disciplinarian egocentrism "look at me I'm tough and mature" when they read your little "stop whining and accept it" speeches. It has the air of a machine noisily grinding its gears without any emotional intelligence. To each their own, I suppose.

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